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Fiscal Conservatives Barred from Supercommittee (TeaParty not welcome)
Weekly Standard ^ | 8/2/2011 | Stephen Hayes

Posted on 08/02/2011 11:23:45 AM PDT by GreaterSwiss

The debt ceiling deal will pass the Senate early this afternoon. No suspense there. But the vote will be worth watching for another reason: Three Republican Senate sources tell TWS that senators who vote against the deal will be ineligible to serve on the so-called “supercommittee” for deficit reduction that the legislation creates.

While there’s certain logic to such a policy, it could be self-defeating. Excluding those who vote against the debt deal will ensure that some of the most fiscally conservative members of the Senate Republican caucus, including most of its freshmen, will be reading about the committee’s activities in the newspaper rather than guiding its decisions. Among those who have already declared their opposition to the deal: libertarian-leaning senators Mike Lee and Rand Paul; Jim DeMint, the aggressive fiscal hawk from South Carolina; conservative reformers Ron Johnson from Wisconsin and Pat Toomey from Pennsylvania; the ranking member on the Senate Budget Committee, Jeff Sessions; and Florida’s Marco Rubio, already one of the highest-profile conservatives in Congress.

(Excerpt) Read more at weeklystandard.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 112th; debtceiling; liberalfascism; rinofascism; snub; tyranny
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To: GreaterSwiss
How's this for irony; A law needs to be submitted excluding lobbyists from access to the unconstitutional super committee.
61 posted on 08/02/2011 12:36:36 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: GreaterSwiss

BS. Here’s the bill: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s365eah/pdf/BILLS-112s365eah.pdf

SHOW US WHERE THE ALLEGED BAN IS ENACTED.

Sheesh, there’s a lot of hysterical delusions floating around this thing. It’s bad enough without people making stuff up.


62 posted on 08/02/2011 12:37:03 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Psalm 144

Continental Association (1774)
First Continental Congress

....To obtain redress of these Grievances, which threaten destruction to the Lives, Liberty, and Property of his Majesty’s subjects in North America, we are of opinion that a Non-Importation, Non-Consumption, and Non-Exportation Agreement, faithfully adhered to, will prove the most speedy, effectual, and peaceable measure; and, therefore, we do, for ourselves, and the inhabitants of the several Colonies whom we represent, firmly agree and associate, under the sacred ties of Virtue, Honour, and Love of our Country, as follows:

1. That from and after the first day of December next, we will not import into British America, from Great Britain or Ireland, any Goods, Wares, or Merchandises whatsoever, or from any other place, any such Goods, Wares, or Merchandises as shall have been exported from Great Britain or Ireland; nor will we, after that day, import any East India Tea from any part of the World; nor any Molasses, Syrups, Paneles, Coffee, or Pimento, from the British Plantations or from Dominica; nor Wines from Madeira, or the Western Islands; nor Foreign Indigo.

2. That we will neither import nor purchase any Slave imported after the first day of December next; after which time we will wholly discontinue the Slave Trade, and will neither be concerned in it ourselves, nor will we hire our vessels, nor sell our Commodities or Manufactures to those who are concerned in it.

3. As a Non-Consumption Agreement, strictly adhered to, will be an effectual security for the observation of the Non-Importation, we, as above, solemnly agree and associate, that from this day we will not purchase or use any Tea imported on account of the East India Company, or any on which a Duty hath been or shall be paid; and from and after the first day of March next we will not purchase or use any East India Tea whatsoever; nor will we, nor shall any person for or under us, purchase or use any of those Goods, Wares, or Merchandises we have agreed not to import, which we shall know, or have cause to suspect, were imported after the first day of December, except such as come under the rules and directions of the tenth Article hereafter mentioned.

4. The earnest desire we have not to injure our fellow-subjects in Great Britain, Ireland, or the West Indies, induces us to suspend a Non-Exportation until the tenth day of September, 1775; at which time, if the said Acts and parts of Acts of the British Parliament herein after mentioned, are not repealed, we will not, directly or indirectly, export any Merchandise or Commodity whatsoever to Great Britain, Ireland, or the West Indies, except Rice to Europe.

5. Such as are Merchants, and use the British and Irish Trade, will give orders as soon as possible to their Factors, Agents, and Correspondents, in Great Britain and Ireland, not to ship any Goods to them, on any pretence whatsoever, as they cannot be received in America; and if any Merchant residing in Great Britain or Ireland, shall directly or indirectly ship any Goods, Wares, or Merchandises for America, in order to break the said Non-Importation Agreement, or in any manner contravene the same, on such unworthy conduct being well attested, it ought to be made publick; and, on the same being so done, we will not from thenceforth have any commercial connection with such Merchant.

6. That such as are Owners of vessels will give positive orders to their Captains, or Masters, not to receive on board their vessels any Goods prohibited by the said Non-Importation Agreement, on pain of immediate dismission from their service.

7. We will use our utmost endeavours to improve the breed of Sheep, and increase their number to the greatest extent; and to that end, we will kill them as sparingly as may be, especially those of the most profitable kind; nor will we export any to the West Indies or elsewhere; and those of us who are or may become overstocked with, or can conveniently spare any Sheep, will dispose of them to our neighbours, especially to the poorer sort, upon moderate terms.

8. That we will, in our several stations, encourage Frugality, Economy, and Industry, and promote Agriculture, Arts, and the Manufactures of this Country, especially that of Wool; and will discountenance and discourage every species of extravagance and dissipation, especially all horse-racing, and all kinds of gaming, cock-fighting, exhibitions of plays, shews, and other expensive diversions and entertainments; and on the death of any relation or friend, none of us, or any of our families, will go into any further mourning-dress than a black crape or ribbon on the arm or hat for gentlemen, and a black ribbon and necklace for ladies, and we will discontinue the giving of gloves and scarfs at funerals.

9. That such as are venders of Goods or Merchandises will not take advantage of the scarcity of Goods that may be occasioned by this Association, but will sell the same at the rates we have been respectively accustomed to do for twelve months last past. And if any vender of Goods or Merchandises shall sell any such Goods on higher terms, or shall, in any manner, or by any device whatsoever, violate or depart from this Agreement, no person ought, nor will any of us deal with any such person, or his or her Factor or Agent, at any time thereafter for any commodity whatever.

10. In case any Merchant, Trader, or other person, shall import any Goods or Merchandise, after the first day of December, and before the first day of February next, the same ought forthwith, at the election of the owner, to be either re-shipped or delivered up to the Committee of the County or Town wherein they shall be imported, to be stored at the risk of the importer, until the Non-Importation Agreement shall cease, or be sold under the direction of the Committee aforesaid; and in the last mentioned case, the owner or owners of such Goods shall be reimbursed out of the sales the first cost and charges; the profit, if any, to be applied towards relieving and employing such poor inhabitants of the Town of Boston as are immediate sufferers by the Boston Port Bill; and a particular account of all Goods so returned, stored, or sold, to be inserted in the publick papers; and if any Goods or Merchandises shall be imported after the said first day of February, the same ought forthwith to be sent back again, without breaking any of the packages thereof.

11. That a Committee be chosen in every County, City, and Town, by those who are qualified to vote for Representatives in the Legislature, whose business it shall be attentively to observe the conduct of all persons touching this Association; and when it shall be made to appear to the satisfaction of a majority of any such Committee, that any person within the limits of their appointment has violated this Association, that such majority do forthwith cause the truth of the case to be published in the Gazette, to the end that all such foes to the rights of British America may be publickly known, and universally contemned as the enemies of American Liberty; and thenceforth we respectively will break off all dealings with him or her.

12. That the Committee of Correspondence, in the respective Colonies, do frequently inspect the Entries of their Custom Houses, and inform each other, from time to time, of the true state thereof, and of every other material circumstance that may occur relative to this Association.

13. That all Manufactures of this country be sold at reasonable prices, so that no undue advantage be taken of a future scarcity of Goods.

14. And we do further agree and resolve that we will have no Trade, Commerce, Dealings, or Intercourse whatsoever with any Colony or Province in North America, which shall not accede to, or which shall hereafter violate this Association, but will hold them as unworthy of the rights of freemen, and as inimical to the liberties of this country.

And we do solemnly bind ourselves and our constituents, under the ties aforesaid, to adhere to this Association until such parts of the several Acts of Parliament passed since the close of the last war, as impose or continue Duties on Tea, Wine, Molasses, Syrups, Paneles, Coffee, Sugar, Pimento, Indigo, Foreign Paper, Glass, and Painters’ Colours, imported into America, and extend the powers of the Admiralty Courts beyond their ancient limits, deprive the American subjects of Trial by Jury, authorize the Judge’s certificate to indemnify the prosecutor from damages that he might otherwise be liable to from a trial by his peers, require oppressive security from a claimant of Ships or Goods seized, before he shall be allowed to defend his property, are repealed.—And until that part of the Act of the 12th George III. ch. 24, entitled “An Act for the better securing his Majesty’s Dock-yards, Magazines, Ships, Ammunition, and Stores,” by which any person charged with committing any of the offences therein described, in America, may be tried in any Shire or County within the Realm, is repealed—and until the four Acts, passed in the last session of Parliament, viz: that for stopping the Port and blocking up the Harbour of Boston—that for altering the Charter and Government of the Massachusetts Bay—and that which is entitled An Act for the better Administration of Justice, &c.—and that for extending the Limits of Quebec, &c., are repealed. And we recommend it to the Provincial Conventions, and to the Committees in the respective Colonies, to establish such farther Regulations as they may think proper for carrying into execution this Association.

The foregoing Association being determined upon by the Congress, was ordered to be subscribed by the several Members thereof; and thereupon, we have hereunto set our respective names accordingly.

In Congress, Philadelphia, October 20, 1774.


63 posted on 08/02/2011 12:37:55 PM PDT by maxsand
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To: GreaterSwiss

They’re simply formalizing the oligarchy.


64 posted on 08/02/2011 12:39:11 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ('I seem to smell the stench of appeasement in the air.' -- Margaret Thatcher)
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To: GreaterSwiss

Tells you what the purpose is: to shut out any chance of reducing government or turning the march to marxism back.


65 posted on 08/02/2011 12:41:17 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: ctdonath2
Well, it states there that all the jokers responsible for this mess are the ones who will choose the committee members. Reid, McConnell, Boehner and Pelosi. You think they'll let TEA party members play in their sandbox? It may not say they're precluded from serving on this committee, but I'm betting these people will play favorites. It's how they do things in Washington.
66 posted on 08/02/2011 12:47:31 PM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: baddog 219

cool graphic.

is that available in sticker form?


67 posted on 08/02/2011 12:56:58 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: baddog 219
Resist the Tyranny of Socialism
68 posted on 08/02/2011 12:58:52 PM PDT by xeno
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To: mojito

And is skanky friends across the aisle.

We need to start the drum beat that since the committee is not representative of the elected officials and is unconstitutional if it have power over our elected reps., it is meaningless. We reject it’s power and say so.


69 posted on 08/02/2011 1:01:49 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Psalm 144

I am sorry Rep West was complicit is “creating” an Extra-Constiustional Entity therefore VIOLATING BOTH his oath of Office as a US Army Officer AND his Oath to the US Constitution as a US Congressman. He needs fired by being primaried. My Heart aches for this country and I will be in prayer for it Friday night and Saturday.


70 posted on 08/02/2011 1:05:54 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: GreaterSwiss

Sounds like a 2012 rallying cry to me.


71 posted on 08/02/2011 1:07:05 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: CodeToad

I think this cannot pass the legality test just like you do but then again, we have an asshat in the oval office who believes the Constitution needs be changed to enumerate what the government should do for you....fine...first amendment, go away.


72 posted on 08/02/2011 1:08:24 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: GreaterSwiss

The fix was in the whole time.


73 posted on 08/02/2011 1:10:20 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: US Navy Vet

I believe I will join you. We stand with the Red Sea before us, and pharaoh and his army behind us. Right here, right now.


74 posted on 08/02/2011 1:10:29 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: GreaterSwiss
UPDATE: McConnell spokesman Don Stewart says all senators will be considered.

As you were. Don't let this interfere with your hysteria.

75 posted on 08/02/2011 1:16:09 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (I said it, I meant it and I represent it.)
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To: US Navy Vet

I haven’t given up on West yet, but hwhen he joined the CBC it made my tin foil hat awful hot and it started buzzing.


76 posted on 08/02/2011 1:19:21 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: ctdonath2
The hyperbole on this site is amazing and amusing, considering it's from the same folks time after time.Their hair is constantly on fire.
77 posted on 08/02/2011 1:20:14 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: GreaterSwiss
While there’s certain logic to such a policy...

A certain Machiavellian logic.

78 posted on 08/02/2011 1:21:46 PM PDT by _a_0_0_
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To: US Navy Vet
"I am sorry Rep West was complicit is “creating” an Extra-Constiustional Entity therefore VIOLATING BOTH his oath of Office as a US Army Officer AND his Oath to the US Constitution as a US Congressman. He needs fired by being primaried. My Heart aches for this country and I will be in prayer for it Friday night and Saturday."

I'm having a very hard time understanding Rep West's agenda. One cannot be a true Conservative while voting with the opposite RINOs & RATS!!

Originally, I would have considered him a good VP choice for Sarah, if she runs.

NOW - I am totally confused!! Please, anyone - explain to me about what he is doing.

79 posted on 08/02/2011 1:21:50 PM PDT by LADY J ( Change your thoughts and you change your world.. - Norman Vincent Peale))
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To: liberalh8ter

Quotes and chapter & verse, please - not imputations. I want to understand the actual verbiage, not hysterical rumors.


80 posted on 08/02/2011 1:26:00 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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