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Transparent lithium ion batteries make electricity generating windows possible
Chemistry World ^ | 26 July 2011 | Kate McAlpine

Posted on 08/03/2011 12:16:01 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: Molon Labbie

There would still be a bill. Roads would still need to be mailtained and you’d have to pay a much higher wage for people who can fix that road.

But overall, it’s possible that the overall costs could be lower.


21 posted on 08/03/2011 4:05:49 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Spaulding
The incident energy on a large window, a meter square on a bright day in the desert with no shade might be as high as one hundred watts,

Your estimate is low.

Note that these are average values from the entire year. Peaks are far higher. Click pic to enlarge.

22 posted on 08/03/2011 5:26:58 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Jonty30
Apple peddles a thin-line keyboard that's nearly as robust as early manual typewriters when it comes to juice and sand.

Technology sometimes catches up with itself.

23 posted on 08/03/2011 5:27:10 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: neverdem
Sigh... Gold film... Well, it's a start, but gold film in windows is a bad sign for obvious economic and quantity issues. I'm sure they'll turn to looking for a replacement. And they should be applauded for their work to date.
24 posted on 08/03/2011 5:29:31 AM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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25 posted on 08/03/2011 5:36:30 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: neverdem
polydimethylsiloxane (PDMS)

I think my wife gets that sometimes. I just try to avoid her for a few days.

26 posted on 08/03/2011 6:09:08 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Don't mend SS, end it.)
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oh yeah, that’s the double dose.


27 posted on 08/03/2011 6:13:59 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: thackney
Your estimate is low.

While my estimate was “back of the envelope” your map is for a “Two-Axis Tracking Concentrator”. Windows don't track the sun. They don't concentrate the sun's energy. Without tracking, and without even optimal South-facing orientation, my estimate is probably generous. Only one quarter of the windows on a simplified home are South-facing. They will only be roughly oriented toward the sun in the morning and late in the afternoon when light passing through the atmosphere obliquely has already lost much of its energy to atmospheric absorption.

Bottom line: My estimate is high. Take the mid-range of idealized tracking concentrators (these are reflecting windows, not concentrator), 5 KWHrs for about 6 hours giving about 800 watts M-squared (hardly ever happens, but let's use it) divided by 4, assuming a South-facing wall, and, divided by 3 again since less than 2 hours of the 6 are directly incident, giving us about 260 watts, using the cosine of the angle between the sun's elevation to the perpendicular to the window brings you to 130 watts. Then, the reality of atmospheric absorption at low angles, which absorb about half the energy for modest atmospheric water content will bring the real energy available for conversion to electricity to about 65 Watts. Assume ten percent conversion efficiency, which is probably fair - 6.5 watts per square meter.

Without tracking there is little point. But perhaps we could provide tax incentives, or even have the EPA require that all future houses be mounted on gimbals allowing one wall with windows to be moved so to track the sun and our problem is solved!

I had to go through these details to be dissuaded from my idealistic notion of renewable solar energy while in graduate school. I also came to recognize the sad reality of research guided by the latest darling of the political class. Government funding of scientific research has helped to hinder legitimate research in many areas. Just look at climate science. Medicine is a mess. Look at Aids research, and the wonder discovery of the month, which is never heard from again, funded by our tax dollars. Cary Mullis, Nobel for PCR used to detect real virus, discovered that he could be paid for not lecturing about the truth - there is no evidence of a causal relationship between HIV and Aids. But we spend over ten billion a year to keep biochemists busy on what is very likely a wild goose chase. Politicians get plenty of support for their re-election campaigns, and for their compassion. Renewable energy is as good a scam as Aids research, and perhaps better if the can ram cap-and-trade down the throats of the gullible.

The materials science technology does look interesting, but its application is almost worthless. Now if the technology could be used for remote highway emergency phones, or for some other low power, high value application, it could make sense. But as our government's economy is being destroyed our radical left, universities will write proposals the radicals might approve so our grad students have some funding.

Our scientists and engineers are moving back to the countries some of them escaped, and from which some immigrated, Russia, China. I'm urging my children to learn Mandarin or Spanish (Chile), or French (Canada). Those in charge are destroying capitalism by having so many working in the nonproductive sector - government, and so many not working at all. There is no way to support so many non-workers, and no reason to swear allegiance to a country where individual rights are no longer protected by a Constitution.

28 posted on 08/03/2011 6:34:47 AM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Jonty30

Like, you hurl coffee or juice at your cat sitting in the window?


29 posted on 08/03/2011 2:20:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

More like, it likes laying where you’re guarenteed to trip over it.


30 posted on 08/03/2011 2:26:53 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: neverdem

Wow, first time in a long time I’ve read about Windows technology I could get energized about. :-/


31 posted on 08/03/2011 2:41:05 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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32 posted on 08/14/2011 4:51:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Avery Iota Kracker
We make batteries a lot.

No buy.

 

"A light generating device utilizes a large centrally located magnet which is mounted to slide past a magnet pickup or current induction wire which may be preferably mounted at a center point of travel in a tubular housing having a tubular chamber through which the magnet travels. A pair of elastomeric bumpers are located each at the end of the tubular chamber which may be inside or outside the flashlight. The result is a device which both facilitates the manual movement of the flashlight body so that the magnet slides past the center magnet pickup or current induction wire, and also conserves the residual momentum of the magnet once it has traveled past the magnet pickup or current induction wire by providing a bumper and spring to conserve some of the mechanical energy going in the other direction. Ninety second of manual activation enables about five minutes of illumination. "

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33 posted on 08/14/2011 5:50:17 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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