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Posted on 08/03/2011 9:46:46 AM PDT by MizSterious
SAN ANGELO, Texas (AP) — Prosecutors are still questioning their final witness in the Texas trial of a polygamist leader accused of sexually assaulting two girls he took as brides during so-called spiritual marriages.
Texas Ranger Nick Hanna was on the stand for a second day Wednesday, and prosecutors were close to resting their case against Warren Jeffs.
The 55-year-old leads the Fundamental Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, which believes polygamy brings exaltation in heaven.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
Polygamy is not being argued in this case, though. It’s about sexual abuse of children. That is NOT freedom of religion. If “Freedom of Religion” is going to give freedom to do whatever you want in the name of some kind of religion, then what’s to stop someone from forming, let’s say, The First Church of the Holy Bank Robber, where one of the holy sacraments is robbing banks? (All bow down to the great god, Ralph the Cabbage, who rewards you with lots of “green.”)
How sad. How sick. I say bring the female pimps to stand trial, along with the men.
But in the same light, I also wonder why no real inspection could have been given when this almost-isolated culture in Texas was becoming a pedophile culture?
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Don’t blame Texas for this. This isn’t isolated at all. This behavior goes on in ALL polygamous groups and started with the Mormon founder and prophet Joseph Smith in Kirtland, Ohio in 1836.
This is a huge part of Mormon history and of Utah history. Before moving to Texas, this same man did the same kinds of things in Utah and Arizona. Utah LEOs tend to turn a blind eye to polygamy.
This is not ‘isolated’ at all. There are polygamous groups who do the same thing in many western states and Canada.
You think a ‘marriage’ to a 12 yr old is legit?!?!
Again, by concentrating on Jeffs and the “F” LDS we’re giving the LDS a pass. Think about this. If Jeffs is a sick, twisted pervert, so was the founder of this “religion” and at least every “prophet” until 1890.
What do you mean “we”? I think what is happening is that the entire group, with or without the “f,” is being examined thanks to this trial. Had they made it a trial about polygamy, this wouldn’t be happening. Texas instead focused on one of the worst of their crimes: raping little girls. People are taking a second look at the writings of the church founders and recoiling in horror. The “I am Mormon” ad campaign will not help in this instance.
Let me rephrase that. If “we” concentrate on Jeffs and the FLDS only....
I hope you’re right but all I’ve seen is the press looking at the F.....LDS and the pervert Jeffs.
I do like what you said ....the worst of THEIR crimes: raping little girls.
The First Church of the Holy Bank Robber
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That one has been done
Joey Smith started his own bank in Kirkland OH because of a “revelation” The mormon god was into get rich quick schemes
Joey Smith printed $3 bills and had a bank scam going
He was convicted and fined $1000 only he wasnt available to pay
He had already skipped town as usual..
:)
“Warren Parrish, who had been an officer in the bank and had apostatized from the Church, made this statement: “I have listened to him [i.e. Smith] with feelings of no ordinary kind, when he declared that the AUDIBLE VOICE OF GOD, INSTRUCTED HIM TO ESTABLISH A BANKING-ANTI BANKING INSTITUTION, who like Aaron’s rod SHALL SWALLOW UP ALL OTHER BANKS (the Bank of Monroe excepted,) and grow and flourish and spread from the rivers to the ends of the earth, and survive when all others should be laid in ruins.” (Painesville Republican, February 22, 1838, as quoted in Conflict at Kirtland, page 297)
Wilford Woodruff, who remained true to the Church and became the fourth President, confirmed the fact that Joseph Smith claimed to have a revelation concerning the bank. Under the date of January 6, 1837, he recorded the following in his journal: “I also herd [sic] President Joseph Smith, jr., declare in the presence of F. Williams, D. Whitmer, S. Smith, W. Parrish, and others in the Deposit office that HE HAD RECEIVED THAT MORNING THE WORD OF THE LORD UPON THE SUBJECT OF THE KIRTLAND SAFETY SOCIETY. He was alone in a room by himself and he had not only [heard] the voice of the Spirit upon the Subject but even an AUDIBLE VOICE. He did not tell us at that time what the Lord said upon the subject but remarked that if we would give heed to the commandments the Lord had given this morning all would be well.” (”Wilford Woodruff’s Journal,” January 6, 1837, as quoted in Conflict at Kirtland, page 296)
(From Mormonism - Shadow or Reality? page 531)
“Construction of the temple had temporarily boosted the economy of Kirtland, but after the dedication the economy declined as poor converts arrived in ever increasing numbers. The old settlers attempted to keep them out of Kirtland by economic pressures, but the Mormon population increased twentyfold while the landholdings only quadrupled. In November 1836 Joseph and other church leaders drew up articles for a bank to provide capital for investments. It was a desperate gamble. Oliver Cowdery went to Philadelphia for plates to print bank notes, and Orson Hyde went to the legislature in Columbus with a petition for a bank license. It was refused. Oliver returned with plates for the Kirtland Safety Society Bank, but Orson Hyde came back without a charter. The plates were so expensive that they printed some specie anyway, writing in “Anti” before the word “Bank” and “ing” after it. The notes read, “Kirtland Safety Society Anti-Banking Company,” and the paper passed as legal tender from a joint-stock company. At first the money circulated wildly. When merchants and businessmen who were more sophisticated than the Mormons began to redeem their notes, Joseph could see that a run would ruin the bank. After one month he and Sidney Rigdon resigned as officers but the bank failed. This affected Joseph’s status.
People who were convinced that Joseph had intended a swindle at the outset attacked him verbally and threatened him physically. This disruption forced Joseph to leave the city frequently....
In April 1837 Joseph went into hiding without seeing Emma before he left. (Mormon Enigma, pp. 62)
The First Church of the Holy Bank Robber
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Fawn Brodie details this about the demise of the Kirtland Safety Society Anti-Banking Company:
“If the bank needed a final blow to shatter what little prestige it still held among the faithful, it received it when Warren Parrish resigned as cashier, left the church, and began openly to describe the banking methods of the prophet. Parrish was later accused of absconding with $25,000, but if he took the sum it must have been in WORTHLESS BANK NOTES, since that amount of specie in the vaults would have saved the bank, at least during Joseph’s term as cashier.” (No Man Knows My History, page 198)
“The toppling of the Kirtland bank loosed a hornets’ nest. Creditors swarmed in upon Joseph armed with threats and warrants. He was terribly in debt. There is no way of knowing exactly how much he and his leading elders had borrowed, since the loyal Mormons left no itemized account of their own claims. But the local non-Mormon creditors whom he could not repay brought a series of suits against the prophet which the Geauga county court duly recorded. These records tell a story of trouble that would have demolished the prestige and broken the spirit of a lesser man.
“Thirteen suits were brought against him between June 1837 and April 1839, to collect sums totaling nearly $25,000. The damages asked amounted to almost $35,000. He was arrested seven times in four months, and his followers managed heroically to raise the $38,428 required for bail. Of the thirteen suits only six were settled out of court-about $12,000 out of the $25,000. In the other seven the creditors either were awarded damages or won them by default.
“Joseph had many additional debts that never resulted in court action. Some years later he compiled a list of still outstanding Kirtland loans, which amounted to more than $33,000. If one adds to these the two great loans of $30,000 and $60,000 borrowed in New York and Buffalo in 1836, it would seem that the Mormon leaders owed to non-Mormon individuals and firms well over $150,000.” (No Man Knows My History, pp. 199-202)
LOL—but they never worshiped Ralph the Cabbage!
Just heard someone on the news say that some of the jurors put their hands over their mouths as they listened to the tapes—folks, I think that’s it for Jeffs if that’s true. The jury sounds thoroughly disgusted. No Casey Anthony jury in that Texas courtroom!
Let's hope prosecutors in other areas go after men who are doing the same thing as Warren Jeffs.
Just tweeted from Gosanangelo.com
Expert witness lists includes a guy in Georgia, a TX doctor and a Salt Lake City-based forensics/genomics company.
It’s just a matter of time.
Once THE definition of marriage is invalidated, then there’s NO definition that couldn’t be eventually accepted.
One of the pushes of the left is to “lower the age of consent”. The APA, the ones who declassified homosexuality as a mental illness, now has come up with the term “adult-child sex” and has “studied” the benefits, to the child, of such relationships.
Reaganaut - _I_ don’t see a “marriage” to a 12 yr old as legit, but the left WILL push for such a thing. Their goal is to make it at least legal if not socially acceptable for a 45+ yr old man to have sex with little boys.
I'm sure Jeffs fears the same treatment in prison.........being held down by a group..... of men.
A Mike Adams thread on the redefinition of marriage.
The guy is a master of satire, and yet it is too true of our times.
Cuomo Phobia
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