Posted on 08/06/2011 9:37:25 AM PDT by spiderfern
By “tactical,” I meant that it was immediately actionable. Scratch one enemy admiral.
This is the second time we’ve lost a ship load of Seals in one shot. The first time was a hurry-up headuptheass rescue mission where they never cleared an LZ. We seem to have some real slow learning officers in military management. Never mind the life loss while I make a point. These guys are extremely valuable individually. They are specifically trained to work in small groups quietly. Making a real hi-value target by putting 20 of them together in one pokey chopper is tactical incompetence of the highest order. We couldn’t afford a chopper for each squad??? A true Seal mission, if this was one, would/ should have had access to whatever hardware they thot they needed. On it’s face, by the description so far available, this mission was sabotage by incompetence at the simplest level and maybe inside treason on the other end of the scale. I would dearly love to get my own crack at investigating the chain of command that put this mission in motion. There is a certain sniff of short-timers who are getting careless——I feel my blood pressure going up-—I couldn’t be any more disgusted-—so I’d better quit.
I know God will have a good mission ready for the lost troopers-——SEMPER FI.
Good point.
Navy Seals special ops are supposed to be kept secret. I couldn’t believe that the Obama Administration outed them.
That’s pretty low. Would you like to say that over my buddy’s grave? Or hue about the one with no legs or right hand?
May God give them eternal peace and bless their families.
Kinda what I was thinking, No pictures of Bin Laden, buried at sea, now the people that supposedly killed him are dead. What to believe?
Now !
Bullsit.
Coincidence my azz.
How in the heck could they publish or even have knowledge these men were responsible for “offing” Bin Laden?
I call BS.
It it is true then shame on the Ahole who let it be known and the ones who let these men die.
The Taliban will celebrate this as a victory and it will raise their moral.
Just irresponsible....
The story going around the campfire was that when the stealth Blackhawk crashed during the original Osama raid it killed everyone on board. This was what all the neighbors and eyewitnesses on the ground reported. They also said the Osama never lived there. This could be a less embarrassing way to explain the deaths of all those men and why there are no American witnesses to Osama's "death".
As to what to believe, I personally I never believe a word out of FEDGOV or the Corporate Media. If fact if you want to arrive at the truth of any issue you take what they say about it and reverse its meaning 180 degrees.
I hope you are, too.
I was referring to the Midway intercept, not the Admiral.
Is it a coincidence that this appeared in the New Yorker yesterday? it’s a very informative write up, and I’m sure Al Qaeda appreciates all the inside information, but if you’ll count their occurrences, Obama was mentioned forty times and Osama only twenty six, so who do you think this story was really about?
It’s just another Obama “Puff-Piece” by a liberal journalist depicting Obama as the overall hero in this incident, but if the raid had been a disaster, as almost happened, this journalist would have found a way to make it appear to be “Bush’s Fault.”
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/08/08/110808fa_fact_schmidle#ixzz1U1N4124G
First, let me express my sadness at this tragedy. Then let me express my disgust. These must be about the twenty individually most valuable folks in the entire US military in terms of the leverage that they bring to our military affairs. The cost of training them is unimaginable as is just the amount of ammo they expend in training. You would not put 20 such guys on a flight from San Diego to LA, much less on the same helicopter in a combat zone.
And damn it. After OSB everyone knew everyone was looking for these guys.
IMHO...
Since the raid that killed been ladin, all the enemy over there were bent on revenge. I’m guessing they set up manual surveillance chains with communication via cell phone, coupled with planned simple rpg guys sitting awake at night, all over afghan and pakystan at all high value targets. When middle of the night Chinook is heard, they know they have an incoming and they manually track from the ground and start alerting ahead. Essentially, every high value target is a trap.
Just my guess.
Which is why I wish that this were the last deaths using current strategies.
No how, no way should we attempt to nation build over there.
Why - because we have to stay forever. Because the second we leave, they go back to normal life over there.
You can’t teach morality - you can only teach respect and fear with liberal use of violence on aggressors.
A simple destruction of the capital city was all that was needed for afghan, should have taken only a month.
We’re down a rat hole trying to teach the rats table manners. Just chuck a grenade down there and go home.
Pakistani intelligence or military members loyal to the Taliban are more suspicious than China or Russia, IMO.
This reminds me of “Clear and Present Danger”. No doubt that Obama made a deal with the Pakistan government to surrender the criminals who murdered Osama. No doubt at all.
Whatever happened...happened.
We shouldn’t be ID’ing our guys and their units for PR hits from our side and for damn sure, the other side.
FUBO.
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