Posted on 08/07/2011 11:35:29 AM PDT by Kaslin
How bad would it be to have a Mormon President in the White House?
"The Marxism that exists in the White House right now is waaay more disturbing to me" noted Phil, a recent caller to one of my daily talk shows. "If we could replace that with Mormonism, I think thatd be a huge improvement..."
I completely agree with Phil. But if a recent Gallup poll is any indication, lots of Americans think differently than us and this should be a wake-up call for former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, and the entire Republican Party.
Im not assuming that Mr. Romney will necessarily end up being the Republican presidential nominee. He's the current frontrunner in fundraising, ground game support, and popularity among likely voters, but as other candidates drop out Newt Gingrich, for example will Romney pick up those supporters? Time will tell.
For now, Republican strategists have to think seriously about how to hold together the divided coalitions on the right, and how to get over the "religious hurdles" that nobody wants to talk about. And those of us rank-and-file voters are going to have to wrestle with my question "how bad would it be - really?"
Before I go further, let me be clear on where I stand. I was honored to vote for Mr. Romney during the 2008 Republican primary races, even though at the time I was a resident and registered voter in "McCain Country" (Arizona).
I also grew up in a theologically conservative, Protestant Evangelical, church-going family, and was taught that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is a "cult." As an adult, I earned a graduate degree in Philosophy at a fairly reputable Evangelical divinity school, where, among other things, I learned about the theological differences between Evangelical Protestants and Mormons.
I disclose these things simply to make this point: I understand the theological tensions between Mormonism and other faith traditions, and my choice to be friends with and supportive of Mormons is by no means an uninformed choice.
I also know that, generally speaking, Mormons love America; they regard the U.S. Constitution as something that is to be respected; and Mormons generally have a profound understanding of the importance of individual liberty. These are all essential and necessary ingredients for American statesmanship, and if it takes a Mormon to return these ideals back to the White House, well, then, so be it.
But back to the polling data. According to the Gallup organization, roughly 22% of Americans simply will not vote for a Mormon to be President. Period. It doesn't matter who the incumbent is, or the party affiliation of the respective candidates. If a presidential candidate is identified with the L.D.S. Church, these voters simply will not cast their ballot for that candidate. Among Republicans and Independents that number drops down to 20%, and among Democrats, specifically, the number skyrockets up to 27%.
So, can Mr. Romney win against these odds? We'll see how things shape-up once the Republican Primary process unfolds. But one thing is for sure: Team Romney most avoid the mistakes of the previous campaign.
Early in his last presidential bid, Mr. Romney claimed that he didn't want to talk about his church, but instead, wanted to talk about being President. But the "Mormon thing" proved to be unavoidable then, and will be that way again this time.
Thus, Mr. Romney should stop trying to prove to "them" - theologically conservative Evangelicals, and Catholics - that he is one of "them." The more he insists that we are all "on the same page," religiously speaking, the more that theologically conservative Catholics and Protestants will say "oh, no were not..."
Instead, Mr. Romney should explain why his Mormonism matters to the cause of American civic leadership; that his faith enables him to understand the dignity of the human person, the sanctity of life, the profundity of marriage, the necessity of human liberty, and so forth. He needs to honestly admit that, while the theological divide is real, our American values are universal.
On this point, Romney could borrow from the immediate past Commander-in-Chief. In a little-known speech from March of 2001, President George W. Bush spoke at the opening of the Pope John Paul II Cultural Center in Washington. Bush, of course, is a Methodist (with strong ties to non-denominational Evangelicalism), yet he managed to do a remarkable job of stating to the Catholic hierarchy, "I may not be a parishioner but I'm a sojourner with you..." and then brilliantly went on to say that we are "one" with our values.
Romney must avoid appearing as though he's denying the existence of theological tensions. At the same time, he needs to stay out of theological debates, and steer the "religious questions" in to a discussion about values.
It is a difficult task at hand for Mr. Romney, yet his Mormonism nurtures our American values. He needs to say as much.
This is why I rarely respond to any articles regarding religion. Every time the nutters come out and start trashing other religions.
The reason why I would never vote for Mitt Romney have nothing to do with the fact he is (allegedly) a Mormon like Harry Reid (allegedly). I would never vote for Mitt because he is a progressive, beltway insider, mainstream republican, big government, big spending, fiscal liberal.
If Mitt were a small government, constitutionalist, fiscal conservative, his religion wouldn’t mean squat to me. Same goes for the big spending, bleeding heart, social justice, “Republican” Mike Huckabee.
Just because you go to church every week, doesn’t make you a constitutionalist. I wan’t a seriously restricted fedgov and I want it yesterday.
I don’t have a single problem with a Mormon President. I have a MAJOR problem with Mitt Romney because he’s a RINO.
What America needs is someone with spine enough to eliminate the atheistic socialist policies enacted by this and the previous two administrations, not someone who will simply let them ride and potentially assist them in success of the destruction of America's principles and high standing in the world.
Pray that we do not nominate Romney or any other big government socialist. We have the golden opportunity for conservatism now. If we elect a socialist under the GOP title right now, no conservative and many of the moderates will ever trust the GOP again. This election cycle is the make or break, for the GOP...either they put up a conservative, or they are branded with the platform attribute and signature of atheistic secular socialist. The result, for the GOP, will be that conservatives and moderates alike will hold little, if any, affinity for the GOP in the future. The result for the nation and much of the world, will be devastating and irreversible economic, social and moral decadence. It is clear where the recent trend, by the last three administrations is taking us. We won't be replacing Marxism with Mormonism, if we elected Romney. We would be replacing nothing, only moderately slowing it down.
They also "selected" Bob Dole in 1995/6 (remember Dole's "gravitas"? -- what a joke!), and they tried to "select" George H.W. Bush in 1980, but Ronnie beat them, and then in the general, he crushed them.
But, owning up to my own, I have to admit in all humility that the MSM megaliars had me going in 1980 and I thought Reagan would probably lose the election -- no, really -- even on election eve. They flimflammed me, lied to me. And I've been frosted with those lying sob's ever since. They are shameless, valueless, worthless.
I live to see them ground into slime under Sarah's high heels. How 'bout that?! </confessional mode>
Ah,... but then again, aren't you a Mormon?
“They need to give it a rest. I dont care! A gay buddhist vegetarian with a crooked smile and a bad haircut(*) would get my vote over Obama, so long as hes not a marxist big spender.”
“Ah,... but then again, aren’t you a Mormon?”
No I’m not. Not even close. I guess any non-bigot confuses you.
When will you give up your anti-Mormon paranoia?
“Every time the nutters come out and start trashing other religions.”
Yup. IMHO, it’s the ugliest part of FR.
It’s sad when Christians act more like Pharisees than like Christ.
“Just because you go to church every week, doesnt make you a constitutionalist.”
Yup. It’s sad to see Obama bumper stickers in our Church parking lot. But they are there. Ugg.
When I see one at mine, I will find a another church.
“Yup. Its sad to see Obama bumper stickers in our Church parking lot. But they are there. Ugg.”
To tell you the truth, if your church was teaching Biblical truths, Obama voters wouldn’t want to come anywhere near there.
Sorry. I get my Romney schills and my Mormons mixed up. They are both so deluded.
You continue to be very deluded. I do not support Romney(*); you continue to confuse opposing anti-Mormon bigotry with being a ‘shill’ for Romney or Mormonism. your close-minded anti-mormon paranioa is leading you astray.
(*)(My guy until Perry jumped in was Herman Cain; also impressed with Bachmann, but I likely will end up supporting Perry as the best combo of conservative values and executive experience in the field.)
Looks like redstate.com is one of your favorite schilling grounds - but there is evidence of your Romney adulation even here on FR. Better watch out! Jim Robison doesn't like schilling for Romney on his site.
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