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MSNBC HARDBALL 8/4/11:“The stimulus experience was a big setback for Keynesian economic theory”
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Posted on 08/07/2011 7:39:54 PM PDT by sickoflibs

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I caught these two gems Thursday night and had to share. On Hardball they realize they defeated themselves.

Over at Maddow-land "Everyone knows ..." whatever Maddow is selling that night must be right, it's always 'so obvious'. Check out the 10 to 1 math.

1 posted on 08/07/2011 7:40:04 PM PDT by sickoflibs
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To: sickoflibs

It was a big setback for THE KENYAN’S economic theory as well.


2 posted on 08/07/2011 7:45:07 PM PDT by festusbanjo (Attn: Current Occupant 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., let this serve as your eviction notice eff.11/06/2012)
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To: sickoflibs

Keynesian theory?
Global warming theory?
Religion of peace theory?

Same bull Obama.

Same people.

Massive fail ... As usual.


3 posted on 08/07/2011 7:47:27 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: LMAO; DeaconBenjamin; April Lexington; murphE; RipSawyer; Tunehead54; preacher; 1234; coloradan; ...
The Peter Schiff/Austrian Economics ping. (Washington Bankrupting our Nation by Spending your past, present and future money!)
4 posted on 08/07/2011 7:48:07 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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“They had no intention of saving capitalism. They wanted to destroy it and replace it with socialism or Marxism or fascism or whatever you want to call it.”

Let none of us forget that GWB said we must destroy the free market in order to save it.

So he and his republican New Worlds Order kool-aid drinkers are on board too.


5 posted on 08/07/2011 7:50:31 PM PDT by stockpirate (Proud member of the TEA Party, aka Terrorists Emancipating America)
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Ironically, although Keynesian economic theory has always been known to be a fraud, the failure of the “stimulus” package doesn’t really prove the point because the stimulus package was never anything more than a political slush fund for bailing out failed union pension funds and keeping Democrat municipal governments afloat. Very little of the $800 billion actually went to anythiny normally associated with “stimulus”. It was mostly used just to pay bills.

And so now the Keynesians have to either admit that they and their theories are abject failures or nod that yes, the stimulus package was a massive, brazen theft by their Democrat party on behalf of political special interests. What to do, oh, what to do...


6 posted on 08/07/2011 7:51:09 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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7 posted on 08/07/2011 7:52:11 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: sickoflibs

EXCELLENT post. Thank you.


8 posted on 08/07/2011 7:52:32 PM PDT by DRey
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To: sickoflibs; RC2; Red Badger; stephenjohnbanker; M. Espinola; investigateworld; blam; scottfactor; ..
And here is another good video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e72EhTtSh0&feature=player_embedded

9 posted on 08/07/2011 7:53:26 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: festusbanjo

We are all Kenyans now/s;)


10 posted on 08/07/2011 7:53:26 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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sol,

Silly boy, you are actually listening to what they are saying, and understanding them, much to their dismay.

The true intent of their commentary is aimed only at themselves so they can land talking head jobs at low rated subsidiaries of soros.inc.

Logic, mathematical reality, and reason do not apply in that world.


11 posted on 08/07/2011 7:54:43 PM PDT by hotshu (Keep America's Faith, that's all 0bama and his fellow traitors can't steal from us.)
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Keynesian economics should have died in the late 1970s with stagflation...something Keynesian theory said could not happen. J M Keynes is like a zombie who keeps coming back from the dead looking for economies to devour.


12 posted on 08/07/2011 7:58:16 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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Do you have a link to that quote where he said that, to destroy the market to save it?


13 posted on 08/07/2011 8:02:28 PM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one doesn't need 'marching orders' to reach the same destination")
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...the failure of the “stimulus” package doesn’t really prove the point because the stimulus package was never anything more than a political slush fund for bailing out failed union pension funds and keeping Democrat municipal governments afloat.

Keynes theory is based upon expenditure by govt, not necessarily where it goes. The money gets spent regardless of the "first" recipient, makes it's way into the economy and finally into the banks. I would say that indeed Keynesian theory has thus failed, that private sector money has a greater multiplying effect than redistributive money.

Just my take...

14 posted on 08/07/2011 8:03:03 PM PDT by Mensius
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They’d rather put their faith in unicorns and pentagrams than to admit the spending must STOP.
It’s time to root out the crooked doctors, hospitals, lobbyists, welfare cheats, disability frauds, EPA over-regulators, ACORN lookalikes, and moronic HHS grants for example.
It’s time to start tax reform.
and it’s time to jettison this administration and the clueless leader.
Media talking heads should be outsourced - that alone would go a long way toward educating the American public about the long hard road we have to walk in order to undo this socialist experiment.


15 posted on 08/07/2011 8:04:52 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: The Great RJ

I watched an interesting video interview with F.A. Hayek before he died, and he said that in his opinion, even Keynes would vigorously disagree with how his theories have been interpreted.

For my part, I think Keynesian theory is complete hogwash from the get-go.


16 posted on 08/07/2011 8:05:04 PM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one doesn't need 'marching orders' to reach the same destination")
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We don't know that Keynes would be a "Keynsian" today. Keynes became a wealthy man by buying stocks. Not by going to work for a big firm that made a % off of bond sales and stock issues, but by buying and selling his own portfolio. How many Obama advisers can say the same? (My guess = 0)

Keynes thought that a central government that spent 5% of the GNP, and had an all but invisible regulatory footprint, could spur the economy by temporarily spending 10% of the GNP.

That does not mean that he would have thought a central government spending 22% of the GNP, and regulating everything that moves, would spur the economy by raising spending to 27% of GNP.

17 posted on 08/07/2011 8:06:04 PM PDT by Pilsner
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I think it is like socialism.

No matter how many times it is tried and failed, someone always thinks it is because it was done wrong.

“THIS time, WE will do it right!” It is a form of mental illness.


18 posted on 08/07/2011 8:07:03 PM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one doesn't need 'marching orders' to reach the same destination")
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To: sickoflibs

Setback? More like an ineluctable repudiation of Keynesian demand-side economics.


19 posted on 08/07/2011 8:07:43 PM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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I don’t have a link but it is fairly well known, even Rush plays it from time to time......

GWB is nothing but a New World Order big govrnment socialist.....


20 posted on 08/07/2011 8:07:48 PM PDT by stockpirate (Proud member of the TEA Party, aka Terrorists Emancipating America)
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