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California Votes To Bypass Electoral College
National Journel ^ | 8/9/11 | Matt Loeb

Posted on 08/09/2011 4:02:37 PM PDT by Lmo56

Golden State legislature says it will give its states electoral votes to the national popular vote winner.

Providing a significant boost to an effort to end-around the Electoral College, California Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation on Monday that would award the Golden State’s 55 electoral votes to the presidential candidate garnering the most votes nationwide.

California, which has more electoral votes than any other state in the nation, is the eighth state to join the National Popular Vote compact, an effort to end the Electoral College's role in picking presidents.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationaljournal.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: allredstates; california; elections; electoralcollege; electoralvote; electoralvotes; national; nationalpopularvote; popular; vote
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Clearly unconstitutional - IMO ...

Check out Bush v. Gore and comments relating to 14th Amendment protection of votes ...

1 posted on 08/09/2011 4:02:48 PM PDT by Lmo56
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I think California is going to regret this in 2012...


2 posted on 08/09/2011 4:05:21 PM PDT by tcrlaf (PREFRONTAL LOBOTOMISTS FOR OBAMA2012!)
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To: Lmo56

Whoah there Nellie!.... they cannot do that!


3 posted on 08/09/2011 4:05:21 PM PDT by Safrguns
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hehehe...hope it backfires on the dems. It would be GREAT to see California vote for Obama, but then hand the votes to a Bachman, or Palin, or Perry.


4 posted on 08/09/2011 4:05:33 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Lmo56

It is mob rule—we are not a Democracy for a reason. There are no minority rights in rule of the majority. It is the same as a lynching party.

Marxists want mob rule—”Feelings” trump intellect with these mental midgets.


5 posted on 08/09/2011 4:05:37 PM PDT by savagesusie (Virtue is a habit of the mind, consistent with nature and moderation and reason. Cicero)
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To: Lmo56

What does the constitution have anything to do with California?


6 posted on 08/09/2011 4:05:43 PM PDT by Jonty30
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The electoral college was put in place s the lesser populated states had a true voice.

There was a time when California was a newbie and the electoral college gave them their voice. The lessons of history.

7 posted on 08/09/2011 4:06:16 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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I don’t see any problem. When Rick Perry wins the presidential election, my state will give him all 55 electoral votes, even though the state went for Obozo. Sounds good to me. CA’s never going to vote for a Republican anyway, so what the heck...


8 posted on 08/09/2011 4:06:36 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Lmo56

Ummmm.... pardon me for the stupid question, but what is the difference between this and voting “Present”????


9 posted on 08/09/2011 4:06:36 PM PDT by Safrguns
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The whole push is to give Big States the numbers to be the ones who set the Agenda.....that’s how it is going to be. Illegals vote with impunity now, but, with an Executive Order prior to the 2012 Election, we will have 30 million “new” Citizens voting Democrat.


10 posted on 08/09/2011 4:06:59 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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Clearly unconstitutional - IMO ...

Check out Bush v. Gore and comments relating to 14th Amendment protection of votes ...


While I wholeheartedly agree that this is unconstitutional, I will say that it may be the only chance the Republican Party has to pick up those electoral votes.

I think if anything, this will come back to haunt the Rats in 2012.
11 posted on 08/09/2011 4:08:08 PM PDT by copaliscrossing (Progressives are Socialists)
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Nah, if an R wins it, they’ll have an emergency meeting and recind the “law”. That’s how they do things.


12 posted on 08/09/2011 4:09:07 PM PDT by Reagan69 (First they came for Sarah Palin and conservatives said nothing...)
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To: Lmo56

“California blows off US Constitution” is how this should read.

How can they do this?


13 posted on 08/09/2011 4:11:07 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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Thanks CA! We will be taking those electoral votes off your hands soon ...lol


14 posted on 08/09/2011 4:12:37 PM PDT by RED SOUTH (If you liked George W. Bush, you will LOVE Rick Perry! Follow me on twitter @redsouth72)
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Nah, if an R wins it, they’ll have an emergency meeting and recind the “law”. That’s how they do things.

Yes, you can bet if it doesn't go the Rat's way, they will be the first in line to get the law struck down as unconstitutional.....lol
15 posted on 08/09/2011 4:12:47 PM PDT by copaliscrossing (Progressives are Socialists)
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Nah, if an R wins it, they’ll have an emergency meeting and recind the “law”. That’s how they do things.

Yeah, that's how they roll. Remember the thing about the Massachusetts Gov appointing their Senator?

16 posted on 08/09/2011 4:12:52 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Lmo56
The National Popular Vote compact is an asinine "reform".

The Electoral College prevents voter fraud, and empowers governments at the most local level. Recall 2000, where the Palm Beach County canvassing board became the most powerful political entity in the country.

The Congressional District Method would make great sense for a state as large as California. It would result in Presidential candidates actually spending time and money in California, rather than just raising money in California.

17 posted on 08/09/2011 4:13:57 PM PDT by magellan
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Whoah there Nellie!.... they cannot do that!

7 states [including mine - MD] have done this. They are banking on the states' plenary right to select the method of choosing their electors as per the Constitution.

BUT, SCOTUS has ruled that [once a stae has granted it's citizens the right to vote for it's electors], 14th Amendment Equal Protection applies. That is, the state CANNOT value the vote of one voter over another.

What the NPV essentially does is this - the state grants the right of it's citizens to vote for it's electors and the winner of the majority vote will be awarded the electors. EXCEPT that [if the NPV in the OTHER 49 states plus the MINORITY within this state goes the other way] the state will strip the winner of the majority vote within the state of the electors and award them to the winner of the NPV.

Certainly SOUNDS like the state is valuing one voter's vote over another ...

18 posted on 08/09/2011 4:15:51 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: savagesusie

If liberal states want votes based on population proportions, why do we need a Senate for??!!!! CA should give up their Senators and just rely on Congress reps to represent them in Wash DC.


19 posted on 08/09/2011 4:16:13 PM PDT by Fee
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How is this unconstitutional? I though a State can decide how it appoints its electors. Whether it determines it based on its citizens’ votes, the nation’s citizens’ votes, a coin flip or the alignment of the planets (it is California) is for it to decide. Since it seems to be the lib states mainly doing this, let ‘em.


20 posted on 08/09/2011 4:17:39 PM PDT by tnlibertarian (Don't mend SS, end it.)
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