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Labor Fight Goes Postal as Unions Rip USPS Cost-Cutting Plan to Slash Jobs, Revamp Benefits
www.foxnews.com ^ | August 12, 2011 | Staff @ FoxNews

Posted on 08/13/2011 9:37:07 PM PDT by Reagan is King

After skirmishes in Wisconsin, Ohio and Indiana, the next big union battle is brewing at your local post office.

The U.S. Postal Service’s two largest unions blasted the financially strapped agency’s proposal to cut as many as 120,000 jobs and pull its workers out of the retirement and health benefits plans covering federal workers for a new benefit systems.

The Postal Service, which is facing a second year of losses totaling $8 billion or more, would need congressional approval for its plan and cooperation from the postal unions, which have contracts that ban layoffs unless Congress intervenes.

But the American Postal Workers Union, APWU, and the National Association of Letter Carriers, NALC, made their opposition clear.

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To: Reagan is King
The Postal Service, which is facing a second year of losses totaling $8 billion or more, ...

They already lost $3 billion in the last quarter. They'll lose more than $8 billion this year.

41 posted on 08/14/2011 1:55:41 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: yup2394871293

Me either, especially after (trying to) deal with the Italian Post Office!


42 posted on 08/14/2011 2:27:36 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: bray

“When clerks are getting 90-100K to sell stamps you know something is wrong. Shut it down.”

It’s not just “clerks”, our USPS has the most ignorant people working there. They make our DMV look efficient.

You couldn’t go down to the rail-yards and pick out a group of more sloven, lazy, ignorant people if you tried, and to top it off, they are the most arrogant group of people I have had to deal with.

I regularly have to send stuff by military mail, and I am regularly treated like scum. This, after standing in line for 30 minutes, because they have 5 windows, and 2 tellers who want to chit chat with folks they know, and who move slower than molasses on an Alaskan morning. Dare you ask any question, you will be given a look like you just ruined their damned day, and then another sloven supervisor, usually more retarded than the person at the teller will attempt to help you, usually by telling you to go online, and read this or that.

Now, my carrier is great. She works hard, is courteous, friendly, and a nice person. She gets a Christmas gift every year from us, but man, our office is chock full of the lowest of the low. How they got jobs there, I have no idea. How they retain their jobs there, I have no idea. But I swear, they wouldn’t be able to dump water out of a boot without instructions on the heel.

No offense to any USPS employees, I’m sure there are some, like my carrier who do a good job, but here where I am at, they are the exception, by far, not the rule.


43 posted on 08/14/2011 2:48:57 AM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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To: Reagan is King

Every delivery day, the local mailman here stops his mail van at exactly the same time opens the rear door and sits in the back of the van reading a book. He is on his break and he NEVER fails to take it. This symbolizes to me, in a nutshell, why the American Labor movement is dying. I don’t give a damn if the mailman has a break built into his contract. I am paying his salary and, as far as I am concerned, he is lazy.


44 posted on 08/14/2011 3:40:56 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: Paleo Conservative

How about ya go to a PRIVATE postal place for a box?
Hell with the post office and their UNION.
Besides if U go to a private place that is owned by a small business owner they will treat ya better than some overpaid postal clown who looks at you with contempt.


45 posted on 08/14/2011 3:51:47 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Don't trust the F.B.I. the C.I.A. and specially the B.A.T.F.)
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To: yup2394871293
I've a good idea.....let's retro-fit all US post offices with banks of COMPUTER TERMINALS....(Refurbished ones, to) you just send your letters EMAIL...if your sendee has no computer he can just send and pick up his 'mail' at the local library, senior citizen center, or other currenly useless gumment ofc..or the gummint can install some type of cheap 'reciever/sender machine' in the computer-less homes that are too far from a libray'. All other mail can be handled by the efficient UPS...FEDEX...and other efficient free marketeers...i think it might save a bundle of taxpayer money ... i say this....because computer terminals wont get salaries, pensions, work comp or unemployment benefits...the taxpayers will get benefits though...SAVINGS benefits. I feel benefitted already....just thinkin' aboudit
46 posted on 08/14/2011 4:00:25 AM PDT by flat
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To: flat

Brought to us by the same people that want to run our health care system.

Nice.


47 posted on 08/14/2011 4:10:31 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Sarah Palin 2012 - Nothing but Net)
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To: Reagan is King
Please don't go on strike, Mr. Postman. I won't get any bills mailed to me!

I'll miss the junk mail addressed to "resident" that makes me feel like someone special.

What will I do right before elections are held?

How will I be able to stay on top of the mudslinging without the wholesale libel and litany of lies and false promises filling my mailbox?

I'll really miss all the thoughtful, personal, hand-written letters all my friends and relatives send me all the time. too.

48 posted on 08/14/2011 4:43:32 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority (Where is the middle ground on insolvency of the United States government?)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
When I go to my mail box each day, it normally contains several pieces of "spam" mail, and one or twice a month, some notice from a utility {pay my bills on-line and get the same notices via e-mail}.

My Golf Magazine, American Hunter and Rush Limbaugh Newsletter are three pieces of mail that I look forward to, but if the USPS stopped delivery, they would be sent using another service.

I can't remember the last time I received a hand written letter or even a personal typed one.

The USPS was a valuable service before the internet and e-communications, and there is still a place for delivery services, but the entire structure needs to be adapted to today's conditions.

We recently needed to ship something to Annapolis and it was Friday.

The overnight {weekend} rate via Fed-Ex was $ 65 while the Monday rate was $16, we decided that they could wait until Monday. Strictly a business decision. If they had to have it on Saturday, I'd have paid the extra dollars.

49 posted on 08/14/2011 5:58:08 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages.)
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To: political1

Why buy and sell stamps in the first place? Why not just meter the mail? The actual metering could be done by a debit card transaction, or even a vending machine, and the printing could be done by a standard computer printer


50 posted on 08/14/2011 6:04:16 AM PDT by jmcenanly ( "We pay a person the compliment of acknowledging his superiority whenever we lie to him." -Samuel)
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To: Reagan is King
Close down the post offices...reduce the days of service for those remaining...and reduce the hours they're open.

No work needed, no labor needed!

51 posted on 08/14/2011 6:13:39 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Paleo Conservative
The USPS is planning on closing several post offices locally.

But they won't lay anyone off. Bet on it.

"The nearest approach to immortality on earth is a government bureau." ... James F. Byrnes

ML/NJ

52 posted on 08/14/2011 6:32:46 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Reagan is King.
...proposal to cut as many as 120,000 jobs and pull its workers out of the retirement and health benefits plans covering federal workers for a new benefit systems... facing a second year of losses totaling $8 billion or more, would need congressional approval for its plan and cooperation from the postal unions, which have contracts that ban layoffs unless Congress intervenes.

53 posted on 08/14/2011 7:07:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Reagan is King

Unions = Parasites sucking the blood from their hosts until they bleed out and then demand more.

Unions are the purest form of Socialism and Communist organizational structure. They destroy their employer’s ability to compete and control cost through a flexible means of dealing with a fluid economy and market.

The U.S. Postal Service is also prime example of any form of government trying to operate a “for profit” business. Due to Political Correctness, it simply can’t be done.


54 posted on 08/14/2011 7:13:51 AM PDT by DH ( Rick Perry 2012...Be proud to be an American once again!)
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To: flat

Computer terminals? I already have a laptop for sending email. No need to go to the post office for that.


55 posted on 08/14/2011 7:16:02 AM PDT by yup2394871293 (R)
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To: yup2394871293
Sorry Yup. Sent you this as a private reply instead of in the thread. I am not awake yet. :-)

Don’t know about you, but getting $22/hour for simple janitorial duties sounds like a pretty damn good deal, benefits or no benefits.

That’s an annual salary of $45,760. Wow. With bennies, that would probably be $60-$65K. I want to be a janitor, but I don’t want to belong to a union. Guess I am out of luck then.

The local USPS near my house, they all shuffle around in slippers. It’s... disrespectful.

56 posted on 08/14/2011 7:41:05 AM PDT by RikaStrom (Pray for Obama - Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take his place of leadership.")
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To: yup2394871293
Maybe the USPS, their rent seeking union friends, and congress could make a deal with the UPS or Fedex.

In my rural (read boondocks) community, when something is sent FedEx or UPS, they drop it off at the post office, who then leaves a rectangular yellow card with the date on it in my mailbox. P.O. clerk said those companies have a deal with the USPS to do that in small communities.

57 posted on 08/14/2011 9:22:50 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: jmcenanly
The actual metering could be done by a debit card transaction, or even a vending machine, and the printing could be done by a standard computer printer.

The USPS has an on-line setup where, after using a credit card, you can print out labels for shipping packages. Some have free Delivery Confirmation; you can insure at an extra cost. I occasionally sell on eBay and it is invaluable. I white glue the label on the box and just drop it off at the P.O. Out here in the sticks, the USPS is invaluable.

58 posted on 08/14/2011 9:33:50 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Oatka

...or they could drop it off a corner store, coffee shop, Walmart, Mailboxes Etc....


59 posted on 08/14/2011 10:12:52 AM PDT by yup2394871293 (R)
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To: All
You know how (if you own a business) the UPS or the FedEx guy or gal comes in to the office sometimes at 6:30 p.m. sweaty, in a hurry, runs in to drop off a package then runs out to speed off in their van to the next stop? When's the last time you saw the USPS postal employee hurry, get sweaty, work after 4:30, etc? Just a thought, maybe there are a few but I can't remember seeing one in a lonnng time.

Fewer unions = Less money = Less Democrats
Less liberal media = Less propaganda = Less Democrats

The Democrats can't survive without either one of the above and especially without both so we know how to defeat them. These battles with these marxist unions are going to shape the future of our country. They need to be dismantled and defunded.

60 posted on 08/15/2011 12:01:43 AM PDT by Reagan is King
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