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Stanford Professor Proves Big Labor Is Reason that Billions Fail to Fix Education
Big Government ^ | 8/22/11 | Don Loos

Posted on 08/22/2011 8:37:05 PM PDT by TruthHound

***VIDEO AT LINK***

Dr. Moe: “If you stand up for kids, you have to oppose this [collective bargaining] Schools get organized by the adults on the basis of interests and concerns that have nothing to do with kids. So, why would you expect that system to work?”

As students head back to school, it is a good time to reflect on why education is failing and continues to fail. Terry Moe, Chairman of the Political Science Department at Stanford, provides a dispassionate and extensively researched book, Special Interest: Teachers Unions and America’s Public Schools, which should become a useful and effective tool for any passionate education reformers. Dr. Moe states and backs it up with 500 pages of text that teacher unions are the biggest impediment to permanent and effective education reform.

Dr. Moe’s research unquestionably shows that America’s children are risk because of their very own teachers’ allegiance to the NEA and AFT unions rather than education. And, until Big Labor’s influence over education is diminished, reform remains elusive.

In his presentation at the Concerned Educators Against Forced Unionism’s (CEAFU) 36th Annual Conference, Dr. Moe stated that his research concludes that it is impossible for any effective education reform to occur with teacher unions as partners in reform. He said that unions have been and will inherently remain the well-financed opposition to education reform. Professor Moe added that in our political system it is easier to block reform than to bring about reform, giving teachers unions an additional edge in preventing changes.

(Excerpt) Read more at biggovernment.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aft; arth; biglabor; california; ceafu; collectivebargaining; drmoe; education; nea; publicschools; schools; teachers; terrymoe; unions
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Thanks TruthHound.
Dr. Moe: "If you stand up for kids, you have to oppose this [collective bargaining] Schools get organized by the adults on the basis of interests and concerns that have nothing to do with kids. So, why would you expect that system to work?" ...Terry Moe, Chairman of the Political Science Department at Stanford, provides a dispassionate and extensively researched book, Special Interest: Teachers Unions and America's Public Schools...

21 posted on 08/27/2011 4:24:37 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: TruthHound
As students head back to school, it is a good time to reflect on why education is failing and continues to fail.

the deliberate dumbing down of america, by Charlotte Thompson Iserbyt is now a free e-book.

22 posted on 08/27/2011 12:53:12 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: ken21
unions are evil.

No, in principle they are not.

they destroy the honor of work.

Only when they are allowed to function as monopolies. As profit making ventures competing in the business of supplying skilled labor, they would be marketing each person to maximize profit. The National Labor Relations Act of 1933 changed all of that.

23 posted on 08/27/2011 12:55:38 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: kearnyirish2; okie01
I think the impact of that is more disastrous in terms of our falling birthrate; if companies couldn’t get women into the workforce they would simply import more Mexicans. If Americans realized how much our birthrate had already fallen, and how many of our under-10 population was Hispanic, they’d overturn the government.

The biggest factor in the falling birth rate is women in the workforce. Women with careers have fewer children.

Large corporations and agriculture in America have a never ending desire for slave labor (or if you prefer, using labor with a much lower standard of living). If they aren't importing illegal aliens they are outsourcing to China, India, the Philippines, Brazil, etc. Women in the workforce have little to do with that. The available workforce has much more than doubled.

And it has little to do with a shortage of labor. Look at how many people are not in the workforce in America. Corporations don't want to pay higher wages when labor is in demand. They get cover from the Federal Reserve's false axiom that higher wages cause inflation. Thus the market is distorted. There is little economic incentive for many people to attain the skills to join the workforce, and there is a disincentive to develop automation that can reduce the demand for labor when slave labor is available.

24 posted on 08/27/2011 1:21:01 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Carry_Okie

you do not think that the destruction of public education by unions is not evil?

you do not think that the election of barack obama by union monies for the purpose of bailing out gm and chrysler unions and their pensions is not evil?

this has been going on for decades. i remember a canadian friend who said he worked at gm canada prior to ww2. the first automatic transmission came out.

the unions were opposed. so, they instructed their members to pocket one bolt per transmission.

iremember seeing the leader of singapore on tv in the 1980s. he said: “we could not have built our nation if we had adversarial unions as the u.s. and britain.

and, that’s it. “adversarial”. unions destroy the honor of work.


25 posted on 08/27/2011 1:43:12 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: ken21
you do not think that the destruction of public education by unions is not evil?

Sure I do, and have done far more than you on this forum to show how to beat that system. Hence, your "rhetorical question" is a straw man. You said ALL unions are evil. That is to attack the unalienable right to free association.

you do not think that the election of barack obama by union monies for the purpose of bailing out gm and chrysler unions and their pensions is not evil?

Straw man lit on fire.

Every "case" you cite presupposes GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED UNION MONOPOLY. Government sanctioned monopolies of any kind are what is evil.

26 posted on 08/27/2011 2:06:40 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Carry_Okie

you’re rude.

no further replies.


27 posted on 08/27/2011 3:16:21 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: ken21
you’re rude.

Spoken by a person who misconstrued everything I said into false accusations. You're lucky I was in a good mood.

28 posted on 08/27/2011 3:51:44 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Moonman62

“There is little economic incentive for many people to attain the skills to join the workforce, and there is a disincentive to develop automation that can reduce the demand for labor when slave labor is available.”

You make good points, but automation is still the ultimate goal because we don’t have enough troops to prop up the slave colonies in Asia. Low-cost slaves overseas still require our support for the colonial administration to keep them down.


29 posted on 08/28/2011 3:14:33 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2
we don’t have enough troops to prop up the slave colonies in Asia.

As long as there are countries with lower standards of living, we don't need to be coercive. In the coming years Africa will be providing the cheap labor.

30 posted on 08/28/2011 10:00:52 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

“As long as there are countries with lower standards of living, we don’t need to be coercive. In the coming years Africa will be providing the cheap labor.”

This doesn’t work; eventually the people in those countries want a standard of living similar to ours, so we have to brand those people “communists” and send weapons for our native business partners to put them down. Africa will not be providing that labor for some time to come; it is disorganized with limited infrastructure.


31 posted on 08/29/2011 3:15:26 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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