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1 Million Dead in 30 Seconds: In an increasingly urbanized world, earthquakes threaten...
City Journal ^ | Summer 2011 | Claire Berlinski

Posted on 08/23/2011 9:08:59 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: freedumb2003

A 7.0 anywhere California not nice but not many dead.

A 7.0 in New York city and total devastation. Likely 100,000+ dead.

An entirely different situation.

Bricks and unreinforced masonry are death in a major earthquake. Both are wide spread on the east coast. Very little remains of it on the west coast. East coasters have every reason to fear earthquakes, earthquakes that would otherwise do little damage on the west coast.


21 posted on 08/23/2011 10:06:33 PM PDT by DB
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To: neverdem
Just be right with God (and Christ).

I mean it.

Every single day.

24/7.

Without fail.

One never, ever knows when these things will hit and will take you away.

22 posted on 08/23/2011 10:08:03 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (De-RINOFICATION of the GOP leadership is Job Number ONE. Let's GIT 'ER DONE!!)
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To: freedumb2003
I lived in Japan for over a dozen years, and the reporting here in northern Virginia is stupidly amusing. For example, here in western Fairfax County, I'd rate the quake as an M3.5, maybe up to M4. All of the Washington news reports are that an M5.8 quake 85 miles away equals an M5.8 in D.C.
23 posted on 08/23/2011 10:10:02 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: gunsequalfreedom
Good ole California with its ever changing and constantly updated building code is taking quakes into account.

LOL. No kidding, every time we have an earthquake, the building department adds more holddowns and shearwalls. But gotta say, it's working.

24 posted on 08/23/2011 10:20:47 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead. BLOAT!)
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To: neverdem

Nothing like a good armageddon, calamity of massive proportions, the smell of burning corpses, we’re all gonna die “news” to help supper digest. And people wonder why happy pills are prescribed like candy.


25 posted on 08/23/2011 10:28:43 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Doomonyou; gunsequalfreedom

I may have a lot of problems with my home town here L.A. But I have to say that when it comes to Earthquake preparedness, we stand #2 to no one. I have seen statistics that basically state that there is no city in the world more prepared than L.A.

I do my part by having water, food and batteries (I could open up my own Radio Shack) for a pretty log haul. In the Northridge quake aftermath I used a camping stove to make my meals for 2 days (but could have lasted 2 weeks) and somehow made it all work OK.


26 posted on 08/23/2011 10:28:57 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: neverdem
If you consider that too strong a claim, try to imagine another way in which bad urban policy could kill a million people in 30 seconds.

"Hyperbole on steroids" is not too strong a response to that statement.

The deadliest earthquake in recorded history killed hundreds of thousands of people, but far short of the "million" you conjured up, and certainly not in 30 seconds. As with most deadlier quakes recorded, the deaths are usually the result of secondary effects of the quake, like tsunamis or landslides, avalanches, buildings trapping victims but not killint them immediately.

Of course, none of the secondary effects can do the damage in 30 seconds.

Of course, urban planning would have had no effect (good or bad) in any great earthquake prior to around 1960, when people like Barbara Boxer were large fish in very small ponds like Marin County California, and the great Goddess of Legislation discovered that any natural disaster, including an ELE event (Extinction-level event) can be prevented by either passing laws forbidding it, or the even easier alternative of prohibiting people to live anywhere, since every square inch of earth is exposed to potential catastrophes 24/7.
Except her own neighborhood, of course.

27 posted on 08/23/2011 10:35:18 PM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: BIGLOOK
Is there a condition known a seismic phobia yet?

Yep.
My sister.
She lives in Alexandria and works in DC.

It took me several hours to get through to her, but when I did, I first checked to make sure she was OK.

Then I asked her if she wanted to come to California where it's safer.

Ha ha?

28 posted on 08/23/2011 11:01:16 PM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: Publius6961

You’re a sadist, Publius. I like that.


29 posted on 08/23/2011 11:04:14 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Our older houses are standing up to quakes far better than the recent ones. Houses are being built too rigid, and the result is foundation ruptures are becoming the rule rather than the exception in California.

Tell that to the residents of the Marina District in San Francisco. The results of the LOma Prieta shake of '79.

Of course, "old' along the east coast is a LOT older than old in San Francisco, where brick has not been used for residential or commercial construction, since 1906.

30 posted on 08/23/2011 11:05:12 PM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: neverdem
The Eastern Seaboard of the US sits in the path of a giant tsunami that could be unleashed at any moment. It almost happened in 1949.
The island of La Palma in the is currently the most volcanically active island in the Canary Islands Archipelago.

The western half of the volcano has an approximate volume of 500 cubic kilometres (120 cu mi) and an estimated mass of 1,500,000,000,000 metric tons (1.7×1012 short tons) If it were to catastrophically slide into the ocean, it could generate a wave with an initial height of about 1,000 metres (3,300 ft) at the island, and a likely height of around 50 metres (164 ft) at the Caribbean and the Eastern North American seaboard when it runs ashore eight or more hours later.

Tens of millions of lives would be lost as New York, Boston, Baltimore, Washington, D.C., Miami, Havana, and many other cities near the Atlantic coast are leveled.

As above, this nearly happened in 1949, the last time it erupted:

In 1949, the Cumbre Vieja volcano erupted at its Duraznero, Hoyo Negro and San Juan vents. During this eruption, an earthquake with an epicentre near the village of Jedy occurred. The following day Rubio Bonelli, a local geologist, visited the summit area and discovered that a fissure about 2.5 kilometers (1.6 mi) long had opened on the eastern side of the summit. As a result, the western half of the Cumbre Vieja (which is the volcanically active arm of a triple-armed rift) had slipped about 2 meters (6.6 ft) downwards and 1 meter (3.3 ft) westwards towards the Atlantic Ocean...

31 posted on 08/23/2011 11:28:47 PM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: TigerClaws

It’s even more impressive when you are IN one of those buildings.

I was on the 27th floor of a downtown Tokyo skyscraper in 2007 when a 6.9 mag quake hit. It’s the closest to being seasick I ever got in my life. Baaaaaaacck and foooooorrth.... baaaaaaaccck and foooooooorth...

After the worst was over, I rushed to the toilets, when I got to the men’s room, I watched in amazement as all the doors on the toilet stalls opened and closed in unison for another minute.

But that, of course, was nothing compared to March 11. I was sure I was going to die then.


32 posted on 08/24/2011 12:41:17 AM PDT by Ronin (Obamanation has replaced Bizarroworld as the most twisted place in the universe.)
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To: freedumb2003
A scene of the damage in DC from yesterday's quake:


33 posted on 08/24/2011 12:52:44 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: neverdem
Manhattan's 125th Street fault

Nice try. We all know its Bush's fault.

34 posted on 08/24/2011 2:44:15 AM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: freedumb2003
I am here in Richmond, VA — the largest metroplex near to the Earthquake today. I am from Los Angeles and was 3 miles from the epicenter of the Northridge Quake.

I'm from Philly. I've felt a few earthquakes there, but we just happened to be visiting relatives in Mineral VA yesterday. Never in my 40 years have I felt anything like that.

No, we're not used to a 5.8 quake. And thank God.

Now what's the Los Angeles reaction to a few days straight of rain again? State of Emergency? ;)

35 posted on 08/24/2011 3:27:21 AM PDT by Claud
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To: neverdem

INDEED.

And, with OThuga in the WhiteHouse, we now have a glaring example of how corrupt Marxist globalist organizations . . . labor union goons . . . educational union goons . . . etc. etc. etc.

are destroying our Constitution, our way of life and many millions of lives—and all set and cocked to destroy 100’s of millions of more lives.

But then . . . that’s the DEPOPULATION goal of the Marxist elites, isn’t it.

Sigh.


36 posted on 08/24/2011 5:31:28 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Rummyfan

#33 - lol! Let’s pray that’s all it ever amounts to in our lifetime and beyond.


37 posted on 08/24/2011 5:43:02 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Just be right with God (and Christ). I mean it. Every single day. 24/7. Without fail. One never, ever knows when these things will hit and will take you away.

You have found the answer

38 posted on 08/24/2011 6:51:21 AM PDT by marbren (I do not know but, Thank God, God knows)
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To: Publius6961

The marina dist was a liquifaction problem, and nothing would have saved those bvuildings. They were built on wet fill.


39 posted on 08/24/2011 7:57:04 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Sarah Palin - 2012!)
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To: Rummyfan

You have an excellent sense of humor. Thanks for the laugh today, I sure needed it.


40 posted on 08/24/2011 8:50:38 AM PDT by diamond6 (Check out: http://www.biblechristiansociety.com/home.php and learn about the faith.)
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