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Almost Everything We're Taught Is Wrong
Townhall.com ^ | August 24 2011 | John Stossel

Posted on 08/24/2011 4:02:43 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: listenhillary

“When and if we are out bred in sheer numbers and Islam is the government, will you say the same? Are you ready then for government enforced morality?”

There is only one true God...your argument is flawed in it’s entirety.


61 posted on 08/24/2011 9:03:31 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: listenhillary

“Lets stick with Christians. Which sect? Where do you draw the line? Will government enforce morality by plucking out the eye that has committed lust?”

There is only one true God...and the laws of God are plain for all of us.

Human reasoning without consideration of God’s laws is what gave us the Holocaust from the Nazi’s and from Communists. It is what gives us millions of abortions per year. It gives us death, perversion, and all sorts of negative actions and behavior. Libertarians seem to think that they are above all that, but truly just become a part of it by their lack of moral compass. Legalizing drugs is a good example of the flaws in their philosophy. So would legalizing blackmail as was put forth in the article. The assumption is that the blackmailer is telling the truth, but just wanting to get paid for not spreading the truth. That is hardly ever the case...I know from experience. Generally blackmailers take a small truth and add a bunch of distortion and lies to make it seem worse. Then they try to extort money so that whomever the blackmailer does not want to get hurt doesn’t get hurt.


62 posted on 08/24/2011 9:09:24 AM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: oyez
Then the educators can not figure why the drop out rate is so high.

Sometimes I think that our educational system exist for the teachers and not the students.

No educators know why the drop out rate is so high, they just hope the suckers don't catch on. BTW, H.L. Mencken was a high school drop out, Thomas Edison only got a far as second grade and Bill Gates was kicked out of Harvard after his Freshman year.

63 posted on 08/24/2011 9:20:21 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: redgolum
If you believe that, you live in a very sheltered world. Bullying ALWAYS happens. The tactics change, but I know of few working adults who have not run into it at their job.

Of course, it happens. The difference is that it is not tolerated. Someone who is bullied on the job has legal options. Likewise, legal action can be taken against a bullying neighbor. The only area in which bullies can act with impunity is at school, where even if the parents know and complain to the school, action is, far too often, not taken. Too often, the attitude is either that it's just kids being kids, or that the victim should just learn to tolerate such treatment. Just because it's kids involved, doesn't mean it shouldn't be taken seriously.

64 posted on 08/24/2011 9:29:47 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: LearsFool
Stossel is a lot of things, but among the things he is not is either an economist. He is a TV journalist. Read his book, Give Me a Break. He tells a lot of stories on himself, how as a crusading young reporter at a local station he campaigned for a law whose unintended consequences made things worse, how he probably engaged in unintentional self-deception during a lawsuit. He has the humility to acknowledge mistakes.
65 posted on 08/24/2011 9:30:18 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: KrisKrinkle
From a purely economic standpoint, it might be better to just kill the blackmailer.

That's fine until another blackmailer steps forward with knowledge of the crime.

66 posted on 08/24/2011 9:34:42 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (O assumes the trappings of the presidency, not its mantle. He is not presidential.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Did I suggest that blackmailing was an appropriate methodolgy? I was responding to the notion that so called rich people prefer paying off someone with affordable cash as opposed to facing the consequencxes of their actions.
I do not buy the argument that blackmail is simply contolled gossip. It is extortion.


67 posted on 08/24/2011 9:40:49 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (O assumes the trappings of the presidency, not its mantle. He is not presidential.)
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To: marktwain

The whole reason for the summer break from school was so kids could work on farm in growing season. Kids SHOULD work for their money. Its just a great thing that they no longer have work to contribute to the family income!


68 posted on 08/24/2011 9:41:07 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Kaslin
Scalping NFL tickets used to be bad! Ticket scalping was outlawed at many stadiums until the NFL figured out how to make money off of fans selling their tickets.

Now those who wish to go to an NFL game can buy tickets on the Internet from other fans right up to a few hours before the game. (you just print out the ticket)

Such has made those dudes who want to scalp tickets outside the stadium akin to buggy whip manufacturers.

69 posted on 08/24/2011 9:48:18 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
The educators can't accept the idea that some kid are self educating or have an inclination to learn with out the repetitive classroom drill.
70 posted on 08/24/2011 9:50:36 AM PDT by oyez ( America is being pimped.)
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To: Walrus
"Wealthy people should only be allowed to cover up their LEGAL crimes ;)"

What is bribing Congress for favors?

Lets stick with "Modern Day Washington Politics" for 200 Alex...

71 posted on 08/24/2011 9:55:45 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Don’t get me wrong - I’m not down on Stossel. I watched a clip of him earlier explaining the “Broken Window Fallacy”, which was very well done. And I enjoyed “Give Me a Break”.

But this “it’s the economy, stupid” inanity has really infected this country...so much so that we end up applauding blackmail.

Maybe we should start saying, “You’re so stupid you think it’s the economy.” When you’re so “smart” that you can’t learn from the simplest truth, that is stupidity indeed. That’s Stossel sometimes, but I suspect it’s his libertarianism clouding his thinking.


72 posted on 08/24/2011 10:13:04 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: exDemMom

Not tolerated? It is the norm for many managers!


73 posted on 08/24/2011 10:36:40 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: oyez

There is almost a complete lack of evidence that the current classroom routine is anywhere near optimal.


74 posted on 08/24/2011 10:36:43 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I spent some time as a military recruiter. All of those who failed to score high enough to enlist had high school diplomas. Those without diplomas generally scored very high and qualified to enlist.

Those who come out of public schooling with an education gained that education despite the best efforts of the public school system.

75 posted on 08/24/2011 10:56:18 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Islam is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: Wpin

How do you erase the ideas held by 1.5 billion people? Do you erase the people or convert them all?


76 posted on 08/24/2011 11:04:55 AM PDT by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: Wpin

Will government enforce morality by plucking out the eye that has committed lust?

Are you sure they wont?


77 posted on 08/24/2011 11:08:33 AM PDT by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: LearsFool
I was reacting to your implication that sound economics is not a factor in preserving a good society. Although not the only factor involved, it is a vital factor. You did not make your assertion case specific, so my response was not case specific.

Whether blackmail equates to sound economics is arguable in itself, so it hardly qualifies as a case specific arguement for or against your assertion.

78 posted on 08/24/2011 11:10:12 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: redgolum
Not tolerated? It is the norm for many managers!

Employees have many legal recourses, and I believe that the laws are becoming more proactive on the matter. If certain employees tolerate being harassed at the workplace, chances are, it's because they don't know their rights.

79 posted on 08/24/2011 1:35:40 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: listenhillary

“How do you erase the ideas held by 1.5 billion people? Do you erase the people or convert them all?”

I think you are confused...God’s laws are universal. We all understand them. You don’t have to erase the “ideas” held by 1.5 billion people...or do you think that they exclude those laws somehow??? Only the bad folks do that...


80 posted on 08/24/2011 2:52:53 PM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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