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1 posted on 08/24/2011 10:44:47 AM PDT by neverdem
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 08/24/2011 10:46:13 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: neverdem
Now, I have no interest in watching my kids waste their time with creationism,

Moral equivalency alert.

3 posted on 08/24/2011 10:48:38 AM PDT by frogjerk (Today is already the tomorrow which the bad economist yesterday urged us to ignore. - HAZLITT)
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To: neverdem

> As a voter, like me, you may find Perry’s view on
> creationism disconcerting and a sign of an unsophisticated > candidate.

I don’t find it disconcerting at all. I find it refreshing. I teach my children that God Created in our home school.

As for being an “unsophisticated candidate”, I’ve had all the metrosexual sophists I can take. I’ll puke if I hear another effete phony playing the highbrow.

I’d rather have someone like Jed Clampett, a mountain man, a hard working man, a simple man with simple tastes, and a Biblical perspective, than the metrosexual pansies that have been running our country into the ground for the past few generations.


5 posted on 08/24/2011 10:54:00 AM PDT by Westbrook
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To: neverdem
I do find it unsophisticated myself, but this is the key whenever some liberal brings it up to me:

But the fact is that the progressives' faith-based devotion to government is far more consequential than Perry's faith-based position on evolution.

THIS. It matters very little, what someone believes about evolution, at least in a political candidate. What matters 1000x more is what they believe about the government and its proper role in society.

6 posted on 08/24/2011 11:03:54 AM PDT by Paradox (Obnoxious, Bumbling, Absurd, Maladroit, Assinine)
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To: neverdem

Obama needs to be asked whether or not he believes that the universe was created by God.


7 posted on 08/24/2011 11:05:57 AM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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To: neverdem
I caught a small portion of an NPR show today which seemed to be discussing Rick Perry and his religious beliefs.

NPR approached it like a trip to the zoo. They wanted to know what Christians believed. They noted that some of the beliefs were pretty wild. Pretty out of the ordinary. They expressed some disbelief that people in an advanced society held on to some of these ideas.

They explored the idea that Christians "hide" their beliefs by using "code words". For example "shedding of innocent blood" means -- gasp! -- abortion. And discouraging "sexual immorality" means that Christians are "anti-homosexual rights". The third point (which seems to have especially bothered NPR) was that Christians are evangelical and seek to persuade non-Christians to become Chrisian. Even Jews! They were astounded that Christians want to see Jews concert to Christianity.

The whole thing was presented as a bizarre cult, and Rick Perry as a cult member.

I'm pretty sure that NPR has never focused on the core beliefs of Islam in quite this way.

8 posted on 08/24/2011 11:07:58 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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Evolution should try becoming mainstream science where best answers coalesce when one observes, measures, replicates by experiment, and computes formulas for a phenomenon. Currently, examinations for many physical events have not reached this four-fold rationality.

One example is String Theory, or the “theory of everything”; everything for atomic, micro-processes. Elegant mathematical models utilize eleven dimensions to unify gravitational, electromagnetic, and nuclear strong and weak forces. Here is computation without experiment, measurement, or observation. Niels Bohr would say, “Yes, yes you have the mathematics. But does it make sense?” Notable critics say scientists utilize mathematics, but inadvertently venture into philosophy or religion.

The other extreme is Macroevolution or Darwinism, where all is observation. Rigorous measurements and experiments would require 1,000 to 10,000 times recorded history. Science advocates contemplate observed phenomenon, and decide evolution explains everything. Yet Macroevolution fails computational testing, with vanishing small probabilities, using Thermodynamics, which covers all macro-processes.

For just one hypothesis assume there are 82,000,000 steps from the first one cell animal to man and 81,999,500 have an absolute certainty of occurring. If the remaining 500 have a 90% probability of occurring, then the chance Macroevolution explains the presence of humans is 0.000000000000000000000013220708.

Advocates could consider natural processes in open systems, as required by natural selection and consistently note increased disorder, release of energy, and increased entropy. Even huge energy inputs result in Katrina, and not the Brooklyn Bridge absent intentionality.

Rigorous debate continues concerning String Theory, but debate is prohibited concerning Evolution. Darwinist advocates contend contrary arguments require intrusion of God. Yet good theologians of desert religions would say a god hedged in by observation, measurement, experiment, and computation ends up equivalent to the Golden Calf the Israelites constructed in the Wilderness. Their God can only be found by mystical, faith encounters.


13 posted on 08/24/2011 11:26:26 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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ping


14 posted on 08/24/2011 11:46:10 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: neverdem
The left sees civilization's salvation in a massive Luddite undertaking that inhibits technological growth by turning back the clock, undoing footprints, forcing technology that doesn't exist, banning products that do, and badgering consumers who have not adhered to the plan through all kinds of punishment...

Up to and including death: No Pressure

18 posted on 08/24/2011 12:45:58 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: neverdem
What he is not looking at is it is the same system of leftest propaganda that is putting out all of this baloney that he doesn't like that brainwashed him into not believing in creationism. For those who are naive the leftist propaganda perspective can seem like the only valid one that there is. It isn't by accident but rather by constant lying and conniving that they have taken over our education system. You really have to ask yourself “Is it possible that there may ways that I too may have fallen under their spell and been brainwashed". For those who believe in “evolution” the answer is “yes”.
25 posted on 08/26/2011 8:33:28 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD Jesus Christ is the antidote, the one and only antidote.)
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