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Crime and the Great Recession: Jobs have fled, lawbreaking hasn’t risen—and criminologists are...
City Journal ^ | Summer 2011 | James Q. Wilson

Posted on 08/26/2011 10:21:59 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem

So crime is rational if one’s perception is distorted by exagerated senses of despair?

I can see some heavy socialist manipulation there.


21 posted on 08/27/2011 6:52:00 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: qaz123

It might have to do with carrying hand guns...


22 posted on 08/27/2011 6:53:20 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: JDW11235

Indeed, I know a cop who says that these are panzies. They only use a gun when they know the other guy does not have one. They come in blazing with guns and when offered resistance with a gun, they run away 99% of the time scared, dropping their weapons.

Thus criminals become antiwar, they drop their weapons, and they may come in with a little knife or in passive aggressive manner without any weapon if they know the victim they are attacking is armed or stronger.

But once they figure there is no resistance, they come in with the guns.

It’s how democrates, ie. liberal Nazis, are operating. Hitler did the same... and all these types used “political” means and perception of inferiority and inoffensivity. But the minute you bring truth and force, they get “offended”.

It’s the bully lazy mentality.


23 posted on 08/27/2011 7:00:24 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: dila813
I think it depends on the city I don’t expect some cities like Houston to ever see that big of a spike in crime .... people routinely keep their peacekeepers handy to resolve anyone wishing to take position of property not belonging to him.

NYC has long had a lower murder rate than Houston. In 2010, Houston had 13 murders per 100K people compared to NYC's 7. Ultimately, tough-on-crime policies combined with the easy acquisition of guns by law-abiding citizens can only do so much. I think demographics and police coverage per square mile are very important. Blacks and Hispanics (90+% of NYC's violent crime) are 50% of NYC's population, and 60% of Houston's population. Police coverage in Houston is much sparser - 9 cops per sq mile compared to NYC's 113 cops per sq mile. Ultimately, I think these are the reasons why on a per capita basis, Houston has violent and non-violent crime rates that are double or more NYC's.

24 posted on 08/27/2011 9:02:51 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: JDW11235
I wonder if there is not a correlation between welfare (and unemployment) benefits and these crime statistics. In the 70’s and 80’s could you collect several years of unemployment? We’re 1/6 people in modern day bread lines (food stamps), having their needs met, receiving Social Security Disability (I just read on another forum applications are in the millions, and have risen greatly over the last few years). It’s one thing to say “Unemployement has risen” (especially with the myriad of ways to manipulate that number) it’s another to say “the people have no money.” Cut off the benefits and see how long crime stays low. I bet it’s minutes.

Actually, there's a theory that welfare benefits increase crime. The main reason? Crime really doesn't pay. Not as well as even the crappiest full time job. Because crime can really only be a part time job. Do it enough to approximate full-time wages, and the criminal will either be arrested by police or killed by a private citizen defending his property.

25 posted on 08/27/2011 9:14:50 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: JDW11235

Thank you.


26 posted on 08/27/2011 9:19:31 AM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Zhang Fei

Read the article, we are talking about property crimes


27 posted on 08/27/2011 9:40:25 AM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813

Houston’s per capita property crime rate is 2 to 6 times NYC’s. Burglary is about 6x:

http://www.city-data.com/city/Houston-Texas.html

http://www.city-data.com/city/New-York-New-York.html


28 posted on 08/27/2011 11:46:44 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: neverdem
James Q. Wilson is one of the few true experts on crime in America. He usually gets it.

What I don't understand is this: the majority of property crimes and crimes against persons are committed by the younger adults. In the US in the 1960's, when crime was rising and attracting headlines, the modal American was in his twenties.

Now, the modal American is over forty, the oldest ever. Not so many forty-plus year-olds out there stealing cars and stirring up trouble. I wonder why criminologists don't report on the obvious age variable, even to knock it down if it doesn't hold.

29 posted on 08/27/2011 11:56:36 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Property crime rates are not rising, they're falling. That's the whole issue:

For 2009, the FBI reported an 8 percent drop in the nationwide robbery rate and a 17 percent reduction in the auto-theft rate from the previous year. Big-city reports show the same thing. Between 2008 and 2010, New York City experienced a 4 percent decline in the robbery rate and a 10 percent fall in the burglary rate. Boston, Chicago, and Los Angeles witnessed similar declines...

30 posted on 08/27/2011 12:11:54 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: neverdem

In my area, crime has definately risen.

Actually punishing those who are guilt has NOT risen.

They keep getting let go without fines or punishment.

That alone helps there statistics. It isn’t helping the victims of all the break-ins.


31 posted on 08/27/2011 1:46:34 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: neverdem

In my area, crime has definately risen.

Actually punishing those who are guilt has NOT risen.

They keep getting let go without fines or punishment.

That alone helps their statistics. It isn’t helping the victims of all the break-ins.


32 posted on 08/27/2011 1:46:43 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: neverdem
Jobs have fled, lawbreaking hasn’t risen—

Looks like this guy has been in a coma for the last couple of years.

He has yet to hear about "flash mobs?"

33 posted on 08/27/2011 2:42:42 PM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Something is wrong with the site for New York, look at nearest cities.

You have to add all of these together to get NY NY

When they talk Houston, you have to check to see if they are including all of it or just the downtown areas, if they did the same thing as Houston, same thing.

You know the number one for violence is El Paso even though right across the border there are mass graves.

Go to the FBI and look at the metropolitan data


34 posted on 08/27/2011 5:35:13 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813

Potential victims have changed their habits, for instance, going to the mall less, shopping in parking lots with cameras like Walmart has. We all know instances of cars getting their windows smashed in broad daylight in the big mall lot.


35 posted on 08/27/2011 6:20:46 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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I definitely am seeing a seedy element popping up all over my town, they are out in force.

I keep the gun loaded and ready to fire.

They eyeball me and I eyeball them back ...


36 posted on 08/27/2011 6:24:13 PM PDT by dila813
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...thugs want helpless victims and do not like the uncertainty that comes with CCW laws.

Crime went down in Florida after conceal carry was passed.

37 posted on 08/31/2011 7:59:35 PM PDT by GOPJ (126 people were indicted for being terrorists in the last two years. Every one of them was Muslim.)
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