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The Plastic Sandwich Bag Flunks
new york times ^ | 10/26/11 | STEPHANIE CLIFFORD

Posted on 08/28/2011 5:27:23 PM PDT by mathprof

Many retailers and schools are advocating waste-free options for back-to-school shoppers this year, especially when it comes to lunch. School lists call for Tupperware instead of Ziplocs, neoprene lunch bags instead of brown paper ones, and aluminum water bottles, not the throwaway plastic versions.

Sales of environmentally friendly back-to-school products are up just about everywhere. At the Container Store, the increase is 30 percent over last year for some items, said Mona Williams, the company’s vice president of buying. “We have seen a huge resurgence,” she said.

The trend makes the schools happy (much less garbage). It makes the stores happy (higher back-to-school spending). It even makes the students happy (green feels good).

Who’s not happy? The parents (what to do when the Tupperware runs out?).

“Ziplocs are the biggest misstep,” said Julie Corbett, a mother in Oakland, Calif., whose two girls attend a school with an eco-friendly lunch policy. In school years past, she said, many a morning came unhinged when the girls were sent to school with disposable sandwich bags.

“That’s when the kids have meltdowns, because they don’t want to be shamed at school,” Ms. Corbett said. “It’s a big deal.”

Schools have been adopting environmentally friendly policies for ecological and budget reasons, and retailers have been rushing to fill the newfound demand with store-front promotions and aggressive marketing. Staples has rows of eco-friendly lunch containers, like an Extreme flap lunchbox case with a compartment for plastic food boxes, and a Yak Pak lunch tote that looks like a purse.

Many of the schools are pushing waste-free lunches, where everything must be either compostable or reusable, in an effort to reduce garbage and the cost of hauling it away.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigoil; education; environmentalism; lunches; oil; parents; plastic; publicschools; schoollunches; schools; tupperware
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To: clearcarbon

clearcarbon: “Disposable bags tend to be reliably clean
and sterile when used to package lunch.”

True, but stop trying to make sense. We’re trying to save the planet here! Ignore the extra energy and water used to clean reusables and the increased risk of bacterial contamination. This is about feelings, not results.


21 posted on 08/28/2011 5:42:35 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Bad is easy. Anyone can do bad. Good, OTOH, is work. It takes discipline.)
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To: Madame Dufarge

I agree. Your post came just after I realized the same thing :)

NYT giving free advertisement in disguise of an article.


22 posted on 08/28/2011 5:43:12 PM PDT by mathprof
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To: mathprof

A side note to the indoctrination issues. Has anyone noticed the World Wildlife Fund has shifted their TV commercials away from polar bears to tigers?


23 posted on 08/28/2011 5:43:27 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Disgusted with the establishment GOP and their enablers.)
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To: mathprof
I began taking a lunch a couple of months ago. (The cafeteria is having a fit. I was listed as a separate profit center.)

I use ziploc bags. I take a couple of diet Mt Dews in the plastic bottle. I pack it all in a plastic grocery bag.

What I take for lunch is much healthier (and immensely cheaper) than I can get at the company store, I can say.

Some colleagues are rabid recyclers, but I was born with a mean, fighting face, so they leave me alone.

24 posted on 08/28/2011 5:43:56 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: mathprof

They don’t want you sending your kid with lunch...it shames kids who’s parents can’t be bothered.


25 posted on 08/28/2011 5:45:02 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: mathprof
The Nazi Green Movement marches on.
26 posted on 08/28/2011 5:45:02 PM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/XX12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Madame Dufarge

she sells baby bottles for older kids?


27 posted on 08/28/2011 5:45:21 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: mathprof

““That’s when the kids have meltdowns, because they don’t want to be shamed at school,” “

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Seems like a learning opportunity.

Parents can teach kids the term “eco-weenie”, the valuable skill of appearing to care while really believing the opposite (a skill they’ll sometimes need later in life, perhaps at work) and most valuable lesson of all - the importance of not caring what eco-weenies say or think.

That would be a very useful lesson. Actually.

No need to turn them into little revolutionaries - but one could begin to start them out with their own independent thought processes.


28 posted on 08/28/2011 5:45:29 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Cut the Crap and Balance!" -- Governor Sarah Palin , Friday August 12 2011, Iowa State Fair)
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To: Rebelbase
A side note to the indoctrination issues. Has anyone noticed the World Wildlife Fund has shifted their TV commercials away from polar bears to tigers?

Haven't seen those commercials. Are the tigers now shown floating away on small pieces of ice?

29 posted on 08/28/2011 5:45:45 PM PDT by mathprof
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To: mathprof

I just weighed some of my sandwich bags, and an airtight plastic sandwich container. The container weighs as much as 60 disposable sandwich bags.

What are the odds that an elementary-school student will remember to bring a sandwich container back home, over 60 times?


30 posted on 08/28/2011 5:46:11 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Fitzy_888

The schools here charge 40 cents for lunch for most kids, discount lunch, they didn’t even make us fill out paperwork or anything this year. But somehow no fat free chocolate milk in elementary??

Insane.


31 posted on 08/28/2011 5:47:16 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Rebelbase
Has anyone noticed the World Wildlife Fund has shifted their TV commercials away from polar bears to tigers?

I guess they finally figured out that tigers kill and eat more people than polar bears.

32 posted on 08/28/2011 5:47:31 PM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: mathprof

HA! No it’s the same sob story about them being killed off, only 3500 of them left world wide, give money to help, etc.


33 posted on 08/28/2011 5:47:38 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Disgusted with the establishment GOP and their enablers.)
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To: Rebelbase

A side note to the indoctrination issues. Has anyone noticed the World Wildlife Fund has shifted their TV commercials away from polar bears to tigers?

I thought it was the endangered and rare Desrt Lions


34 posted on 08/28/2011 5:47:54 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Madame Dufarge
I really like their motivational marketing materials:

Who doesn't need a "Pat on the Back"?

35 posted on 08/28/2011 5:47:58 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Nailbiter

desrt = desert


36 posted on 08/28/2011 5:49:46 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: mathprof

Well, at least they can’t blame my generation for all this hub bub. My dad built an entire room onto our house just to store my mom’s Tupperware. Finally he banned her from going to Tupperware parties. Quite frankly, I was glad to see the invention of the ZIP lock bags. One less thing to fall out of the cupboard. Just in case they try to ban them I have at least a two years supply right next to my stash of lightbulbs!


37 posted on 08/28/2011 5:53:32 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

But it takes heat AND pressure to detonate C4...


38 posted on 08/28/2011 5:53:50 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: mathprof

My kids have enough to worry about carrying with their loaded backpacks.

Brown bags and aluminum foil are great, recyclable, options. Hmmm...isn’t that what we used back in the bad old, unenlightened, days?


39 posted on 08/28/2011 5:53:55 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Average Al
"Just hand the kid a sandwich and have them tuck it under their arm pit or down their pants until lunch. ;-)"

We had wax paper over our sandwiches in brown bags with what ever else would fit in there. There was NO Kenyan Turd back then screwing up the place.

40 posted on 08/28/2011 5:54:14 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Carnival commie side show, started November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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