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Cherokee Nation Revokes Citizenship Rights of Black Slave Descendants
The New American ^ | Monday, 29 August 2011 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 08/30/2011 5:16:20 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer

Just a week ago this Monday, the Cherokee Nation’s Supreme Court ruled that the tribe may revoke the citizenship rights of black members. The case stemmed from a 2007 vote in which the Nation amended its constitution to allow the expulsion of the descendants of Cherokee-held slaves; this inspired a lawsuit by the “Freedmen,” as the black Cherokee are known. A district court found in favor of the Freedmen, but the Supreme Court overturned that ruling, arguing that the Cherokee alone have a right to determine who is and is not a fellow tribesman. The result is that these erstwhile Cherokees, approximately 3,000 strong, will now be denied benefits that inclusion in the tribe affords, such as free healthcare and education, and voting and housing rights.

The Freedman had enjoyed Cherokee citizenship status ever since it was granted through a treaty with the U.S. government after the War Between the States. Previous to this, the Cherokees, along with tribes such as the Choctaw and Creeks, kept thousands of African slaves (additionally, some Indians allied themselves with the Confederacy during the war).

While these facts aren’t generally found in school textbooks, they should surprise no one. Slavery was once ubiquitous throughout the world, and North America’s indigenous people were no exception. For their embrace of the institution predated the white settlers’ arrival; moreover, this event presented new slaveholding opportunities: Some Indians made slaves of Europeans as well as Africans.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: blacks; cherokees; indians; slaves
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This just can't be true! Only white people exclude others! Everyone knows that.
1 posted on 08/30/2011 5:16:23 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
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To: Paladins Prayer

Facts are not popular with some folks. An example -—Africans are not Indians. [American indigenous people]


2 posted on 08/30/2011 5:20:20 AM PDT by texican01
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To: Paladins Prayer
It would seem that descendants of Cherokee would be part of the tribe; as slaveholders sometimes would have progeny with their slaves. I guess it is up to them to decide though.
3 posted on 08/30/2011 5:27:26 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Paladins Prayer

I think that other tribes/nations have standards (percentage of blood) that must be met to be considered a member. I’m thinking that the Cherokee are drawing a line. Might seem unfair on the face of it, but if your great, great, grandad was half-cherokee, then your claim is pretty weak.


4 posted on 08/30/2011 5:36:14 AM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: Paladins Prayer

I guess will see here real quick who’s the top dog in the liberal caste system.


5 posted on 08/30/2011 5:37:19 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Obama/Biden '12: No hope and chump change.)
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To: Tallguy

My great great great great grandmother was Cherokee. Does that count? Just fun to know though.


6 posted on 08/30/2011 5:39:08 AM PDT by Mercat
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... but if your great, great, grandad was half-cherokee, then your claim is pretty weak.

Whose great-great granddad wasn't half-Cherokee?

7 posted on 08/30/2011 5:40:22 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Paladins Prayer

Cherokee people
Cherokee tribe
So proud to live
So proud to die


8 posted on 08/30/2011 5:45:55 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Paladins Prayer

But I thought they were noble savages much better than the white European scum that despoiled this contry.


9 posted on 08/30/2011 5:46:50 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: texican01

Another fact: Native American tribes routinely “adopted” outsiders - people who were from other tribes, and even some Europeans - after which they were considered as much “Indian” as the blood-members of the tribe that “adopted” them. The so-called “blood quantum” rules for tribal membership are the creation of white Europeans, who had their own, inimical, reasons for categorizing individuals as Indian or non-Indian, and those rules were eventually forced upon (or in some cases adopted by) the tribes. Absent the blood-quantum rules, these folks would be considered full members of the tribe, regardless of their original heritage.


10 posted on 08/30/2011 5:46:50 AM PDT by Oceander (The phrase "good enough for government work" is not meant as a compliment)
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To: Paladins Prayer

Franklly, I think it is time to disgard the tribal concept and funding. Let the Indians keep the land they were bequethed, but no more indian nation. Have them be governed by US law.


11 posted on 08/30/2011 5:46:55 AM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: Paladins Prayer

These folks must enjoy sticking a stick in a hornets nest because that’s exactly what they’ve just done!


12 posted on 08/30/2011 5:47:07 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Paladins Prayer

That’s racist, Kemosabe.


13 posted on 08/30/2011 5:47:34 AM PDT by shove_it (It's either Obama or America. There cannot be both.)
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To: Paladins Prayer

Hey, you think the Cherokees are going to share that casino $$$$$ with anyone they don’t have to??? The blacks were their “brothers” until there was real money involved.


14 posted on 08/30/2011 5:48:07 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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Excluding anyone who is not 100% is a Cherokee thing. My sister married a Cherokee. She died 2 years ago and the tribe revoked the Cherokee status of her 2 kids, because they weren’t 100% pure.
They receive nothing from the tribe. Cherokees are first class bigots.
I think this is all about sharing the casino profits.


15 posted on 08/30/2011 5:50:32 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (2012 is the opportunity to get rid of Obama and his Empire of Lies.)
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To: Paladins Prayer

Follow the money.

My then 8 year-old son remarked to an 8 year-old Cherokee girl he was trying to befriend that his great-great-granddad’s mother was Cherokee. Her reply: “The white Indians don’t get no money.” No eight year-old comes up with that on his/her own.


16 posted on 08/30/2011 5:51:02 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Very good question ~ maybe some of these guys who come up from Mexico ~ they don't look all that Cherokee to me.
17 posted on 08/30/2011 5:51:16 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Paladins Prayer

Indians had slaves??? Next, they’ll be saying that blacks had slaves. Or worse, that black Africans sold other blacks into slavery. What is up is now down...

BTW, Will the blacks be allowed to work in the casinos?


18 posted on 08/30/2011 5:51:26 AM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: Paladins Prayer

After greater than 150 years, even the Cherokees don’t want them. Sad....


19 posted on 08/30/2011 5:51:51 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: King Moonracer

20 posted on 08/30/2011 5:53:56 AM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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