Posted on 09/03/2011 1:18:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
The news of Governor Rick Perry jumping into the Republican nomination race for president released a media tsunami that assaulted my brain. In no time at all, people came up with a long list of negatives about him. In a democracy, honest and thorough scrutiny of anyone's records seeking a public office is not only the prerogative of the electorate, but its duty.
Being a lifelong critic of Islam, red flags popped up in my head at Perry's purported cozy relationship with Islam and prompted me to look very closely at the governor's record on this particular issue and at this specific time.
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The nuggets of the Muslim history curriculum Perry helped coordinate in Texas are summarized below. It says:
1. Countries of Western Civilization have secular governments, which means great toleration of cultural and religious differences.
2. Countries of Islamic Civilization for the most part either have religiously dominated governments or demands to make them more religious, which means less toleration of cultural and religious differences.
3. Muslims often lack respect for Western traditions and points of view. The Muslim relationship to the West is colored by the belief that Western beliefs [whether Christian or atheist] are defective and therefore inferior to Islam.
No matter how I tried, I couldn't reach the conclusion that this inclusion promotes Islam or is pro-Sharia. It seems that the mere fact that Islam is included in the curriculum represents supporting it.
And with regard to the concern that the education curriculum Perry promoted is pro-Arab and against Israel, the evidence is exactly the opposite. The lesson on Israel reads:
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Criticism flew Rick Perry's way fast and furiously and from all directions. Here, Alana Goodman in Commentary bats a big one down......
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Gov. Perry Received Defender of Jerusalem Award Thursday, August 13, 2009
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June 29, 2011: ...."Perry wrote in a letter dated Wednesday, According to numerous recent media reports, American citizens and organizations, together with a coalition of violent anti-Israeli organizations from other countries, have organized efforts to breach Israels Maritime blockade of the Gaza Strip as early as this week.
He continued, The act of funding, supporting, organizing and engaging in these efforts appears to constitute participation in a naval expedition against a people with whom the United States is at peace, as well as material support or resources to a foreign terrorist organization and other violations.
Perry said at least two of the ships are registered in Delaware, including one named The Audacity of Hope, which was the title of President Barack Obamas second book.
The letter concludes, I respectfully request that the U.S. Department of Justice take immediate steps to investigate, enjoin and bring to justice all parties found to be in violation of U.S. law by their participation in these efforts. Source
August 24, 2011: How Rick Perry helped stop the Gaza 'freedom flotillas' .>>>>"I once spoke at a mission that Perry took part in, in Israel," Darshan-Leitner recently told Commentary's Alana Goodman. "And he approached me and said, 'I love what you do. It's amazing what you do. If you ever need help combating Israel's enemies, I'm here to assist.' "
Perry made good on that promise in July, when a cohort of liberal activists boarded a Gaza-bound aid boat with the goal of breaching Israel's maritime blockade of the Gaza strip.<<<
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This animal scratching in the snow for a bite of grass, nicely represents the death of the (now totally ineffectual) term RINO and the RINO brand, clearing the path ahead for a conservative ascendancy led by Rick Perry.

Rick Perry and ACORN, not a RINO

Rick Perry with Aga Khan not a Rino

Not a RINO Rick Perry with Vincente Fox...

not a Rino, an Idol.
The piece in American Thinker seems to debunk the pro-islamist claims. Am I missing something? Is there a credible refutation of the poits found in the article?
Rick Perry is a long-time, actively working conservatve governor of a state with over 25,000,000 people.
The ACORN picture you have prominently displayed is from 2005, when the ACORN that we know today was unknown.
And your inflammatory headline under the picture of Perry and Aga Khan is a testament that yellow journalism lives.
Texas, being a border state sharing a 1250 mile international border with America’s Number 1 trading partner, it makes sense that Gov. Rick Perry would know and work with Mexican presidents.
Regarding vetting for a 2012 presidential pick, there is only one person held in reverence and complete adulation by hopeful supporters.
Rick Perry is a hard working candidate for the GOP Primary and he is doing a good job proving himself to the votes.
It would seem Perry got misconscrewed on this one.
It’s tiring to hear the same old same old from Tempest (with stormy eyes which flash at the sound of lies) slapping up any smear on Perry without even checking the facts. The boy who cried wolf too often comes to mind.
“The piece in American Thinker seems to debunk the pro-islamist claims. Am I missing something? Is there a credible refutation of the poits found in the article?”
Links here. I haven’t read them, and am not following this debate. Anyone wants to flame me for responding to your question - fine - waste your time if you want.
"He's also my dream candidate for 2012!"
Kinky Friedman sells Rick Perry to Imus.
http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/1116577061001/can-perry-take-1600-pennsylvania-ave/
Amusing.
He does not claim to be correct 100% of the time, and on this one he is a hundred percent wrong, like many times before. Perry is no conservative and no conservative would vote for an open borders , amnesty loving clown like Perry.
BTW, as a long time lurker, I remember that Amil Imani was once a Freeper but I can't remember his name on FR or I would give him a courtesy ping.
Thank you for adding that information RR.
You must be getting your talking points and material from the DNC - it’s obvious you aren’t doing any research to verify your claims. A few pictures, two with made up captions, do not a RINO make any more than 12 years on Free Republic a reasonable, thinking “political analyst” makes...
Gov. Perry Received Defender of Jerusalem Award Thursday, August 13, 2009
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I didn’t even know there was such a thing, but I want one!
Attached is the link to the Curriculum that the teachers are intructed to use in the classroom in Texas..
If you have read anything on the History of Islam and Muhammad, then please “scroll” down to the actual curriculum and read... not all of it factually complete is it?
I believe History of the past, with ALL of the mistakes , should be taught to our children. Not just what we would “like” them to believe. It will help them to perhaps NOT repeat the mistakes of the past..
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/08/here-is-the-aga-khanrick-perry-curriculum-scrubbed-from-the-web-cache-scrubbed-from-google-search.html
Thanks for those links. Very, very interesting. HOORAY Robert & Pam!
So I will submit this in rebuttal:
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"Epitaph for Salon and Pam Geller's Discredited Rick Perry Meme"
By No-Name Asshat (aka David Stein)
"Okay, I promised I wouldnt devote any more time to Pam Gellers completely false claim that Rick Perry forced Texas public schools to use a pro-Sharia curriculum. But theres something about being called a no-name asshat that makes a man want to take to his keyboard to update his Facebook page with that amazing new nickname (to me, No-Name Asshat conjures up images of Clint Eastwoods man with no name character from Sergio Leones Spaghetti Westerns a gunslinger with no past, no name, and an asshat).
But seriously, I wouldnt be writing any more about this matter had Geller (and Robert Spencer) not viciously attacked Ace of Spades, Commentary, and RedState for their positive coverage of my Rick Perry pro-Sharia debunking. The Geller/Spencer attacks were so vicious and unwarranted, I thought it was only right to devote one more post to the subject (a post that I sincerely hope will serve as a timeline of, and epitaph for, a discredited meme).................................."
I can remember a time when the Lamestream Media came out with a slam dunk connection between Sarah Palin and an African Witch Doctor from Kenya, complete with videotaped proof of him standing over her in ritualistic grandeur with people holding her to the ground, while casting a spell against the evil eye and to raise funds for her campaign...the only thing lacking was a bone in his nose, half naked in a grass skirt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwkb9_zB2Pg
It was easy to find information that Rev. Muthee is an ordained Christian minister in Africa, whose work is supported by her church in Alaska. And in fact, Rev. Muthee has a record of having cast ‘out’ witches in his church community.
I also remember Freepers going bat spit hysterical in her defense, even though the many on here are professed non-believers. MY HOW THINGS CAN CHANGE IN A HEARTBEAT. Especially in the face of the fact that she hasn’t even declared a candidacy, and Rick Perry has.
I stand in amazement and amusement of the willingness of those that will pick up the same bucket of democratic garbage and gossip against Rick Perry and put it out here and argue it as the TRUTH! Even though Texans have stood by his conservative record, again, BECAUSE Rick Perry has the same record of PROVEN SUCCESS in his state for going on ten years as Sarah Palin had in her three.
Aga Khan has been doing business in Texas since long before Rick Perry came on the scene for about 50 years now. He’s one of the very fewest Muslims, maybe the only one, on the planet who has invested his personal fortune into educating his people up out of their ignorance and control of their dogma. Especially on issues of women’s rights, including women’s health and careers.
Thank you Cincinnati’s Wife for keeping a cool and honest head and helping set the record straight for our governor.
I’m going to be following this issue closely from here on out. That curricula is very disturbing to me. I’ve been willing to cut Perry some slack on the Ismaili rapproachment, but if that curricula is something that has been cooked up in the bowels of the education establishment *and* actually implemented in Texas, I have a big problem with Perry.
And I have an even bigger problem with this primary season because as the only other Republican I can envision beating Obama, Romney may actually have to be under consideration by me. That makes me angry. Very angry.
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“Your tag line is silly and destroys your credibility.”
And makes Tempest look like an uninformed bozo. Lemme guess...a Palinista?
IF Sarah enters the race... it is a game changer”
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You make good points. A person in high political office must meet hundreds of people every week, and give them a photo op as well. If Perry would not receive visiting dignitaries, like the Aga Khan, and be civil to them, there would be something wrong with him.
It may very well be that, before this campaign is over, Rick Perry will have done or said something that causes me to rethink my support for him. But seeing pictures of him with people we don’t like isn’t convincing at all. I mean, it’s like showing a photo of Ronald Reagan with Gorbachev to imply he was a commie-lover.
Yes, Pam Gellar slams this guy, Perry is a flip floppin rino just like Romney
Who is the conservative candidate, or potential candidate? Oh that is right, I have asked you that already and all I got was crickets. You can tell me who is a RINO but you cannot tell me who is NOT a RINO and explain why, your credibilty is zero.
Amen to that. What a spectacle it has been here.
What do those pictures have to do with Gov. Rick Perry?
Were you trying to make a point?
Yes you are. The article indicates a naïve attitude about Islam. Lets look at just a small sample of what their holy book demands of all Muslims.
Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89
When you fight with disbelievers, do not retreat. Those who do will go to hell. 8:15-16
Those that the Muslims killed were not really killed by them. It was Allah who did the killing. 8:17
Those that the Muslims killed were not really killed by them. It was Allah who did the killing. 8:17
Fight the disbelievers! Allah is on your side; he will give you victory. 9:12-14
The "Religion of Truth" (Islam) must prevail, by force if necessary, over all other religions. 9:33
Fight the disbelievers and hypocrites. Be harsh with them. They are all going to hell anyway. 9:73
Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 9:123
If you refuse to fight for Allah, he will punish you with a painful doom. 48:16
Those arent for just the radical Muslims as some would try to get us to believe. All Muslims must adhere to those edicts. While there are those Muslims who have not actively engaged in Jihad they will when their numbers and influence are sufficient in any society. Its the concept of colonization that works to increase their numbers in societies until they have sufficient influence.
Its naïve at best to think any Muslim inclusion in a free society is non threatening.
Then look at this statement from the article. Notice the word obligation.
Ismailis also owe allegiance to their countries as a fundamental obligation.
Who knows. More like a Paulistinian. I’d vote for Palin over Perry in a heart beat. When it gets down to the nitty gritty I’m voting for whomever opposes the great zero.
From the Stein article: “...certain minorities within Islam have developed a non-literalist, even allegorical, approach to reading the Quran. Foremost among these moderates are the Isma`ilis, the Sevener Shi`is, whose global head is the philanthropical Aga Khan. Ismailis may number only in the tens of millions (out of the total Muslim community of some 1.3 billion, second only to Christianitys 2+ billion), but they do exist and they define, for example, jihad not as killing or conquering unbelievers, but as economic development and charity work.”
These are the moderate Muslims the West needs to offer an alternative to radical, terrorist Islam. Perry was drawn to the moderates and recognized the moderates offer compatibility with Christians in civil life.
Here’s the math:
Facts - context = propaganda
Moderate muslims...do not exist.
You realize you lose all credibility on everything else you post when you say “Rick Perry is to the left of Nancy Pelosi”.
I guess your friends and family aren’t going to tell you that, but it’s true.
In 2005 I certainly knew who ACORN was. I can’t believe that Gov. Perry did not.
“Those truly concerned about Islamic tendencies would be well advised to stay out of the weeds and focus on the real peril, the re-election of the most anti-Israel pro-Muslim president. This nation is in peril. Sometimes the ‘perfect’ must be sacrificed on the alter of the ‘better.’”
Very well, - extremely well, said. I would add to the last sentence, especially when it comes to politicians. I agree entirely, not withstanding the fact I am a very strong supporter of Israel.
I believe Geller is sincere. I don’t mean on just this issue, like I said I haven’t gotten into it. But I’ve read enough by her (I am on the Atlas Shrugs mailing list) to believe she has no hidden agenda. She is straight up pro-USA, pro Israel, pro Jewish, anti-Muslim. If she is opposed to Perry, it is on the basis of those core concerns.
That begs the question of course of who she thinks could win and would be a better choice - something I don’t recall her ever taking a stance on. I don’t recall anything close to an endorsement of any potential or declared canditate.
“And I have an even bigger problem with this primary season because as the only other Republican I can envision beating Obama, Romney may actually have to be under consideration by me. That makes me angry. Very angry.” Well @ least McCain isn’t running. He’s a Maverick.
I read the email exchange between Stein and Geller. Neither knew what was being taught in the schools. They had a spat over whether an anonymous source quoted by Geller existed. I’m a sucker for style; however, Geller’s shrill responses to Stein’s comments causes me to question whether she is a reliable source or an idealogue.
Well I figured it’s about as outrageous as when people say that Rick Pherry is a solid conservative.
LOL! Good pic. I’m not a Perry fan so post away.
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