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To: Tempest

The piece in American Thinker seems to debunk the pro-islamist claims. Am I missing something? Is there a credible refutation of the poits found in the article?


5 posted on 09/03/2011 2:07:18 AM PDT by Vevey
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To: Vevey

It would seem Perry got misconscrewed on this one.

It’s tiring to hear the same old same old from Tempest (with stormy eyes which flash at the sound of lies) slapping up any smear on Perry without even checking the facts. The boy who cried wolf too often comes to mind.


7 posted on 09/03/2011 2:20:21 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Vevey

“The piece in American Thinker seems to debunk the pro-islamist claims. Am I missing something? Is there a credible refutation of the poits found in the article?”

Links here. I haven’t read them, and am not following this debate. Anyone wants to flame me for responding to your question - fine - waste your time if you want.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/09/intellectual-dishonesty-of-the-perry-posse.html


8 posted on 09/03/2011 2:25:32 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: Vevey

Attached is the link to the Curriculum that the teachers are intructed to use in the classroom in Texas..
If you have read anything on the History of Islam and Muhammad, then please “scroll” down to the actual curriculum and read... not all of it factually complete is it?
I believe History of the past, with ALL of the mistakes , should be taught to our children. Not just what we would “like” them to believe. It will help them to perhaps NOT repeat the mistakes of the past..
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/08/here-is-the-aga-khanrick-perry-curriculum-scrubbed-from-the-web-cache-scrubbed-from-google-search.html


18 posted on 09/03/2011 3:37:22 AM PDT by 56newblog (Registered Islamophobe)
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To: Vevey

Yes, Pam Gellar slams this guy, Perry is a flip floppin rino just like Romney


31 posted on 09/03/2011 5:38:29 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: Vevey
>> Am I missing something? Is there a credible refutation of the poits found in the article?

Yes you are. The article indicates a naïve attitude about Islam. Let’s look at just a small sample of what their holy book demands of all Muslims.

Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89

When you fight with disbelievers, do not retreat. Those who do will go to hell. 8:15-16

Those that the Muslims killed were not really killed by them. It was Allah who did the killing. 8:17

Those that the Muslims killed were not really killed by them. It was Allah who did the killing. 8:17

Fight the disbelievers! Allah is on your side; he will give you victory. 9:12-14

The "Religion of Truth" (Islam) must prevail, by force if necessary, over all other religions. 9:33

Fight the disbelievers and hypocrites. Be harsh with them. They are all going to hell anyway. 9:73

Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 9:123

If you refuse to fight for Allah, he will punish you with a painful doom. 48:16

Those aren’t for just the “radical Muslims” as some would try to get us to believe. All Muslims must adhere to those edicts. While there are those Muslims who have not actively engaged in Jihad they will when their numbers and influence are sufficient in any society. It’s the concept of colonization that works to increase their numbers in societies until they have sufficient influence.

It’s naïve at best to think any Muslim inclusion in a free society is non threatening.

Then look at this statement from the article. Notice the word “obligation”.

Ismailis also owe allegiance to their countries as a fundamental obligation.

36 posted on 09/03/2011 6:32:32 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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