You’ve got to understand, the anti fence clowns use the strawman argument that a fence wouldn’t be enough. That much is true but no one is saying a fence is the only thing needed.
There needs to be real enforcement and patrol as well. Unfortunately, you’ll find they have plenty of arguments against those measures as well.
The border fence at San Diego (Duncan Hunter’s fence) has been quite effective. Obviously not 100% effective but no fence could be.
Don’t want to offend their illegal nannies.
I am not a clown. That is a liberal trick attacking the person instead of the position. It shouldn’t fly here on Free Republic. I am as conservative as they come but I am also pragmatic. Did you read the post about the length of the border and the terrain. What part of the recently discovered runway of tunnels did you miss. Don’t pour money and resources into something that won’t work, find a plan that has a likelihood of success by exploiting what we know about human nature. People will do anything to get a better life for their families. They are willing to die by the scores, face rape along the way by their coyotes and the possibility of being exploited as sex slaves. The fence doesn’t exist that can stop people from getting in with that level of desperation. I think people that go on about fences are looking for the easy solution, a straightforward response that will stop the problem, but it is the path to hell, money will be wasted, people will die, contractors will bilk the Gov’t and illegals will flood the country.
We need to recognize that there are some jobs like picking berries that Americans are not willing to do in the numbers we need. So we need visas for workers, tied to actual job requests filtered through state and local government. If there are Americans who want those jobs visas will not be requested by the companies. If we get our country back on track there will be jobs again that do not require us to become migrant workers. Our quotas for legal immigration are politically skewed and invite in people that do not have skills we need. That practice should be addressed. We need to enforce the laws on the books and stop supporting people who are here illegally. It is at the point that they are demanding their rights when they have none.
If a candidate mentioned those things but said he was willing to quadruple the border patrol and ICE,set up hundreds of dedicated immigration courts for speedy deportations, and build enough detention centers to hold 10,000 at a time, and pay for it by taking from the Dept of Ed, Energy, HHS, and EPA budgets, then I'd vote for him.
But Perry's not saying that because he doesn't oppose the fence because it's a fence. He opposes it because he's a typical globalist, open border type.