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State of the unions: How public opinion turned so sharply and suddenly against worker groups
The New York Post ^ | September 4, 2011 | Maureen Callahan

Posted on 09/11/2011 5:12:05 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

This summer, something remarkable happened: 45,000 Verizon workers went on strike, and no one — save a few customers dealing with service interruptions — much cared.

The communications behemoth wanted more than 100 concessions on health care, pensions, sick days and outsourcing. Unions representing the workers said Verizon sought to void 50 years of collective-bargaining gains for middle-class workers, despite posting a 2.8% jump in revenue in the second quarter, up to $27.5 billion.

Thirteen days later, those on strike went back to work on good faith, the company guaranteeing nothing other than continued talks.

It’s an indictment of how anemic the labor movement in America has become, how irrelevant to the average worker that, even in this ever-contracting economy, the lower and middle classes couldn’t be agitated to care.

And why should they? Private-sector unions in the US are nearly extinct, having long ago abandoned an unwinnable fight against big business. Meanwhile, public-sector unions are thriving by comparison, even though public opinion has been on the decline since the rise of unions in the 1930s, when 72% of Americans had a favorable view of them.....

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economy; publicsectorunions; publicunions; unemployment; unions; unionthugs; verizon
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1 posted on 09/11/2011 5:12:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Public sector unions simply rape the people of every town, county and state to pay for exorbitant benefits and monstrous pensions.


2 posted on 09/11/2011 5:16:53 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Pigs get fat. Hogs get slaughtered.”


3 posted on 09/11/2011 5:17:50 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OMG - I could only get through about a page and a half. This is written from the point of view that unions are great and only the increased meanness of the private sector and a few strategic miscalculations on the part of union leadership are the reasons unions are in trouble.

The give away phrase is “public sector unions, who are subsidized IN PART by taxpayers...” Huh? In part? Which part is not?

Maybe it got better at the end, but I was feeling queasy.


4 posted on 09/11/2011 5:24:05 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

New York is New York.


5 posted on 09/11/2011 5:25:16 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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since the rise of unions in the 1930s, when 72% of Americans had a favorable view of them

Maybe people viscerally figured out what academic studies have now shown-- that union and union-promoting government policies had a hand in causing and prolonging the depression. Like the Solyndra debacle now, where "3000 union construction workers working two shifts/ day 6 days a week" undoubtedly chewed through a large part of the $500m that Obama advanced to a company that never made a dime.

6 posted on 09/11/2011 5:26:21 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Sacajaweau

That day is almost over. Like McMansions, Hummers, No Doc Refis and going out to eat, we can’t afford that anymore.


7 posted on 09/11/2011 5:27:20 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You are right, but normally the Post is better than this. Of course, normally they have short editorials too. This one was plain strange.


8 posted on 09/11/2011 5:29:49 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
The communications behemoth wanted more than 100 concessions on health care, pensions, sick days and outsourcing. Unions representing the workers said Verizon sought to void 50 years of collective-bargaining gains for middle-class workers, despite posting a 2.8% jump in revenue in the second quarter, up to $27.5 billion. Thirteen days later, those on strike went back to work on good faith, the company guaranteeing nothing other than continued talks.
It's a strange bedfellows phenomenon -- the left wing began as vociferously pro-union and pro-organizing (and pro-strike, pro-violence); but there's no room in the single party state for powerful entities which are not controlled by the single party, so independent unions had to be completely dominated. That didn't work -- unions acted on behalf of members (often a.k.a. member greed).

The OPEC embargo manufactured stagflation, opening another window of opportunity for left wing partisan takeover of unions, but it also pushed jobs into low-wage countries in eastern Asia.

The party-line rhetoric and alliances and agenda brought into power under the guise of things like "Fight Back workshop" etc accompanied the continuing erosion of union membership, wages, jobs, and a precipitous rise in the fingerpointing toward corporations, and strengthened the grip of the partisan demagogues.

Public sector (paper-pushing do-little make-work jobs) in gov't are going the same way as private sector organized labor, with the difference that outsourcing remains inside US borders, and is under control of Congress.


9 posted on 09/11/2011 5:32:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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What’s interesting is that when you talk to people from NY, not Manhattan, a good number of them all say they vote republican and they’re conservative. But almost all are connected to a union of some sort or have a family member that is. So, no matter where they may stand on certain issues, a very large majority have a stake in the unions presence.


10 posted on 09/11/2011 5:38:58 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Public Sector Unions are the ones that most need to be sharply curbed. They are sucking the life out of Cities, States and the Country. Other than the members themselves few would care.


11 posted on 09/11/2011 5:41:50 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The cemeteries of the world are filled with indispensable people.

In this world, if you don’t like your job someone will step up and take it.


12 posted on 09/11/2011 5:48:56 AM PDT by sbMKE
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Even the Department of State, 15,000 employees authorized strength by Congress, has a Union to fight for employee benefits. Last few years they fought to get the Washington DC Locality Pay for employees living overseas, drawing their Cost of Living Allowances, Hardship and Differential payments (if authorized). So while working in Brazil with 50% COLA (formula benefit and not acutal percentage of pay) and 10% Differential (due to crime which is straight 10%), and approximatley 15% of the 26% Washington Locality pay. Personally, I urged the Union against this bargining but they prevailed - yes, I am better paid but the Foreign Service already gave me types of pay to offset my hardships or due to the weak dollar (abit not actually enough), it helped. Sometimes the Union will helps individuals with Grivances which is what I think their actual role should be - e.g., somewhere inbetween EEO and Inspector General for helping employess who have bad coworkers or managers/supervisors. The US Government already has a pretty good set of incentives for all employees.


13 posted on 09/11/2011 5:50:52 AM PDT by Jumper
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I had a lengthy talk about this strike with a Verizon manager a week ago at a family function. The workers on strike acted very dishonorably, such as sabotaging fiber lines, damaging vehicles of Verizon managers and threatening them with violence. In one specific example, striking workers spit upon and threw objects at "managers" entering and exiting a Verizon facility in Massachusetts. Only problem: Those weren't Verizon managers, they were workers from another company that happened to be sharing office space in the same building as Verizon. Oops.

Verizon upper management are now taking steps to ensure they are not put in this situation again.

For one thing, many of the lower level managers are receiving refresher training on things like fiber so that next time the workers go on strike, managers will be able to handle most of the service tickets. They are also investing heavily in security, such as surveillance cameras at fiber facilities so that it is more likely that saboteurs will be caught red-handed. Many of the striking workers who misbehaved during the past strike have already been fired and Verizon is taking a zero tolerance policy on this matter.

Long term, it appears that Verizon is taking steps internally to make these union workers non-essential so next time they go on strike, Verizon might not be as inclined to take them back. Most Verizon managers are working overtime to clear up the open tickets (from the strike) and train themselves to do the job so they can train new workers themselves should it come down to it.

I say good riddance to these union thugs.

14 posted on 09/11/2011 5:59:59 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Waiting for Palin)
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It is the Public Employee Unions who have generated the negative Public Opinion.

Obama’s Storm Troopers have not helped the Public’s Opinions of the Master Community Organizer.


15 posted on 09/11/2011 6:03:03 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Private-sector unions in the US are nearly extinct, having long ago abandoned an unwinnable fight against big business

Really? Someone tell that to the Free Traitor battalion that lurks on FR that the war on Union-ism is over. Oh yeah, I forgot about over regulation, one red herring left for the Free Trade crowd to wave in our face.

16 posted on 09/11/2011 6:10:57 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

It’s also written from the viewpoint of a 5th grader who is, at best, a C student.


17 posted on 09/11/2011 6:11:58 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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Sounds about right: liberalism is childishness and mediocrity if nothing else....


18 posted on 09/11/2011 6:13:07 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: C. Edmund Wright

” was flourishing in the public sector largely due to labor powerhouses such as the AFL-CIO and the UAW”

At least it’s truthful , identifying United Auto Workers as “public sector.” I’m not sure whether that’s “/sarc” or not.


19 posted on 09/11/2011 6:18:33 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A 24% drop over 80 years is ‘so sharply’?


20 posted on 09/11/2011 6:19:40 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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