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Perry comes under fire at the CNN/Tea Party Debate
CNN ^ | 9/12/11 | Peter Hamby

Posted on 09/12/2011 7:57:15 PM PDT by Kartographer

Edited on 09/12/2011 8:50:42 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Perry repeatedly found himself in the crosshairs, as the field of candidates took turns attacking his positions on illegal immigration, Social Security, and his controversial 2007 push to vaccinate Texas schoolgirls against human papillomavirus, a common sexually transmitted that can lead to cervical cancer. Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, whose standing among Republicans has slipped dramatically since Perry entered the race, said she was "offended" by Perry's executive order, which included an opt-out provision for parents who did not want the vaccine.


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KEYWORDS: captaingardasil; perry
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To: RowdyFFC

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121 posted on 09/12/2011 9:31:02 PM PDT by nralife (www.fireholder.com)
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To: Eva
“If this is the biggest thing that you have against Perry, then you should vote for him.”

Illegal immigration.open borders and the hundreds of thousands of dollars in “perks” received from supporters are far bigger problems than Gardisil.

122 posted on 09/12/2011 9:32:08 PM PDT by bwc2221
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To: D-fendr
. The vaccine does work, kids have to be vaccinated now (it was a lot worse when I was a kid), and there was to be an opt out.

A question I've asked a couple of times, but gotten no answer to is: we have 49 (or 56) other states. What did governors of other states do regarding Gardasil?

If the situation created such a pressing need for Perry to act, surely there were other governors who took action.

123 posted on 09/12/2011 9:32:13 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Outlaw Woman

Thank you Outlaw Woman. My son moved from Florida to Round Rock, Texas last year after researching job opportunities and found work in his line after 2 weeks! He is now a new and proud Texan!


124 posted on 09/12/2011 9:32:37 PM PDT by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: BuddhaBrown
Palin was on Fox right after the debate. She took Bachmann’s side -strongly- against Perry on the vaccine. On that issue: Sarah is right. Bachmann is right. Rick S is right. Perry is wrong.

See Post 117.

If there is one mother that should have wanted girls in Alaska protected against HPV, that mother should be Sarah Palin as her own daughter has a very good chance of already being infected with the HPV virus.

125 posted on 09/12/2011 9:33:51 PM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama is Priority Number One)
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To: kabar

Apparently most in Texas want it.


126 posted on 09/12/2011 9:36:54 PM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: ari-freedom
His answer tonight on in-state tuition for illegals, for example, was absurd.

I agree his answer could have been better. He seemed to imply that they would automatically be on the "dole" if not allowed in-state tuition.

What he should have said IMO was that it's cost effective and a plus for the state (in future taxes) if they be allowed to use in-state tuition and become college graduates vs not having degrees.

127 posted on 09/12/2011 9:37:30 PM PDT by Texan
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To: Winstons Julia
He really didn’t give a crap about politics.

I would like to think he would run circles around this group of jokers right now, but to be honest, more likely then not, a big chunk of freepers would probably call him a Rino and another group would be tearing him down because he isn't Governor Palin or Ron Paul or whomever.

He had the 11th commandment, which seems to have been replaced with the newest commandment, "Thou shall call any republican a RINO that speaks about another republican other then Palin positively"......(and I actually like Governor Palin and want her to run).

128 posted on 09/12/2011 9:39:44 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: bwc2221
I find your desperate hatred of Perry beyond weird.
The examiner hit piece is from a Romney operative.
What a shocker !
I read the Malkin piece and it makes no sense.
Malkin uses one example about the federal drug program as crony blah blah blah. Non one makes money from
a Medicaid and SCIP programs.
That is why hospitals are closing or merging
Malkin has since then back off from her Perry bashing.

Are you a Ron Paul or a Romney troll ?

You do nothing but trash Perry here non stop .

129 posted on 09/12/2011 9:39:52 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: TexMom7

“And Rick Perry said he was wrong.”

He admitted to using a wrong approach - executive order.

In reality his goal was wrong.

Which Bachmann and Palin both correctly understand. It was a heavy handed, big government nanny state move. And his response was that he should have enlisted more (legislation) nannies before execution of the plan.

Rick S did the best job explaining WHY Peryy was so wrong.


130 posted on 09/12/2011 9:42:00 PM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
I think any disease that is communicable to elementary school children should be given shots...Back in the 40’s I had to have have such shots....but the Texas mandate was for a sexual transmitted disease. Its not the governments job at that point, it is the parents if they want in....should have been opt in, not opt out... Most 12 year olds are not having sexual relations....and the one cancer that vaccine protected against was not the only cancer that females get...it ignored many other types of cancer. Most vaccines have a very small amount of catastophic results from vaccines...I believe the results of that vaccine are causing problems than are greater than 12 years olds that might....get that particular cancer...It targeted only 1 type of cancer out of many.
131 posted on 09/12/2011 9:42:11 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: varina davis

Oh no kidding? What a coincidence...my son called me yesterday (we live in MO) and informed me that he and his wife want to move to Texas. They are thinking the Fort Worth area. He’s in the Aerospace industry. That’s good to hear about your son getting work so quickly. What does he do?


132 posted on 09/12/2011 9:42:33 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Palin/Perry, Perry/Palin, Palin or Perry, Perry or Palin 2012....Any Questions?)
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To: Polybius

It is a sexually transmitted disease and not the same danger as to the public as a whole, unless your daughter is having sex with everyone and I mean everyone in town and even then its not the same as TB, smallpox, measles, or typhus. Your argument is without merit.

Do you really want the government tell you and yours what care you should, shouldn’t and MUST get?


133 posted on 09/12/2011 9:44:17 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: tirednvirginia
This year, legislators in Washington, Nebraska, Kansas and Texas tried to repeal their in-state tuition laws. However, legislative efforts failed in all but Texas, which still has active repeal bills in both legislative houses.

There are at least three pending lawsuits outside of Maryland that are challenging colleges for being out of compliance with federal law by allowing illegal immigrants to receive in-state tuition. The lawsuits claim the state laws violated the federal Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, which “prohibits states from providing a postsecondary education benefit to an alien not lawfully present in the United States on the basis of residence unless any U.S. citizen or national is eligible for the same benefit.”

The most notable case, Robert Martinez v. Regents of the University of California, is a class action suit in California state court. Kris Kobach represents the plaintiffs on behalf of the Immigration Reform Law Institute. Kobach has since been elected Kansas Secretary of State. The case has been appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, and a decision on whether the justices will hear it is expected in late spring, Kobach said.

Kobach is also behind a second suit, Mannschreck v. Regents of the University of Nebraska, which was filed in Nebraska court. Kobach said the plaintiffs were required to seek relief from a federal agency before the case can proceed, and the case is on hold until the U.S. Justice Department decides if it will offer them anything. The Department of Justice did not respond to inquiries about the lawsuit.

The defendants argue that because they went to high school in the state, they can receive in-state tuition, Kobach said. This is a loophole; the law prohibits using residency to determine eligibility.

The third suit, Immigration Reform Coalition of Texas v. State of Texas (University of Houston), is scheduled to have its next hearing in Harris County District Court on June 13.

134 posted on 09/12/2011 9:44:23 PM PDT by kabar
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To: ncalburt

“The program had an opt out.”

The “opt out” wasn’t a practical one. A parent had to beg to get released from it. I’m not a fascist.


135 posted on 09/12/2011 9:45:09 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: BuddhaBrown
Bachman is real witch for that over the top accusation.

Backman came off as nasty and petty.

She is done but she seems to have teamed up with Romney.

Please note Michele never touched Romney.

She is vying for his VP slot now.

136 posted on 09/12/2011 9:46:17 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: Marty62

“So you are for discontinuong all the vaccinations that children have to get before they can attend school?”

Yes. The government has no right to force medications on children. Next question.


137 posted on 09/12/2011 9:46:40 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Polybius
If there is one mother that should have wanted girls in Alaska protected against HPV, that mother should be Sarah Palin as her own daughter has a very good chance of already being infected with the HPV virus.

LOL!!!! OMG, you did NOT just go there!
138 posted on 09/12/2011 9:47:00 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: DRey
Death is not the only result of a bad reaction to vaccines...It can also be brain disorders or paralysis..
139 posted on 09/12/2011 9:47:03 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Kartographer

The TX state law allows Executive Orders. Perry has used it rarely. He said he should have gone to the Legislature first. The Legislature did not pass it, the parents did not like it, and it was dropped a long time ago. It is a NON-ISSUE! Perry is heavily involved in raising money for cancer in TX and is pro-life. I am from TX and have seen what he stands for. I have voted for him in 3 elections, will vote for him in the Primary and as the GOP candidate for President. He can bet Obama plain and simple.


140 posted on 09/12/2011 9:47:25 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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