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Issa: Holder so 'inept he is dangerous'
The Hill ^ | 9/12/11 | Justin Sink

Posted on 09/13/2011 5:17:10 AM PDT by Libloather

Issa: Holder so 'inept he is dangerous'
By Justin Sink - 09/12/11 11:10 AM ET

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) said that Attorney General Eric Holder is so "inept that he is dangerous to have as the Attorney General" and that President Obama should consider removing him from office.

Issa made the comments on the Laura Ingraham show while commenting about the controversial "Fast and Furious" gun-tracking program.

"He doesn't want to admit that it was felony-stupid," Issa said of the operation, which was run by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), which allowed assault-type weapons to be illegally purchased and smuggled across the border.

The Department of Justice was monitoring the weapons, but they have turned up at crime scenes across Mexico. Two weapons that were sold under the program were found at the murder scene of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry last December.

Acting ATF Director Kenneth Melson was removed from his position late last month as the result of an investigation pushed by Issa, chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. But Issa believes that Attorney General Holder either signed off on the operation or was "willfully ignorant."

"The only way the attorney general didn't know is that he made sure he didn't want to know," Issa said.

The congressman said the scandal was "dumber than Iran-Contra," the program under which senior officials in the Reagan administration secretly sold arms to Iran to fund Nicaraguan rebels. Both arms sales to Iran and funding of the Contras was explicitly prohibited by law, and Reagan national security advisers Oliver North and John Poindexter were convicted of violating the law.

"What we need is an admission that it was wrong … and then we need assurance that it won't happen again," Issa said.

For his part, Holder has admitted that the Fast and Furious program "was clearly a flawed enforcement effort," but denied that he or any of his aides had knowledge of the operation.

"The notion that this reaches into the upper levels of the Justice Department is something that at this point I don't think is supported by the facts and I think once we examine it and once the facts are revealed we'll see that's not the case," Holder said last Wednesday.

The Department of Justice has launched an internal investigation to look into the matter, in addition to the one led by Issa.

Holder also defended the decision to transfer Melson into the DOJ's Office of Legal Policy, rather than fire him outright.

"Ken has served this department well over the course of some three decades," Holder said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: corruption; dangerous; democrats; doj; dojisajoke; fraud; govtabuse; gunrunner; holder; holdertruthfile; inept; issa; liberalfascism; obama; soros
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To: Diogenesis
On this, Issa plays the fool.

Plays or is, that is the question.
If Issa is the latter, then he can't help it. It's what he is.
If it's the former, then Issa is no better than those responsible.

21 posted on 09/13/2011 6:04:06 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: Libloather

How do you separate Holder from the other stupid and incompetent members of the Obama admin? Obama himself is the most incompetent prez ever.


22 posted on 09/13/2011 6:06:48 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Libloather

“”He doesn’t want to admit that it was felony-stupid,” Issa said of the operation”

But, but, but holder and his buddies knew nothing about it./s


23 posted on 09/13/2011 6:09:53 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Diogenesis

Not inept.

On this, Issa plays the fool.


Issa is stirring the pot...he knows Holder is a gangsta.


24 posted on 09/13/2011 6:11:28 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Libloather
Being Black means that everything is okay.

Anyone who even questions is a racist.

Look away now. You must learn how to accept Black incompetence with a smile.

25 posted on 09/13/2011 6:29:39 AM PDT by blam
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To: Libloather

Holder also defended the decision to transfer Melson into the DOJ’s Office of Legal Policy, rather than fire him outright.

“Ken has served this department well over the course of some three decades,” Holder said.


Sounds like the Justice Department has its own version of the Teacher’s Union’s Rubber Room . . .


26 posted on 09/13/2011 6:33:42 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: Gen.Blather
Eric Holder, Bill Clinton, Wright's 'Black Liberation' "church", and the pardons of 16 members of the Puerto Rican Marxist terrorist group FALN:(Wright's Marxist BLT 'church' (Obama's 'church' for 20+ years) advocated for FALN terrorists)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2165024/posts
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"During the 1970s and 1980s, FALN members set off at least 138 bombs in five major U.S. Cities. Six Americans were killed in those attacks. One of those bombings, in January 1975, was at the historic Fraunces Tavern in lower Manhattan while patrons were at lunch. The explosion killed four and injured more than 50."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/bill_hillary_and_the_faln.html
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"Fraunces Tavern is a restaurant and museum in lower Manhattan, New York City. It was built on the site of a former building which played a significant role in pre-Revolutionary activities, and in which, on 4 December 1783, General George Washington bade farewell to his officers at the end of the Revolution, before returning to his home, Mount Vernon."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraunces_Tavern
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"Between 1974 and 1985 the FALN (Puerto Rican Armed Forces of National Liberation) organized 120 terrorist bombings in the United States. Many Americans were killed in those bombings, and many more were crippled. In 1983, another Puerto Rican terrorist group known as the Macheteros, attacked and robbed a Wells Fargo armored car in Connecticut. The Macheteros intended to use the money to finance a terrorist campaign against the United States. Working under the cover of Puerto Rican nationalism and claiming to act on behalf of the 'oppressed people of Puerto Rico,' the FALN and the Macheteros are nothing but Communist revolutionaries. Both groups were organized by Fidel Castro's secret police. The ultimate goal of the FALN and the Macheteros is the creation of an independent Marxist-Leninist dictatorship on the island of Puerto Rico."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=19760
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Eric Holder's role in the pardons of BLA (Black Liberation Army) comrades/Weather Underground members, Susan Rosenberg and Linda Evans (1983 Brinks Truck robbery and triple murder):
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2165052/posts

27 posted on 09/13/2011 6:37:49 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
As others have already stated here: Holder inept? Yes, to some degree. Corrupt? Most definitely.

Issa is deliberately playing the diplomat here, giving public voice to 'the benefit of the doubt'. But you know that he is fully away of the ugly truth here.

I hope that the comments by others here are correct: That Issa is simply biding his time and building his case before coming down on these mobsters like a ton of bricks. Time will tell. I'd love to see Obama and his entire cadre go down in flames. But if they get away with murder, literally, well... it won't be the first time in our history that people in power get off with such high crimes scot-free.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

28 posted on 09/13/2011 7:25:25 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Diogenesis
Not inept.

I agree. This was purposeful with the aim of undermining the Second Amendment.

29 posted on 09/13/2011 7:35:18 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Libloather

If AG Holder made his choices and policies randomly, he’d be correct more often than he actually is.

Mr. Sink is mistaking evil and subversion for mere incompetence.


30 posted on 09/13/2011 7:39:21 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Joe Brower

The fish stinks from the head.

Holder is but a symptom. The real menace sits in the Oval Office.


31 posted on 09/13/2011 8:00:57 AM PDT by ZULU (ANYBODY but Obama)
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To: Joe Brower

I agree with you, Holder might be inept but mostly just corrupt and also extremely into Black racism.

The entire Obama administration from top to bottom is composed of terrorist supporters, former terrorists, anti American extremists etc.

The whole thing is a house of cards but that house is protected by the media which is the equivalent of having a Hundred foot high wall, surrounded by a deep and wide moat, all atop a high mountain. No one will ever get inside to topple the rotten administration.


32 posted on 09/13/2011 8:10:55 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Gen.Blather

“Also, there was never a mechanism set up to track the guns.”

You hit the nail on the head here. If there was no mechanism to track the guns, then there was never intent to track the guns.


33 posted on 09/13/2011 8:40:29 AM PDT by willyd (your credibility deficit is screwing up my bs meter...)
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To: Libloather

Inept? Hey, I resemble that statement.
34 posted on 09/13/2011 9:05:52 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Libloather; LucyT; Fred Nerks

The fact of the matter is that Holder and Obama wanted those arms to return to the United States, to be used by the cailize Red Staes like Arizona, cause fear and dismay and punish the people for being conservative. Its the fascists using anarchists to create mayhem and cuase dependency of the federal government, who would then defend the minority perpetrators.

Secondly this was a gun control initiative which was used to make it look like US gun dealers were supplying the drag cartels. The NRA pointed out repeatedly the fact that the vast majprity of dreug cartel ordnance is supplied from stolen Mexican military ordnance, WHICH HAD BEEN SUPPLIED TO MEXICO BY THE US FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

Thirdly, the Obama administration wanted to engender a backlash against Mexican illegals so they could create a racial issue to exploit for election purposes to gaini votes.

Fourthly, US citizens were murdered with these arms, making those involved accessories to murder. That is criminal conduct which requires more than Issa’s imprication that:

“What we need is an admission that it was wrong … and then we need assurance that it won’t happen again,”

Those responsible at the DOJ, The Whitehouse,and BATF need to be charged and tried for murder, here in the USA.

And lastly, there were three Fast and Furious weapons found at the scene of the murder, AND Fast and Furious guns have been seized at crime scenes in the South West.Whats wrong with the press? REPORT IT!!!!!!!!!


35 posted on 09/13/2011 9:10:03 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: mark3681

That’s the problem. Politicians get away with everything illegal that they want to do. Politicians don’t go to jail anymore.


36 posted on 09/13/2011 9:14:30 AM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: Joe Brower

I hear that Issa is fairly wealthy. If he does go after these Clymers, he’d better have his bean-counter scour his books for ANY — and I mean ANY — potential problems. He’d also better set aside a few million for tax lawyers as this band of brigands will almost certainly sic the Infernal Revenue Service on him.

Hey, it’s the CHICAGO WAY!


37 posted on 09/13/2011 9:52:31 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (The 2012 election is coming. Seems we have MORE TRASH TO REMOVE!)
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To: Libloather

“...”What we need is an admission that it was wrong … and then we need assurance that it won’t happen again,” Issa said. ...”

No.

What need is Holder and anyone else invloved being arrested and perp-walked to a jail cell - JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PERSON WHO WILLINGLY ENGAGES IN FELONY ACTS.

That is the single stupidest statement I’ve ever heard Issa make.

An “assurance that it will nebve happen again???”

People DIED because of this. How is that NOT at the very least accessory to murder? Or conspiracy to cover up murder? Especially when “My People” Holder CLEARLY knew what was going on?


38 posted on 09/13/2011 9:53:40 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Candor7

“...Those responsible at the DOJ, The Whitehouse,and BATF need to be charged and tried for murder, here in the USA...”

Agreed.

Not going to happen, brother.

There are ZERO balls in the GOP to do this.

If this were happening with an R in charge, it would be exploding across every newspaper, 24-7 on every talking mediot program, blond bimbo bubbleheads exploding in righteous outrage every night on CNN-PMSNBC-CBS-NBC-ABC....

If anything comes of it, I will be heart-attack surprised.


39 posted on 09/13/2011 9:57:56 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

If the criminal laws will not be enforced, then the American people themselves have the duty ( not just a right) to enforce them.Our own government sells arms used to murder its citizens, and insists on ignoring the enforcement of its laws concerning unlawful homicide?

I look forward to the establishment of citizen committees of correpondence. Our people will NOT be “ruled” by such a government, and the price for our continued liberty will be paid in the blood of patriots. The present totalitarian regime and their future likenesses,presently that of Barak Obama, will be destroyed utterly for all time.

It has been accomplished before by men of fewer resources than have we.

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Philadelphia JULY 6th. 1776.

Sir,

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Although it is not possible to foresee the consequences of human actions, yet it is, nevertheless, a duty we owe ourselves and posterity, in all our public councils, to decide in the best manner we are able, and to leave the event to that Being who controls both causes and events, to bring about his own determinations.

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Agreeably to the request of Congress, the Committee of Safety of this Colony have forwarded to you ten thousand flints, and the Hints at Rhode Island are ordered to be sent to you immediately.

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I have written to Governor Cooke, to engage immediately, and send forward as fast as possible, fifty ship-carpenters to General Schuyler, for the purpose of building vessels on the Lakes. Fifty have already gone from hence on that business.

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The inclosed copy of a letter from Mr. Green, I am directed to forward, by Congress, with a request that you will order such parts of the stores, therein mentioned, to New York, as you shall judge proper.

I have the honor to be, Sir, with perfect esteem, your most obedient and very humble servant,

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40 posted on 09/13/2011 11:00:24 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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