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On Immigration, Rick Perry Takes Heat for Texas DREAM Act
Los Angeles Times ^ | Sept. 12, 2011

Posted on 09/13/2011 1:35:12 PM PDT by T.L.Sink

Perry, who signed a Texas version of the DREAM Act (which allows young people in the country illegally to pay in-state tuition at public colleges and universities) drew several rounds of boos when he defended this policy.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; dream; illegals; perry; rino
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To: RowdyFFC

If Leon Coffee is your friend, you must have some decent qualities.


21 posted on 09/13/2011 2:46:00 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Happy Rain

“an insincere opportunist”

Ricardo?


22 posted on 09/13/2011 2:50:57 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn
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To: Happy Rain

Great point! That’s the sort of slime-ball political phraseology that implies that all citizens who want our borders enforced are racist. And you’re right to point out that it’s the sort of slander that Gramnesty and others of his ilk have tried to exploit.


23 posted on 09/13/2011 2:52:07 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: thackney

Well, I try...his brother Lawrence has helped me win the many buckles for barrels, calves, and even got me into roping heels for him for awhile. Both fine men and old family friends.


24 posted on 09/13/2011 2:54:45 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: T.L.Sink
instead of an opt-in

I've seen this discussion before, but I don't understand it.

What legislation would be an opt-in besides not doing any legislation?

The vaccine already exists. It is relatively expensive. By requiring it is how we get insurance to pay for it.

25 posted on 09/13/2011 2:54:57 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: T.L.Sink
>>>>>this was an Obama-scale mistake

Okay. In your opinion. Not mine. It was unfortunate that Perry chose the EO route and didn't go through the state legislature. He said that was a mistake and I take him at his word. I don't see crony capitalism, however, and the opt-out clause is just that.

As for Bachmann. I lost a great of respect for her last night. Didn't appreciate her canned answers and political stunts. She continued her attacks today with more speculation. Very unpresidential.

26 posted on 09/13/2011 2:57:33 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: thackney
The vaccine already exists. It is relatively expensive. By requiring it is how we get insurance to pay for it.

Insurance pays? The only way insurance pays is by increasing their premiums on all their customers. The US tax payer was already covering the cost of the vaccine for the 'poor' wild girls.

27 posted on 09/13/2011 2:58:20 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: RowdyFFC

When I finally got my family to go see a rodeo outside of Houston, we are smiled greatly to find Leon there as well.


28 posted on 09/13/2011 2:59:32 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: SharpRightTurn

Right. It just goes to show that the latest unvetted fresh face to get in the race has high poll ratings. But it’s a sad day for conservatives when a Wolf Blitzer shows that he’s in fact just another open-borders amnestyite trying to spin his way out of a public record position that can’t be denied.


29 posted on 09/13/2011 3:12:22 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink
Mark Levin just gave Perry a pretty hard thumbs down over the illegal alien thing—said he was worse than W on it.
30 posted on 09/13/2011 3:13:16 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Count to ten when dealing with fools--with liberals make it twenty.")
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To: T.L.Sink

The only fair thing to do Nationally, is keep illegals out and you don’t do that by giving them freebes and making nice about invasion. You close the borders and ship them out when you find them and punish employer abettors.

However, no Texan can be governor without pandering to Mexicans. That’s a fact.


31 posted on 09/13/2011 9:22:45 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Happy Rain

What a pair! Bush and Perry. I wonder what’s in the drinking water in Texas that Republicans are swallowing!


32 posted on 09/13/2011 9:41:12 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: SaraJohnson

But that’s precisely the difference between LEADERSHIP and being a political panderer. If Perry promotes that policy in his state he’ll pander as president too. It’s a matter of personal character and proclaiming a clear message about what’s right and what’s wrong. Unless Perry actually believes the bull he’s been spreading. He’s either a hypocritical panderer or he’s dead wrong on the issue. Either way, we don’t need that in a president.


33 posted on 09/13/2011 9:54:04 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

Romney will be far worse.


34 posted on 09/13/2011 9:58:16 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: T.L.Sink

Perry claims to know the difference between State power and responsibilities and Federal power and responsibilities under the constitution. So as governor he could do what he did legally - under the constitution. The people of the State dealt with his bad decision on the vacine as is their responsibility under the constitution.

But as President, he could not act as if he is running Texas from on High. He would have to cede to the States decisions that are not in the Federal purview and he would have to enforce immigration law which is one of the few duties of the Fededal government.

So it would behoove him to educate the public about the lost tenth Amendment and how he sees his role as President versus how he sees his role and power as Gov. of Texas.

People are booing his actions as Gov. as if he is going to do those things as President. Maybe he is planning to do that. That is what we need to find out from the candidates.


35 posted on 09/14/2011 6:13:50 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

You make a good point and I’m not disputing the legality of the legislation he sponsored but the fact that such things as the DREAM Act are completely antithetical to conservatism. It’s not the legality but his wisdom that I question. By the way, I love the Tenth Amendment but federal courts have superior jurisdiction over any state law. With respect to the vacine, this definitely gives the appearance of arbitrary rule by fiat. Not only was it mishandled by ignoring the legislature but his chief of staff was a Merck lobbyist. We all know that in politics appearance is often more important than the action itself. I can’t read Perry’s mind but I think that he’s already got too much baggage to be seriously considered as a presidential contender.


36 posted on 09/14/2011 1:04:28 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: T.L.Sink

I question the wisdom of the Dream Act, too. On one hand, Texas has been invaded big time. The political elite have made clear they will never close the border nor will they export the criminals. So we have all these illegals who are living here since they were small and we are stuck with the problem of assigning them to a permanent under class status or encouraging education and upward mobility.

At the Federal level, this betrayal has to stop. Dealing the States massive populations of illegals, is a crime against the constitution. The Federal government is charged with protecting our borders from invasion.


37 posted on 09/14/2011 5:26:59 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Reagan Man
As long as we are all letting it hang out, Bachmann, as good as she is articulating the issues, is unelectable because she is married to a guy that lisps worse than Liberace and has serious First Dude maybe in the closet problems.

Her attack on the Gardasil issue just shows that she doesn't know how to win a nomination.

And anybody who would work as a lawyer for the IRS is suspect.

Romney is like a vampire that keeps coming back, but his upcoming humiliating defeats in primary after primary ought to exorcise this coward fake con man from a family of fake coward con men from the GOP once and for all.

The communist press is working overtime on digging up dirt on Perry.

The rest of the GOP field ought not to be helping them.

38 posted on 09/14/2011 5:42:26 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Rome2000
>>>>>Romney is like a vampire that keeps coming back

LOL Willard looks like a bloodsucker more and more.

>>>>>The communist press is working overtime on digging up dirt on Perry.
The rest of the GOP field ought not to be helping them.

Agreed. Cain and Newt did not join the attackdogs, however. It was obvious the others displayed desperation on some level. Perry has thrown a scare into the entire GOP establishment. You can see it with the moderate GOP wing, with the Bushies and the McCain clan too.

39 posted on 09/14/2011 6:07:14 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: RowdyFFC

Well said.


40 posted on 09/14/2011 11:36:07 PM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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