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More Deaths Associated with HPV Vaccine
Dakota Voice. ^ | 9/21/07 | Staff

Posted on 09/17/2011 12:39:14 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

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To: DB

"I think that a vaccination program for a disease that’s epidemic falls very clearly within the realms of a small limited government."

That pinheaded mentality terrifies me. Remember the 1976 swine flu pandemic scare? The CDC advocated vaccinating 95% of the U.S. population! Ford and the Congress went along with it. Vaccinations began ... followed shortly thereafter by twenty five deaths and 532 cases of Guillain Barre Syndrome. The program was thankfully trashed before more harm could be done. I thought we had learned our lesson ... but apparently not entirely.


61 posted on 09/17/2011 4:05:18 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Oh but wait, many freepers love Perry and act like Liberal Democrats and refuse to face the truth. Please don’t challenge their world view, they’ll act like democrats who still like Obama, he’s they’re guy and truth ain’t a gonna get in the way ...


62 posted on 09/17/2011 4:08:00 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Bachmann should run against Obama instead of Gardisil.
63 posted on 09/17/2011 4:11:52 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: benjibrowder

Do you have a link to those stats?


64 posted on 09/17/2011 4:12:12 PM PDT by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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To: giotto
He didn't force anyone. There was an opt-out.

Face it, Bachmann jumped the shark.

65 posted on 09/17/2011 4:13:55 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Gabz
THAT is the ONLY issue.

It may be the most important issue in the Gardusil fiasco, but it's NOT the only issue about Perry that worries many of us. With the Trans Texas Corridor, we see the same determination to override the will of the people for his own and his cronies' personal gain. If anything, the TTC is an even more outrageous abuse of power.

Then there's in-state tuition for illegals, and I begin to see a pattern that tells me Perry is Slick Willie on steroids. But because he mouths the right conservative-sounding blather, the Perristas are willing to overlook his "mistakes." You say, He did it, owned it and has admitted it was a mistake. So have many murderers, bank robbers, embezzlers, and rapists. But we don't say, "Oh well then, we'll put all that behind us" and then elect them to a high public office.

66 posted on 09/17/2011 4:17:58 PM PDT by giotto
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To: DesertRhino

You think they are kissing?


67 posted on 09/17/2011 4:23:56 PM PDT by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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To: DB

I live in Virginia and have a 13 year old daughter. I know exactly what the mandate here is.

The mandate was for girls entering 6th grade. Well my daughter is in 8th grade and has not gotten the vaccine. The opt out is very simple.


68 posted on 09/17/2011 4:31:06 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Perry’s Fault.


69 posted on 09/17/2011 4:32:40 PM PDT by Dryman (Define Natural Born Citizen)
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To: giotto

I don’t know why you’re jumping on me - I’m not a Perry supporter. If you read the rest of my post I stated I support Herman Cain.

However, I was only discussing the Gardisil issue, nothing else - as that is all this thread is about.


70 posted on 09/17/2011 4:34:18 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Brookhaven; Mr Ramsbotham
Remember, before the vaccine there were as many as 27,000 cases in the USA and 6,000 deaths annually. Most of those were children that ended up as cripples, or worse in iron lungs for the rest of their lives.

Wait, that many women died from HPV? Holy cow!

Oh.... You meant polio.

How many women have died from HPV or ended up crippled.

If your going to compare apples to apples then do it. Otherwise your argument is a fallacious one.

71 posted on 09/17/2011 4:55:54 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: donna

You need statistics for women who catch HPV from their adulterous husbands or husbands who caught it in their own past?! That doesn’t require statistics, it requires common sense.


72 posted on 09/17/2011 5:05:17 PM PDT by benjibrowder (For Neda. May God bless those fighting for freedom.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Thank you for posting this. Here is more information:

http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/09/sanevax-heart-broken-moms-offended-by-aap-statements-on-merck-gardasil.html

http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/09/michele-bachman-meet-dr-diane-harper-lead-researcher-for-gardasil-vaccine.html

73 posted on 09/17/2011 5:31:05 PM PDT by eens (beware the errors of Russia)
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To: Gabz

Sorry. You seemed to be defending Perry. I like Cain too, and would happily vote for him. I would not happily vote for Perry.


74 posted on 09/17/2011 5:31:15 PM PDT by giotto
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To: giotto

I wasn’t defending Perry, except insofar as many of the comments were going over the top and actually out of the realm of reality on this issue, and this issue only.

I have all the sames concerns as you listed about Perry, and just like McCain, would not happily vote for him.

I would like to see Cain more prominent, but it seems most are falling into the media, DNC, and RNC establishment trap and are only focusing on Perry and Romney. Which is why I pretty much stay out of the candidate arguments. The Gardasil issue, however, is one I was involved with before it became an issue (to some people) in this race.


75 posted on 09/17/2011 5:42:34 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Brookhaven; Mr Ramsbotham
>> Is this really what YOU want to go back to?<<

That’s not a valid question or comparison. HPV is NOT contagious as polio is. And don’t come back to me with some bogus statistics. I’ve understood the vaccination debate for now over 50 years. I’m over the age of 60 and had polio in 1950. I’ve watched as others have tried to make the “but there have been mandatory vaccinations for years” argument and it’s getting really old and shows the ignorance of the person making the argument. You can try to make it as graphic as you want attempting to make it emotional but it doesn’t work with those of us who know.

76 posted on 09/17/2011 5:50:30 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: giotto
The issue is that Perry circumvented the legislature, the will of the people, and, most importantly, parental rights, to force this drug on school children.

Since there was an Opt Out clause, the "facts" you supplied to form this issue is nothing but manufactured untruths which makes your issue a non-issue. Michele Bachmann is already learning that today. The hard way.

77 posted on 09/17/2011 6:10:28 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Brookhaven

well I’ve got one daughter who passed out, vomitted, and had a seizure.


78 posted on 09/17/2011 6:11:20 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: so_real
The aspirin argument is a red herring. Aspirin debilitates or kills people when they *overdose* on it

Really! Perhaps you should do a little research on aspirin before your credibility goes down the toilet like Michele Bachmann's.

*Children should never take aspirin, as aspirin use in children has been linked to Reye syndrome, which is deadly. With Reye's syndrome, fat builds up on the brain, liver and other organs of the body.

*If aspirin is taken during the last few months of pregnancy, it can harm the fetus.

*Cerebral hemorrhage can occur taking aspirin if you are on blood thinners.

None of the above examples are related to "overdose" of aspirin.

Another interesting fact: Approximately 5.5 million new HPV transmissions occur in the United States every year.

And lastly, the Perry executive order had an Opt Out clause so there was no chance of forced vaccinations.

Observation: Evidently Perry's got a very threatening record on economics to be discussing the dangers of aspirin as an issue to somehow get his poll numbers below those of Romney. Sounds to me like some people have their magical diapers on a little too tight, if you ask me.

79 posted on 09/17/2011 6:26:34 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Mamzelle
Face it, Bachmann jumped the shark.

She sure did. It's time for Bachmann to step down and make room for Sarah Palin who should have been the one up there in the first place.

80 posted on 09/17/2011 6:32:16 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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