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... Businessman who stabbed intruder with his own knife knew wife and son were due home [UK]
Daily Mail ^ | 18th September 2011 | Jaya Narain

Posted on 09/18/2011 4:30:30 PM PDT by Daffynition

A wealthy family man was arrested on suspicion of murder yesterday after allegedly stabbing a burglar to death with his own knife.

Businessman Vincent Cooke, 39, was relaxing when he heard a knock at the front door of his detached home.

When he answered he was confronted by two men, at least one armed with a knife, who threatened him and tried to force their way into the £350,000 house in the Cheshire stockbroker belt.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; United Kingdom
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Why we must be ever vigilant


1 posted on 09/18/2011 4:30:33 PM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition

“man was arrested on suspicion of murder yesterday after allegedly stabbing a burglar to death”

The Brits are absolutely deranged.


2 posted on 09/18/2011 4:37:33 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Daffynition

It’s England. What do you expect? The victim becomes the lawbreaker and the lawbreaker becomes the victim. It’s a wonder that the Brits are civilized anymore. If there were a Fourth World country, England would be it.


3 posted on 09/18/2011 4:38:31 PM PDT by SkyDancer (A critic is like a legless man who teaches running.)
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To: Brilliant

We’re a mere few steps behind them..


4 posted on 09/18/2011 4:38:52 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Mr B has a new cousin on the way!)
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To: Daffynition

I find it disgusting that a case of obvious self defense even draws a question in a supposedly civilized country.


5 posted on 09/18/2011 4:39:05 PM PDT by tpmintx (The people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living.)
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To: Daffynition
Sympathy for the devil.

No sympathy for the victim.


6 posted on 09/18/2011 4:39:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: Daffynition

According to the article, family and friends of the burgler are coming to the crime scene and leaving floral tributes to the slain criminal.

As the British would say, “What cheek.”


7 posted on 09/18/2011 4:42:13 PM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Daffynition

Sounds like they had it coming


8 posted on 09/18/2011 4:43:03 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The homeowners should collect all those flowers and hold a bonfire in the front yard.


9 posted on 09/18/2011 4:43:26 PM PDT by Defiant (Calling all citizens from all over the world, this is Captain America calling.)
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To: Daffynition; Brilliant; All

What happened to the English Bill of Rights ?


10 posted on 09/18/2011 4:43:51 PM PDT by jonatron (This is the Land of the Free, the Home of the Brave.)
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To: tpmintx
It has to be investigated. If it turns out that the facts are as they've been described in the media, it will almost certainly lead to no prosecution - but you can't just assume that the media has it right, and the police certainly can't assume that.

People do have the right to use reasonable force in self defence in the UK. This is not a licence to kill, however - the force used must be reasonable given the threat. Deadly force is justified if a person honestly believes themselves or another person to be at risk of death or serious injury. It is not justified unless they believe that.

I can kill a burglar in my home if I think he's likely to harm me. I can't if he's running away (as one example). Maybe the law shouldn't make these distinctions, but it is important to understand that there is a right to self defence.

11 posted on 09/18/2011 4:46:14 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: tpmintx
I find it disgusting . . .

Much more than disgusting. Further down in the story:

The right to defend one's property against intruders or burglars came to prominence in 1999 when farmer Tony Martin shot dead 16-year-old Fred Barras at his Norfolk home.

Barras and accomplice Brendon Fearon had disturbed Martin in the middle of the night.

Martin was jailed for life at Norwich Crown Court in April 2000 for murder, but his sentence was reduced by the Appeal Court to five years for manslaughter and he was released in 2003.

Fearon, who was wounded in the leg, was jailed for three years for conspiracy to burgle.


12 posted on 09/18/2011 4:46:20 PM PDT by Racehorse (Always preach the Gospel . . . . Use words if necessary.)
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To: Daffynition

It used to be, in some distant past, that Brits were allowed “proportional response” (but not more) in defense of their lives. So you couldn’t shoot someone attacking you with a knife, for example. Well, this guy uses the perp’s own knife to kill him ... but now it’s considered murder! This is sick.


13 posted on 09/18/2011 4:46:30 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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The Brits deserve what they get. They have allowed the PC-deranged elites of the BBC, the print media, and universities to bully and badger them for a generation. They are now incapable of protecting themselves, their families, or their country.


14 posted on 09/18/2011 4:46:36 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: Daffynition

Obama and the progs want this for us.


15 posted on 09/18/2011 4:48:11 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (0 - 537 They ALL must go.)
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To: Brilliant

Do I detect a wee bit of class warfare? I know that stupidity has its place and even read where there is a flower memorial for the home invader is accumulating in front of the house. This is too much for my old and feeble mind.


16 posted on 09/18/2011 4:49:59 PM PDT by JimSEA (The future ain't what it used to be.)
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To: jonatron

It still applies.

But the right of self defence in British law only justifies the use of deadly force in cases where a person has reason to belief they or someone else is in danger of death or serious injury. You don’t automatically have the right if your property is threatened (but you do if you are also in danger and a lot of the time you will be).

Everyone seems to have heard of the Tony Martin case where he was convicted for killing a burglar - but he was convicted because the burglar was running away at the time, and was no longer a threat - and Martin admitted he was no longer a threat.

You don’t hear anywhere near as often about the numerous cases where a person was found to have acted legally in killing an intruder (such as the Tony Evans case), because most of these are only in the newspaper for a couple of days before it’s clear there will be no legal action - they don’t drag on for weeks in the courts gathering publicity.


17 posted on 09/18/2011 4:50:29 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Daffynition

Note The UK Daily Mail closed the comments section for “legal reasons”.


18 posted on 09/18/2011 4:50:46 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

>>It is the third time in six months that intruders have been stabbed to death by homeowners. The killings come after the Government pledged to bring in legislation which clarified the law on self-defence in England.<<

I wonder if Mr Cooke had pulled the body inside the home, if that would have made a diff.

It irks me that it seems to *matter* to the author, where the man lived, what his economic status was, the fact that he owned property that was valuable [cars]; it’s as if he was *asking* for it; totally ignoring a man’s God-given right to self defense.


19 posted on 09/18/2011 4:52:07 PM PDT by Daffynition (“There are no compacts between lions and men, and wolves and lambs have no concord.” ~ Homer)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Britain’s version of “trailer park”.... (sorry if I offend anyone)


20 posted on 09/18/2011 4:54:24 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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