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Obama Hails End of U.S. Military Restrictions on Gays ("Don't Ask, Don't Tell' ends today)
Reuters ^ | September 20, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 09/20/2011 1:41:43 PM PDT by lbryce

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1 posted on 09/20/2011 1:41:49 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

I guess Bawney Fwank will now be doing more “troop inspections”.


2 posted on 09/20/2011 1:44:16 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: lbryce

Purely pandering to the faggot and dyke voters.


3 posted on 09/20/2011 1:45:05 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: lbryce

barf alert doesn’t even come close. Maybe weeping, wailing, tearing our outer garments and throwing dirt onto our heads while sitting in ashes would express our sorrow and revulsion.


4 posted on 09/20/2011 1:46:36 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: lbryce

I would be ok with this IF they (the you-know-who crowd) could keep their mouths shut and their pants on. If I never had to know about their sexual deviance- that is, if they never brought it up and it was never a point of interest in and around actual duty- then their deviation from biological norms could remain private and between them and God.

Unfortunately, they are not content to keep it between them and God. They want EVERYONE to know, and they want to shove it down our throats, so to speak, and I have a nagging concern that they are going to utilize the joyous jubilation of this terrible CiC as a legitimizing factor in forcing their deviance on the rest of the military.

I’m SO close to meeting the physical requirements to serve, and the more I see of this garbage the more I wonder at what the hell I’m choosing to do. It’s disgusting. And all I can say is I’m glad Obama won’t be in charge forever...


5 posted on 09/20/2011 1:47:24 PM PDT by HushTX (I make libs rage quit.)
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To: lbryce

I absolutely HATE this president and this administration! I know that is a strong word but I hate what they are doing to this country! AND I really, really HATE the press for allowing it to happen!


6 posted on 09/20/2011 1:47:54 PM PDT by Cricket24 (Proud to be a CONSERVATIVE WOMAN!!!!!!!)
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To: lbryce
Now comes the screaming for partner Bennie's and housing.
7 posted on 09/20/2011 1:51:47 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: lbryce; HushTX; huldah1776

Repealing U.S. Code Section 654 of Title 10, also known as “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” (DADT) relied upon deception, disinformation, and discrimination. Deception came from the Department of Defense (DOD) poll presenting the fraudulent idea that the military supports homosexual behavior. Disinformation came from requiring equivalency for rejecting homosexual behavior with discrimination based on sex and race. Discrimination came from repudiating religious freedom for Christian, Muslim, and Jewish believers.

Politicians supporting repeal of DADT relied for cover on the DOD deceptive proclamation that 70% of service members see positive or no effect for repealing DADT. The poll was conducted after Congressional Representatives had voted for repeal of DADT. Therefore, only 29% responded by completing half or more of the questions, under the compelling logic that nobody really cared. DOD contacted equal numbers of reserve and active troops and spouses, but only 20% to 30% of those whose family member’s military specialty could place them in harm’s way. Also, nearly one third had never deployed. Supposedly all these responses provided valid information, even though people in base housing, civilian neighborhoods, and CONUS bureaucracies never experience firefights and IED’s.

The entire military exists to serve Marine and Army combat infantrymen. DOD accomplishes nothing of lasting significance until infantrymen walk the ground formerly held by an enemy, and well over half of those trigger-pullers opposed repeal. Only they understand the unimaginable totalitarian leadership and obedience demanded by their chaotic and brittle environments.

Military service deals with the issues of race and sex amid the consequent extraordinary restrictions of Constitutional freedoms unknown to the civilian world. Disinformation must therefore achieve equivalency for rejection of homosexual behavior with those discriminatory issues. That objective in turn relies for vindication on the 1973 American Psychiatric Association (APA) decision to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual.

Removal followed two years Newsweek described as ongoing disruptive, chaotic attacks on psychiatrists and physiologists. Yet throughout this campaign, no academic papers arose at conferences refuting any previous research. Eventually sufficient under-votes and abstentions enabled a third of APA’s 17,000 plus membership to approve removal.

Next activists established a committee targeting leading researchers such as Dr. David Reuben, and Masters and Johnson to ensure perpetual sanctity for APA actions. No research papers would again confirm initial therapy success rates of 30% to 60 %, substantiating 7 of 10 homosexuals could eventually walk away from the lifestyle. Persistent activism over 37 years enabled ubiquitous infiltration of academia ensuring pre-ordained theses, approved research designs, suitable human data points, and enchanting statistical enhancements. The result has been social alchemy.

Psychology and psychiatry abandoned scientific rigor for popular acclaim. With homosexual studies freed from objective analysis, DADT repeal advocates relied upon base antidotal, emotional politics to dominate discrimination concerns. Advocates were free to avoid the realities of military operations characterized by sacrificial, primitive and intimate relations. Psychology and psychiatry were unwilling to demand a rigorous discussion of whether any mental disorders could be tolerated within the exceptional human structures needed to defeat enemies.

The Pentagon study never addressed the area of religious freedom, placing this form of discrimination for the first time among those restricted Constitutional guarantees inherent in military service. Previously the religious faith exception provided a critical foundation for surviving the grinding stresses and shattering experiences of warfare.

Basic theology explains why Jewish, Christian, and Muslim believers find their religious freedom evaporating with repeal. Followers of desert religions, who send their pastors into the chaplaincy and believers into military service, consider homosexual behavior unacceptable. It resides among the myriad sins entrapping fallen humanity.

For tens of millions “People of the Book” foundational Old Testament scholarship concludes homosexual relationships separate believers from God. When speaking of the character, identity, and purpose of God, He is spoken of as masculine, and all humans become feminine in relation to Him. Besides creating all things, God created heterosexual marriage as the earthy manifestation of the absolute unity and love He seeks with each person. Classical Semitic theology emphasizes identifying with God in spiritual intimacy, meaning any subsequent reasoning must proceed from that basic understanding.

Therefore after repeal, when believers reject homosexuality in counseling rolls and normal life activities, these people reside outside Constitutional boundaries guaranteeing religious freedom. They see themselves becoming guilty of at least cultural prejudice, if not criminality.

This debate veered into humanist social alchemy as a means to fabricate attachments to our Constitution and to dissemble concerning military operations. Unaddressed in the whole debate were the primary issues of Constitutional speech and religious freedoms, and of whether any mental disorders can be tolerated within the exceptional human structures needed to defeat enemies.


8 posted on 09/20/2011 1:53:27 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: traditional1

I think their campaign contributions and control of much of the infotainment industry are more important to him than their votes — plus the fact that he’s probably one of them.


9 posted on 09/20/2011 1:54:12 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: lbryce

***”As of today, patriotic Americans in uniform will no longer have to lie about who they are in order to...***

Hey Barry, how ‘bout YOU come clean about who you really are?


10 posted on 09/20/2011 1:56:06 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Those who love liberty love Sarah)
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To: lbryce

2012, Basic Training

Gunnery Sergeant Hartman: Who said that? Who the f*** said that?
Who’s the slimy little communist s***, twinkle-toed c**ks****r down here who just signed his own death warrant?
Nobody, huh? The fairy f****** godmother said it. Out-f*****g-standing!
I will PT you all until you f****** die! I’ll PT you until your assholes are sucking buttermilk!

Recruits: Thir yeth thir!


11 posted on 09/20/2011 1:56:24 PM PDT by tumblindice (Moderates like McCain and Dole do one thing well: dignified concession speeches. M. Steyn)
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To: lbryce

The LYING SOB in the White House and former secretary GAYtes did this to ous with a lame duck Congress. They leid and lied and lied about the subvject its impact and more. Its the sickest injustice as it will be used by gays as proof that they do nto have to PROVE inateness of CHOOSING TO BE GAY which is what most of them claim. No proof, NOTHING and now even others coming out (pardon the pun) to say they choose. They have won a victory that will most likely never be undone and will be the basis to ruin many good people by when they start to claim falsly that people should be courtmartialed for fictious hate-crimes (Read thought police)

This is a very bad day for America...she is fast fading into the past as a country no more. We used to stand for principles, now we believe the big lie of man-made global warming and the even bigger lie of being born gay and that its NORMAL!


12 posted on 09/20/2011 1:57:32 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: lbryce
Open homosexuals will neutralize the effectiveness of the troops on the battlefield. The military will cope with this. It it is already well advanced toward making it all irrelevant. The homosexualization of combat arms gives an extra kick to making the fighting soldier obsolete in favor of electronics. Homosexuals, open or not, in front of a keyboard or operating a mouse are not the problem that homosexuals on an actual battlefield would be. Troops on the ground, where needed will more and more consist of small highly specialized units that open homosexuals will not qualify for, and mercenaries.

I stress "open" homosexuals because the military has always had its share of homosexuals. When I was in I knew a sergeant of long duration who was one such. They are different. Their identity to themselves and to others is not their homosexuality. It is the military. They keep their proclivities to themselves, go to different bars when off duty and are discrete. They do not disrupt and are not a problem. Open homosexuals are political creatures whose entire identity and life are tied up in their homosexuality. Infantry units with such in their ranks will be in a constant state of agitation and not in prime condition for combat. The entire political system of the nation, now that homosexuals are"welcomed" into the military, will be putting legal and social pressure on the military to very quickly institute quotas for homosexual officers in every unit. The military will have to take large numbers of these "men" simply because these recruits are seeking free lifetime medical care for the AIDS they believe they will probably eventually have. Ultimately it will be irrelevant as the military becomes a totally computerized killing machine.

13 posted on 09/20/2011 2:02:43 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "ERo,ney cannot get enough socialist leaning "independents" conomics In One Lesson.")
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"We have a zero tolerance with regards to harassment,"

This is the part that was left out of the discussion.

14 posted on 09/20/2011 2:04:03 PM PDT by douginthearmy
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So now there’s nothing stopping the Commander-in-Chief from coming out of the closet, right?


15 posted on 09/20/2011 2:08:32 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: lbryce

It’ll be interesting to see how the first sexual harassment complaint against a homo is resolved.


16 posted on 09/20/2011 2:11:00 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: lbryce

Don’t ask. We can tell.


17 posted on 09/20/2011 2:15:42 PM PDT by boothead
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To: traditional1

That would be “twoop inspections.”


18 posted on 09/20/2011 2:16:01 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: lbryce
BIG BARRACKS PARTY TONIGHT!

Another Obama "First"


19 posted on 09/20/2011 2:27:24 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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To: traditional1

A sad day for the US Military.


20 posted on 09/20/2011 3:04:19 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

A sad day for the United States of America.


21 posted on 09/20/2011 3:23:39 PM PDT by lbryce (BHO:Satan's Evil Twin)
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The joint Chiefs should establish a new special forces division: The Gay Brigade!

Make them the tip of the spear (with little or no traing) for every single mission!

We’ll see how many want to join the services after that!


22 posted on 09/20/2011 3:33:05 PM PDT by NYTexan
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To: arthurus

I think it has been shown time and time again that homosexuals are a security risk.


23 posted on 09/20/2011 3:37:25 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: lbryce

All kidding and joking aside, this is an complete and utter disgrace on this fine nation!


24 posted on 09/20/2011 3:53:09 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: lbryce

The american military is no longer Mental its become Groinal..


25 posted on 09/20/2011 3:54:29 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: lbryce

Sen.Scott Brown agrees with obama.It came out from his office today.


26 posted on 09/20/2011 3:58:38 PM PDT by freedomtrail (EEOC- Eventual Elimination Of Caucasians)
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To: lbryce

A sad day for civilization.


27 posted on 09/20/2011 4:04:17 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: lbryce
He's focused like a laser on what...?
28 posted on 09/20/2011 4:04:37 PM PDT by Shqipo (I am AttackWatch parolee #1,237. I am again violating my parole.)
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To: traditional1

first thing the new president should do is overturn this pathetic mental sickness law.

Now homo’s can have homo parties in base.
Men can wear dresses after work on base.
same sex can kiss and hold hands on base.
Homo officers will give promotion to their homo.
women can buy strap on and both sexes can buy homo mags.
men forced to ahve showers with homos acting up.
survival training consists of men having to share sleeping bags with other men in cases of hypothermia.
the list is endless and this had better be overturned.
Hell not even a proper study was done over this but instead rushed through before the republicans took power.

All republicans which voted for this need to be targeted and booted out of office , same as those rats.

We’re talking about men thinking they’re women.
women wearing strap on and then thinking they’re men.
men [poking other men and they say this is normal, IS IT HELL

This pisses me off more than anything else this admin has done for a few reasons as a vet.

The marine corp still has alaw saying sodomy is illegal so how can this be now law


29 posted on 09/20/2011 4:17:23 PM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he's socially liberal on his show, another phony cashing in,marriage =1man +1 woman)
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To: MichaelCorleone

In the quote, he referred only to patriotic Americans. I guess America-hating Kenyans still have to get their kicks on the down-low.


30 posted on 09/20/2011 4:17:33 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: NYTexan

To adapt a line from the movie, “Stripes”:

Someday in battle, straight soldiers may save the life of a gay soldier.

Then again, maybe they won’t.


31 posted on 09/20/2011 4:23:53 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Obama's jobs speech: re-arranging deck chairs on his Titanic.)
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To: manc

Sex deviates are now forced upon society as “diverse lifestyles”, whereas we all (those of us with common sense) see it for what it is; and the deviance merely is a reflection of today’s societal breakdown where personal responsibilty, self-respect, moral character, and honesty have all been tossed aside in furtherance of gratification RIGHT NOW!


32 posted on 09/20/2011 4:24:55 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Cricket24

I had to turn off FOX. Shep was saying how the military still had a “way to go,” because homo partners still didn’t have benefits.

Give me a break. Isn’t it enough that my Marine son may be forced to share a room, alone, with a homosexual? That’s not exactly like sharing office space together.


33 posted on 09/20/2011 4:30:34 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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34 posted on 09/20/2011 4:32:08 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: lbryce

OK, now how many are there? What percent?


35 posted on 09/20/2011 4:41:01 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: lbryce

Moral revulsion and combat effectiveness aside, This will inevitably lead to wholesale contamination of the military blood supply. Thousands of legitimate and illegitimate service related aids cases will collapse the system ala clowardbpriven


36 posted on 09/20/2011 4:47:47 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Retain Mike

“Discrimination came from repudiating religious freedom for Christian, Muslim, and Jewish believers.”

You got that right. Now the military can and will FORCE believers to cohabitate with homosexuals.

I wonder how many straight liberals celebrating this “historic day” would be fine with being forced to living with a homosexual.


37 posted on 09/20/2011 4:48:51 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: tumblindice

"No queers in my beloved Corps!"

38 posted on 09/20/2011 4:52:07 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: keats5

I’m pert sure Shep is a flaming fag after he leaves work...

...not that there is anything wrong with that. (/disclaimer)


39 posted on 09/20/2011 4:56:47 PM PDT by NYTexan
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To: Soothesayer9

I have been trying to find a Internet Article I read back before gretawire forum got shut down by the Obots, and I still can’t find it, but I remembered something that was in it about how to handle people who may have AIDS and how you have to wear gloves and stuff. Has anybody mentioned that about this gay army stuff???


40 posted on 09/20/2011 4:57:01 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: Eagles6
Moral revulsion and combat effectiveness aside, This will inevitably lead to wholesale contamination of the military blood supply. Thousands of legitimate and illegitimate service related aids cases will collapse the system ala clowardbpriven

They've been able to legally serve, although not out in the open, for 17 years. Why would open service cause wholesale contamination of the military blood supply when it didn't happen during the 17 years when it wasn't knowable who is and is not gay under DADT? I'm not following the logic.

41 posted on 09/20/2011 4:58:46 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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OK, now how many are there? What percent?

That'll be an interesting stat.

42 posted on 09/20/2011 5:00:47 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
OK, now how many are there? What percent?

Well I won't know but if they give them extra benefits for being married their will be a bunch of them straight folks all of the sudden becoming gay and getting married just to get the extra bucks.

43 posted on 09/20/2011 5:09:26 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite (1 of 3 I'm only allowing my self each day)
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To: douginthearmy

My daughter is a former Marine; she told me when she was in the number one crime on her base was homosexual rape. I wonder if the government has a policy for dealing with homosexuals harrassing straights...


44 posted on 09/20/2011 5:12:15 PM PDT by Vor Lady (Everyone should read The Importance of the Electoral College by Geo. Grant)
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To: lbryce
How long do you think we'll have to wait before we begin hearing of homosexual NCOs (or even officers) raping recruits? Gonna happen. Count on it.

Sending your son off to serve in the military is going to be a lot like sending him off to serve a prison sentence, with organized homosexual gangs preying on the weak and, where gays manage to attain rank in numbers in a unit, forcing those soldiers who don't accede to their sexual demands to do all the most dangerous jobs in war zones.

45 posted on 09/20/2011 5:14:42 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: keats5
That’s not exactly like sharing office space together.

Excellent point. Share a room and the latrine including the shower. What's next? Coed dorms and unisex showers?

46 posted on 09/20/2011 5:16:15 PM PDT by MulberryDraw ( Where's the democrat budget? What's the plan?)
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To: SZonian
When you reject a superior officers gay advances, you could end up running across the next mine field.

Best to put a slug in his back and move on like a man.

47 posted on 09/20/2011 5:22:17 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: vox_freedom

Sure, the trash-can, garbage-collector, trailer-park queen, skank-bride is far and away the best, most ingenious mockery of Oprah that I’ve ever seen but the one of Obama, the moronic facial contortions that speaks volumes to the degree in which he is so unqualifiedly inept is a work of art, in a class by itself.


48 posted on 09/20/2011 5:22:48 PM PDT by lbryce (BHO:Satan's Evil Twin)
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To: arthurus
.... Ultimately it will be irrelevant as the military becomes a totally computerized killing machine.

They may invent something someday that makes the infantryman obsolete, but I can assure you it won't happen in our lifetimes or our children's lifetimes.
49 posted on 09/20/2011 5:24:15 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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50 posted on 09/20/2011 5:24:51 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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