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Obama Hails End of U.S. Military Restrictions on Gays ("Don't Ask, Don't Tell' ends today)
Reuters ^ | September 20, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 09/20/2011 1:41:43 PM PDT by lbryce

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To: Post Toasties

I think O’Bozo is smart like a fox...
He and his agenda buddies are just ticking things like this off the list...
They know it can never be reversed, like O’Bozo-care, and the pooch has been screwed...as have we all.


101 posted on 09/21/2011 6:56:15 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: manc

They won’t see any problems. It will all be covered up. Just peruse the reports I linked and make sure everyone know about what is currently happening. Sexual assaults for both males and females have risen in the military even though the number of GIs serving has shrunk. They claim its because of better reporting but I say BS on that.


102 posted on 09/21/2011 6:57:43 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: Bodie Weider

“Gay marriage wrecked my loving partnership with the perfect girl.”

May I ask in what way?


103 posted on 09/21/2011 7:06:52 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: matginzac

IMO, there will now be fewer gays in the military, whether or not we hear about it, and the taxpayers are going to have to fund “creative” recruiting to bring in more.

Will the ultra left wing college campuses now begin to allow recruiting?


104 posted on 09/21/2011 7:09:58 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: manc

“the list is endless and this had better be overturned.”

Yes. The big problem I have with this is that people with a stated sexual attraction will now be sharing quarters, showers and bathrooms. One “fair” thing to do would be to start allowing co-ed habitation for straight folks. All the straight men and women can bunk, shower, and excrete together, and the gays can be segregated similarly. Of course, this would never work in the military as we know it, either.

That leaves us with the “expensive” option - separate facilities for: straight men, straight women, gay men, gay women - and possibly some arrangement for neuters and transgenders of the various types. Possible, but expensive and you still have the problem of the two gay groups (men/women) living, working and fighting with possible/probable sexual partners. What exactly will go on when the lights go off? The mind boggles. Again, it’s not at all “fair” to the straight folks.

It’s a travesty, and clearly “a bridge too far”.


105 posted on 09/21/2011 7:11:17 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: USAF80

good luck pal.

I will become the last family member to serve now after many generations unless this gets changed.

This admin went right into this as a gesture to the homosexual agenda and with no thought for those serving especially those in combat units.

The military on the whole has become too PC and that needs to stop as well.


106 posted on 09/21/2011 7:12:00 AM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he's socially liberal on his show, another phony cashing in,marriage =1man +1 woman)
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To: lbryce

The U.S. military is underfunded, overburdened, falling behind in cyberwar capabilities, is bound up with untenable ROEs in Afghanistan...

And THIS is the “major accomplishment.”

My God... I miss America...


107 posted on 09/21/2011 7:14:27 AM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: keats5
Isn’t it enough that my Marine son may be forced to share a room, alone, with a homosexual? That’s not exactly like sharing office space together.

Unfortunately, the typical dumbassed American with no concept of the military doesn't make that distinction.

108 posted on 09/21/2011 7:17:27 AM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: LUV W

The rules absolutely DO apply. The fact that they don’t FOLLOW the rules doesn’t excuse them from being accountable to said rules.

Of course, I don’t for a second think you were implying they get a pass. I believe I know what you meant. I just wanted to clarify for anyone else who doesn’t... quite... get it.


109 posted on 09/21/2011 7:18:21 AM PDT by HushTX (I make libs rage quit.)
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To: treetopsandroofs

Maybe but especially in bad economic times, military service is attractive and now that gays can be “open”, it may make it more sensible for them to “serve”...
but as stated a lot on FR, this is NOT the end...
the agenda is full recognition of benefits, access to military facilities...everything a “spouse” enjoys...and, thanks to the generals and admirals who let this happen, they have every right to them.
Remember, O’bozo and his admin will NOT enforced the DOMA...
The door is WIDE open...


110 posted on 09/21/2011 7:27:25 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: HushTX

Thank you for saying it WAY better than I did. :)

I should have put a /sarc at the end. LOL!


111 posted on 09/21/2011 7:50:21 AM PDT by LUV W (zero IS a Fonzi Scheme!)
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To: anniegetyourgun

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=6611


112 posted on 09/21/2011 8:06:13 AM PDT by 444Flyer
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To: USAF80

We are going to find out about that over the next few years. Air Power alone would never work. It has won two, albeit small, wars to date. Things change. With homosexualization of the military they have to change and will because war cannot be successfully homosexualized in Euro-American culture. And I did not say that the battlefield troops will disappear though those with knee jerk reactions to individual words and phrases will react that way. On the ground will be very small highly specialized and trained units in which there will be no or a tiny minimum of homosexuals because homosexuals will not be able to get through the training and there will be various forms of what are essentially mercenaries.


114 posted on 09/21/2011 10:49:48 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: kabar
Now that DADT is ended officially the judges will get into this big time and quotas in all military categories will soon be required and the military will be tied up in discrimination and harassment litigation and legislation for a long long time. One would think that we could count on an incoming Republican and conservative president and Senate to reverse this nonsense but Republicans will not reverse or repeal anything at all of consequence. Elected Republicans and conservatives can be big on holding the line but that line is the line drawn by whatever the Left and Democrats have managed to attain.
115 posted on 09/21/2011 10:55:25 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: arthurus
It won't be overturned unless it can be documented that it is affecting operational effectiveness and the recruitment and retention of personnel.

DADT was a mistake. It just provided the foundation for what has just occurred. Once you allowed gays to be in the military covertly, it was just a matter of time before it would be allowed overtly. Next comes the rights and benefits of gay unions/marriage to match those now provided to married couples--a man and a woman.

116 posted on 09/21/2011 11:26:33 AM PDT by kabar
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To: 444Flyer

I’m still sickened beyond belief. WHere are the freaking Rs? WHy are they silent? Are they all on board with this disgusting evil? Or just chickens***?


117 posted on 09/21/2011 11:31:49 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: AbolishCSEU

The next president must repeal this and go back to “ask, tell, out the door if answer is wrong”.


118 posted on 09/21/2011 11:32:59 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: manc

The only candidate I trust even a little bit is Palin and she hasn’t announced. Romney I could puke on, Perry isn’t much better, just another slickster politician AFAIAC.


119 posted on 09/21/2011 11:36:11 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah

when he said states rights then to me it is a cop out.

The homosexual agenda is not just up to states , we have the federal level, military don’t ask which most certainly needs to go back to how it used to be.

Now we have lawsuits from homo’s, we have them saying they can go back, some are asking for years of back pay.

The whole thing was rushed through while ignoring many Generals and the Generals which said OK to this were looking for a promotion or a nice posting .
Now if anyone says a General would not do such a thing then I only have to point to the General who changed his statements regarding a certain company which is close to zero


120 posted on 09/21/2011 11:48:23 AM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he's socially liberal on his show, another phony cashing in,marriage =1man +1 woman)
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To: manc

I posted these already but I’m going to again, so they’re on this page of the thread. These are a must read for anyone who needs the facts about what mentally ill sex perverts do in the military. Claims that the EU or NATO has them with on problem is a lie.

Ten Reasons to Oppose an “LGBT Law” or Policy for the Military
The Center for Military Readiness ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608259/posts

Senate Testimony: European Militaries Are Not Role Models for U.S.
The Center for Military Readiness ^ | 3/22/2010
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608228/posts

Rates of Homosexual Assault in the Military Are Disproportionately High
FRC ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608306/posts

In Support the 1993 Law Stating that Homosexuals are not Eligible to Serve in the Military
CMR ^ | July 23, 2008 | Elaine Donnelly
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608370/posts

“THE REAL PENTAGON POLL: 91% OF SERVICE MEMBERS REJECT HOMOSEXUAL LEADERS - 1 IN 4 WOULD QUIT”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2635458/posts

“MILITARY: Marines lead opposition to repeal of ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2635350/posts

“Mullen: Troops Who Balk at Change in Gay Service Policy Can Find Other Work”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2636350/posts


121 posted on 09/21/2011 12:29:13 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah

and now a Navy top guy comes out saying the Navy is being hurt by PC.


122 posted on 09/21/2011 3:14:18 PM PDT by manc (Hannity admitted he's socially liberal on his show, another phony cashing in,marriage =1man +1 woman)
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To: Retain Mike

Good point Mike. It’s been discussed before but that survey was written in such a way to elicit PC responses. I received one as a military spouse so I saw it myself. Plus you have the “fear factor” for respondents if they are serving. There was pressure to be PC before this.

DADT worked fine because sexuality shouldn’t be anybody’s business in the first place. It’s just not relevant. My husband definitely worked with gay military members and who really thinks that a large percentage of women in the military aren’t gay? Like police and fire, it’s just the type of job that attracts lesbians. Well, except for all the women getting knocked up on Navy ships for example—another bright idea by the way—.

Anyway, my point is that it’s really nobody’s business and if you don’t shove it in most people’s face they really don’t care what you do in your private life, which is exactly as it should be.


123 posted on 09/21/2011 3:21:56 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: newzjunkey; chargers fan
http://www.usasurvival.org/ck05.27.10.html

The US military tests individual service members every 2 years for hiv.

Recruiters have been told to aggressively recruit homosexuals.

There are presently 19,000 hiv positive service members.

A person can have hiv for up to 90 days and not test positive on some or all tests. There is much conflict on the accuracy and standardazation of tests. So potentially a medic could have hiv for 2 yrs.3 months and easily pass it on to hundreds of personnel if in a combat situation.

In a mass casualty situation where blood is taken from any and everyone and used immediately or buddy transfusions occur the potential for transmitting hiv is astronomical.

124 posted on 09/22/2011 6:23:53 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: manc

I meant to ping that article out and now I don’t know where it is. If you see it could you ping me to it?


125 posted on 09/22/2011 6:26:38 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Eagles6
The US military tests individual service members every 2 years for hiv.

This is freaking insane. The leftists/faggots want to destroy the military. Every two years. And fags are really pushing to be able to donate blood. These two comments need repeating:

A person can have hiv for up to 90 days and not test positive on some or all tests. There is much conflict on the accuracy and standardazation of tests. So potentially a medic could have hiv for 2 yrs.3 months and easily pass it on to hundreds of personnel if in a combat situation.

In a mass casualty situation where blood is taken from any and everyone and used immediately or buddy transfusions occur the potential for transmitting hiv is astronomical.

126 posted on 09/22/2011 6:28:36 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Eagles6

1. Recruiters aren’t legally allowed to ask the sexual orientation of recruits (that was the whole issue in the 90s).

2. Blood donation screening as far as I know still asks if you engage in sexual contact with prostitutes, men, multiple people, etc.

3. What MOS were you?


127 posted on 09/22/2011 8:35:06 PM PDT by chargers fan
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To: chargers fan

1 Marines have a recruiting booth at homosexual community center this weekend. Speaks for itself. 2 People lie. 3 not relevant.


128 posted on 09/23/2011 12:53:41 PM PDT by Eagles6
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