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New heory Explains How Twin Towers Collapsed: Was Mixture Of Sprinkler Systems And Molten Aluminum
Eurasia Review ^ | September 22, 2011 | Eurasia Review

Posted on 09/21/2011 10:09:40 PM PDT by Ghost of Jesus Gil

Simensen claims that it is overwhelmingly likely that the two aircraft were trapped inside an insulating layer of building debris within the skyscrapers. This leads him to believe that it was the aircraft hulls rather than the buildings themselves that absorbed most of the heat from the burning aircraft fuel.

The SINTEF scientist believes that the heat melted the aluminium of the aircraft hulls, and the core of his theory is that molten aluminium then found its way downwards within the buildings through staircases and gaps in the floor – and that the flowing aluminium underwent a chemical reaction with water from the sprinklers in the floors below.

“Both scientific experiments and 250 reported disasters suffered by the aluminium industry have shown that the combination of molten aluminium and water releases enormous explosions,” said Simensen.

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To: Balata

The steel didn’t even need to melt, but simply get hot enough to weaken, to “lose its temper” in the original sense. Were blobs of melted aluminum found in the debris heaps that were the towers?


21 posted on 09/21/2011 11:56:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: bossmechanic

It’s amazing how people who think they know something come up with such boffos as “dillusional” [sic].


22 posted on 09/21/2011 11:57:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Nebr FAL owner

Sometimes called a thermite reaction.


23 posted on 09/22/2011 12:05:01 AM PDT by monocle
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To: bossmechanic

Erm, no. Aluminum + Iron oxide (from the building)= thermite, which burns hot enough to dissociate water into its atomic components. At that point, the oxygen just contributes to the burn. I’m not a chemist, but I know enough about thermite and oxidizers to posit that there might be something to this theory. Metal fires are very real, and can be really ugly things.


24 posted on 09/22/2011 12:18:13 AM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

In fact, an absence of blobs would give some credibility to this theory. There were aluminum planes, they had to go somewhere if no blobs were found. If this is right, that “somewhere” means “aerolized, mixed with oxygen, blown up and turned into grey dust”. Now, was some kind of greyish dust left in the debris? Was it perchance aluminum based?


25 posted on 09/22/2011 12:23:52 AM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: Little Pig

Quite possible, an exothermic reaction.
Interesting.


26 posted on 09/22/2011 12:28:37 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Nebr FAL owner

It also didn’t help that the ship was full of modern plastic materials (upholstery, insulation, cable coatings, etc.) that, when burned, give off very toxic gases. The Brits were not prepared to deal with them. And frankly, neither was the US Navy, who, subsequent to the Falkands War, instigated a major ship refit program to get the materials out of USN ships. However, with the number of ships to be retrofitted, this effort took some time. IIRC, toxic gas from burning plastics also made fighting the fires aboard the USS Stark in 1987 (http://search.aol.com/aol/search?query=USS+Stark&s_it=client_searchbox) difficult as well.

One of the last photographs of the Sheffield shows the ship burnt out from stem to stern with the surviving crew mustered aft on the helo flight deck waiting to be evacuated. Very sad end for a gallant ship.


27 posted on 09/22/2011 2:28:36 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (“Si vis pacem, para bellum” - If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The steel didn’t even need to melt, but simply get hot enough to weaken, to “lose its temper” in the original sense.


Thats all it took.


28 posted on 09/22/2011 2:32:26 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: Ghost of Jesus Gil

“combination of molten aluminum and water releases enormous explosions”

yep, I knew they blew it up /sarc (do you really need that?)


29 posted on 09/22/2011 2:52:27 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: bossmechanic
1. Any evidence of molten aluminum that “flowed” through the buildings? No

I don't know about that one. This past 9/11 I decided to watch History Channel's "102 Minutes that Changed America" (un-narrated running footage mostly from individuals who had camcorders) instead of the ceremonies.

One set of footage did show molten something or other - a lot of it - pouring out of a hole in a corner of one of the towers a couple/few floors below the impact point. I've seen lots of the WTC footage over the last 10 years (let's face it, all of us have) and had was really struck by how I'd never seen that piece before.
30 posted on 09/22/2011 2:59:27 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: bossmechanic

Do these people seem “dillusional?” This pdf takes a bit of time do load but it is worth reading.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CDAQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pyrotek.info%2Fdocuments%2Finsight_newsletter%2FAluminium_Insight_2011-02_Wise_Chem-Explosions.pdf&rct=j&q=alcoa%20lab%20explosion&ei=-Qd7Toa-Gs-utwfWp6QJ&usg=AFQjCNGDEbof_yzsT7yQ4WmLZOOFvYb_IQ&cad=rja


31 posted on 09/22/2011 3:08:15 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Ghost of Jesus Gil

1 more B.S. theory. The 10,000 gallons of K1 jet fuel combined with combustables, flamables, and the stack effect had nothing to do with it, it was the spinkler system. sarc. Science has really suffered in this country.


32 posted on 09/22/2011 3:27:48 AM PDT by VTenigma
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To: Nebr FAL owner

Ya know that sounds highly plauseable aided by the jet fuel which probably burst the oxygen tanks.
Powdered alumium and powdered rust with an oxidizer= thermit.
Potassium cloride and finely powdered aluminmum equal parts =flash powder. Solid magnesium burns hot (and bright)so will aluminum if flaked and it gets hot enough ,....


33 posted on 09/22/2011 4:13:33 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (To punish a province let it be ruled by a professor Fredrick The Great paraphrased)
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To: Ghost of Jesus Gil
The pitot tube in my airplane is aluminum casted. The heating element went on a thermal runaway and when the ice and water contacted the pitot tube during a flight in bad weather, the entire thing exploded off the wing and blew all my pitot static instruments to hell thru the tubing as a result of the explosion pressure.

Aluminum does not tolerate contact with water when molten. It does not sizzle, it explodes.

34 posted on 09/22/2011 4:33:57 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: meatloaf
"The fire on the Belknap was the reason the Navy went to steel superstructures for later ships."

I was in a whaleboat rescuing survivors the night of the Belknap fire (Boat Engineer, A-gang, USS Ricketts DDG5).

I remember seeing the superstructure the morning after and noting the extreme amount of damage from the aluminum melting. The forward smoke stack had actually melted and folded down upon a loaded ASROCK launcher. Had it been steel, some of the fire might have been contained and been easier to fight.

35 posted on 09/22/2011 4:59:37 AM PDT by roxtar221 (It's only hubris if I fail)
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To: SFConservative

Well, it least the “aluminum” crackpots weren’t saying Bush did it!


36 posted on 09/22/2011 5:06:28 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Christ came not to make mankind into God but to put God into men!)
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To: SFConservative

Well, it least the “aluminum” crackpots weren’t saying Bush did it!


37 posted on 09/22/2011 5:06:42 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Christ came not to make mankind into God but to put God into men!)
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To: monocle

Yup. Done by most of us (very carefully) in college chemistry lab.


38 posted on 09/22/2011 5:16:21 AM PDT by Mom MD (The country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: Ghost of Jesus Gil
"I just found it interesting as this seems to really be a good article to shut up all the conspiracy types"

I was thinking the same thing. This sure does explain away many of the seemingly plausible arguments the conspiracy crowd have.

39 posted on 09/22/2011 5:16:41 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

“I was thinking the same thing. This sure does explain away many of the seemingly plausible arguments the conspiracy crowd have.”

Maybe, maybe not...

It doesn’t explain everything like building #7 which fell around 5:20pm.

I believe that the Soloman Bros was under investigation at the time and miraculously ALL of the records were destroyed in that building.

Pretty convenient I would say...

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/11576/New_911_Building_7_Collapse_Clearly_Shows_Demoliti/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0GW6QXKyp0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7SwOT29gbc


40 posted on 09/22/2011 6:05:03 AM PDT by phockthis
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