Inexpensive, massive, SELF DEPORTATION! While we work to encourage the private sector to create jobs, we should be using the high unemployment rates to facilitate this deportation.
Posted on 09/25/2011 10:11:11 AM PDT by Eva
To listen to the recent Republican Presidential debates, you'd think illegal immigration was the biggest threat to the U.S. economy—not to mention to the rule of law, our social fabric and national security. We hate to spoil the political reverie, but the real immigration story these days is how many fewer illegal migrants are trying to get into the land of the free.
That's the news from the Department of Homeland Security, which reports that border apprehensions have dropped to their lowest level in nearly 40 years. For fiscal 2010, arrests were 463,000, down from 724,000 in 2008—a one-third decline in two years.
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Perry advocates the strongest border control, too. The reason that Perry does not support a fence in Texas (except in cities) is because the border runs through the middle of the Rio Grande in many areas and Texas cannot afford to lose a valuable source of water.
They'll go if the farmers pay them enough. The break point should be between cost of labor and automation, not cost of labor and cost of indentured labor.
Target figured out that it was cheaper to pretend to obey the law than to actually obey it.
When you are pandering to get votes, you can say and rationalize anything. The states that have the welcome mats out get more illegals. When you reward something you get more of it.
Inexpensive, massive, SELF DEPORTATION! While we work to encourage the private sector to create jobs, we should be using the high unemployment rates to facilitate this deportation.
Well, that might be true of some states, but that is not Texas.
Perry advocates a very strong enforcement of immigration laws. It would be difficult for him to have been pandering, since the state legislature passed the in-state tuition law ten years ago.
This is a well worn and often used axiom I go from my parents, you can want in one hand and take a crap in the other and see which one gets full first.
You and others may think it a very simple thing to get those on Welfare to “just go pick fruit” to earn your money. This is not a viable solution, if you did any research you would find that this type of labor is seasonal and migratory. And it is damned hard to do, no matter what simplistic I don’t care logic you may want to utilize, facts are funny things. I would ask if the role were to be put upon you, how would YOU respond. Could I expect then to see you and your family out in the fields 10-14 hours a day picking strawberries for the same pay because someone thinks you should?
Answer that one truthfully and not with the pat “I have a job” more typical of my fellow Freepers who want their own quick fix. More logical is a guest workers program which allows for migrant labor to take this on, it is after all a diminishing need as automation on the farm is rapidly negating many of the jobs. For smaller farmers dependent on this labor pool what do you suggest in your infinite wisdom they do, pick it themselves or sell out to a mega conglomerate for integration?
Try doing it yourself and then honestly looking at the issue and answering using information not emotions, something I expect from a Democrat but not a well informed Conservative.
Fire away, but remember no slogans or rants, provide the method you prescribe to “force” people to follow your leadership, the crown is on your head metaphorically so let’s hear your ideas.
I dare you to respond intelligently under these rules.
Very good posts from you two ladies!
Can you do basic math? It’s obvious you bought the Rick Santorum lie. The difference per year was $10k not $25k for the flagship schools.
It’s only 1% of all students that includes all types of schools like the much cheaper community colleges and trade schools. That difference being used was for the flagship schools that most of these students don’t attend.
If you are going to spew the obvious talking points do yourself a favor and get the real facts.
Ron Paul supports OPEN BORDERS!
No, it's not the Paulistas ~ it's the Perbots ~ people just like yourself. They are captives to the agricultural interests that depend on a large number of illegal aliens to keep the agribusiness going.
Common, everyday, ordinary Americans who all have 1 or more close relatives unemployed or partially employed, KNOW what the immigration debate is about ~ and illegal aliens are NOT part of the immigration debate. They stand outside of it. Plus, Obama has ordered his peeps to not stop so many of them.
The real argument is that the United States will never be able to “out cheap labor” China or Mexico. The only real hope for non-third world living standards is superior productivity/automation. Part time agricultural help should be temporary and well enforced - with the labor user’s paying all costs of the system up to and including a healthy bureaucracy.
The WSJ can always be counted on to support illegal immigration.
Too bad we can’t deport Paul Gigot and the rest of the traitors at that rag.
I think that the economic conditions are slowing the flow of illegals, looking for work.
If you want to see pandering and down right facilitating of illegal immigration, take a look at this employment agreement that was signed for the Port of Los Angeles.
..Of the estimated 6,000 jobs expected to be created through 2016, at least 30 percent will now be set aside for local residents, according to the agreement struck up with the Los Angeles/Orange Counties Building and Construction Trade Council.
Another 10 percent of the jobs will go to so-called at-risk workers, including those who are homeless, unemployed or have a criminal record. Additionally, at least 20 percent of the work will be performed by union apprentices as a way to develop their construction careers.
The rest of us simply take the top end tuition for your public universities, and it's $24,000 per year difference.
Let's put it to you this way. Two kids. Both born in Mexico, brought over the border, they go to Texas highschools and graduate.
Then one of them goes back to grandma's and figures he can do the 40 arpent farm deal and he does but he says to his family, "hey, peeps, I need an agronomy degree" so he goes to Mexico City to the US embassy and they write him out a STUDENT VISA.
About that time his cousin decides that chopping cotton in East Texas isn't all it's cracked up to so he applies to U of T and gets admitted, and shows up ~ and lo and behold he pays $5,000 per semester. His cousin who decided to take another crack at Mexico pays $34,000 per year.
As long as he has that visa Texas law says he has to pay the out of state rate.
Obviously the law is inherently inequitable.
I am not surprised no one in Texas can understand that.
“The other lie is that there is only about 12 million illegals when there is probably closer to 30 million!”
One of the Wall Street firms ran their own study almost 10 years ago in order to get a more accurate number than the politicized estimates handed out by the government. They came up with an estimate that was just below 30 million.
So unless the flood of illegals has slowed down in recent years your own guess of 30 mil might be a low count.
Of course not, so these silly WSJ polls that say that nobody needs to address illegal immigration are meaningless. War was ranked even lower. So if we get attacked tomorrow, the WSJ editors will say it is not a problem because it ranks so low?
The truth is that the greatest danger to our society and nation is not from outside or even from liberal democrats. It is from the likes of the Wall Street Journal, the Chamber of Commerce, and RINOs, who put greed and personal empowerment ahead of America.
Abraham Lincoln, were he around today, would be repeating his Lyceum speech of 1838, so prophetic of the war to come in 1861, and of our demise today:
At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it?-- Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never!--All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.
At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.
If you can't find labor you can afford to pick or tend your crop, you get a different hybrid that adapts well to mechanized handling and you buy the machines, or hire the crews with the machines.
You don't demand we supplant our native workforce with illegal aliens, and if lettuce goes to $50 a head, then it goes to $50 a head. Ever eat Whitlof? Expensive stuff Fur Shur. Enough of it to equal a head of lettuce is MORE than $50 ~ I love the stuff. Just don't eat it every day!
I have yet to see an honest editorial or news article from them on the subject.
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