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Hillary In 2012? Two Scenarios Expose Democratic Disarray
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| September 26, 2011
| Michael Goodwin
Posted on 09/26/2011 6:14:13 AM PDT by maggief
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posted on
09/26/2011 6:14:15 AM PDT
by
maggief
To: maggief
If Dems had half a brain, they’d run with Hillary-—why stick with Obama?
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posted on
09/26/2011 6:18:34 AM PDT
by
Rudder
(The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
To: maggief
Lucky for the DEMS, the GOP is in disarray as well.
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posted on
09/26/2011 6:19:28 AM PDT
by
Huck
(But the glass IS half-empty!)
To: maggief
Bill Clinton surfaced last week, and the former president pushed the Hillary door open a crack by saying some decidedly unflattering things about Obamas various proposals to raise taxes and cut the deficit.
It did seem that BJ was opening the door for a Hillary challenge, but then, BJ went golfing with The One over the weekend. Maybe, BJ was advising The One that he cannot win reelection with his approval now in the 30s.
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posted on
09/26/2011 6:21:07 AM PDT
by
TomGuy
To: maggief
Dems dumping Obama for Hilary has been my worst nightmare. She is only marginally more qualified and only slightly less liberal than Obama, but if she was to be the Dem nominee, she would be a very formidable candidate and the same gullible fools who bought Obama would probably line up behind her.
The only real negative for Democrats is the negative reaction within the black community. They might not forgive the Democrats for dumping Obama and stay at home in the election.
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posted on
09/26/2011 6:23:08 AM PDT
by
Sudetenland
(There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
To: maggief
At this point I would even take Bill back. (He DID leave us with a balanced budget)
But we would need another Newt in Congress to make it happen- and Boner is no Newt
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posted on
09/26/2011 6:24:18 AM PDT
by
Mr. K
(Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket~!!!)
To: Huck
Lucky for the DEMS, the GOP is in disarray as well.
Yep.
In the MSNBC debate, Williams and Co tried to get the GOP wannabes fighting amongst themselves. MSNBC failed.
CNN had better luck and got them firing shots. FoxNews got them to continue sniping at each other.
So far, the Media have been winning the GOP debates, as the GOP contenders shoot each other in the foot.
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posted on
09/26/2011 6:24:36 AM PDT
by
TomGuy
To: maggief
The statistics say they have to support Obama. Heard money ain’t rolling in like it did the last time.
To: TomGuy
I don’t think the MSM has anything to do with it. The quality of the candidates is the issue.
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posted on
09/26/2011 6:29:01 AM PDT
by
Huck
(But the glass IS half-empty!)
To: Sudetenland
The only real negative for Democrats is the negative reaction within the black community.
Two points:
- 16%+ unemployment in the black community.
- The Dem leadership would NOT be stupid enough [they aren't Republicans, remember] to overtly dismiss Obama. They would force him into some excuse [shades of LBJ] that make it seem not running was HIS idea/wish/choice. [Think 'family concerns' or feigned illness or some such.] Thus, the black community could easily support a new Dem nominee.
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posted on
09/26/2011 6:29:26 AM PDT
by
TomGuy
To: maggief
Even in the general election, Hillary would have to run against liberalism.
It’s all been tried, and it has all failed under Obama.
How does she garner the socialist Dem base, let alone the black vote? Does she defend Keynesianism and Obama care?
I don’t think she runs in a political climate that’s not good for any Democrat.
To: maggief
Deal was struck with ham hocks and zero during the primary 2008 and the Clinton/zero golf outing resently. It was to seal the deal. The progressive movement is a slow paced patient transformation. Ham hocks agreed to get some foreign policy experience aside from just being the former presidents wife so she could corner the market and have one up on all the GOP contenders. Zero was to break ground. I believe he will bow out due to ficticious health reasons Bubba will set him up at the UN so he could be president of the world, ham hocks will run and promise to set things straight and rally the independents. She is doing much of what Palin seems to be doing waiting for the opportunity. Ham hocks will enter the race soon after Palin does.
To: Rudder
"If Dems had half a brain,"They'd be libertarians!
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posted on
09/26/2011 6:32:13 AM PDT
by
Redleg Duke
("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
To: Huck
he quality of the candidates is the issue.
I have agreed with that since GHWB ran.
This is the best you [GOP] got: GHWB, Dole, GWB [2nd term disaster], McCain?
Too much sour milk and too little cream.
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posted on
09/26/2011 6:33:24 AM PDT
by
TomGuy
To: Mr. K
At this point I would even take Bill back. (He DID leave us with a balanced budget)Yes, but there were budgetary tricks, including some games with Social Security, shortening the maturity of Treasury debt, spending the "peace dividend." And, he also left us with an enraged Al Qaeda after the aspirin factory bombing and let Osama live even when he was in our sights.
To: TomGuy
All true, but many within the black community are buoyed by Obama's being President. They would experience a natural emotional deflation if he was to step aside for any reason.
I do not think they would turn out in support of any other candidate as they did for Obama. Even given the disenchantment, there is an emotional pull that Obama has and that no white candidate could duplicate. The only question is, would that be crippling for the Dem alternative?
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posted on
09/26/2011 6:35:57 AM PDT
by
Sudetenland
(There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
To: Sacajaweau
Libs don't seem too happy ...
Actress Barbra Streisand is seen in the crowd as she listens to President Barack Obama deliver remarks at the Clinton Global Initiative in New York, Wednesday, Sept. , 21, 2011.
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posted on
09/26/2011 6:46:24 AM PDT
by
maggief
To: maggief
40% of the country will vote for anyone with a (D) after their name on a ballot. Democrat strategy then is to pick up an additional 11% through moderates. This won’t work this time. So, they have to run their candidate(s) in the Republican party. Their candidate(s) will talk tough on finances and be easy on morality. The idea is to dishearten the social conservatives and allow the Democrat to win.
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posted on
09/26/2011 6:53:02 AM PDT
by
blueunicorn6
("A crack shot and a good dancer")
To: Pearls Before Swine
yeah, but still...
a balanced budget- (sort of) as opposed to this $1.4Trillion PER YEAR monstrosity.
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posted on
09/26/2011 6:56:26 AM PDT
by
Mr. K
(Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket~!!!)
To: maggief
If the dems ran Hillary, they would most definately have to work something out with Obama to save the black vote. Either have him drop out for family reasons or whatever, but to gain the black vote, he’d have to endorse hillary or something. It would all rest on Obama whether Hillary would stand a chance.
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posted on
09/26/2011 7:00:13 AM PDT
by
justice14
("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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