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Again! Supremes asked to look into eligibility
WorldNetDaily ^ | September 26, 2011 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 09/26/2011 7:56:20 PM PDT by circumbendibus

The dispute over Barack Obama's eligibility to be president erupted during the 2008 election campaign and featured among others a lawsuit filed on behalf of Ambassador Alan Keyes against California election officials who did not check whether Obama was eligibile. Now the 2012 campaign is charging ahead at full throttle, and the issue is still alive.

That's because the case was before the U.S. Supreme Court for a conference today. A conference is a meeting at which the justices decide which cases they will review. To date, none of the Obama eligibility challenges that have reached the high court have been accepted. It could be as long as a week or more before an announcement comes from the court.

Attorney Gary Kreep of the U.S. Justice Foundation is handling the case.

"If the U.S. Supreme court agrees to hear this case, and we pray that it will, it will send shock waves through the Washington political establishment," Kreep said. "It will mean that the Supreme Court is going to follow the lead of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals justice who has publicly commented that this is an important constitutional issue."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alankeyes; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; keyes; naturalborncitizen; obama; scotus; scotusbirther; tyranny
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When will someone running for president have the nerve to raise this issue? Obama and the Democrats are criminals. This isn't the time of Chester Arthur; this is the 21st century. The truth of certifigate is going to come out soon thanks to the internet conservative websites and publications like WND, Newsmax, and Post & Email.
1 posted on 09/26/2011 7:56:30 PM PDT by circumbendibus
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To: circumbendibus

If the GOP can come up with a winning candidate and not eat itself totally up, perhaps revenge is best served cold. Wait till the new president is installed, hopefully with substantial congressional coattails. Then land on Barack Obama with all fours for the fraud.


2 posted on 09/26/2011 7:59:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It would be bad strategy to go after Obama after he is out of office. Instead, go after those that are STILL in office and who helped him get into office. Going after Obama might be emotionally satisfying but it would be a waste of a chance to clean out the corrupt dems and disrupt their operations.


3 posted on 09/26/2011 8:02:38 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: circumbendibus
what really bothers me about this whole thing, is that apparently NO ONE has “standing” to do anything about this subject, which is almost as alarming to me as an actual coverup.
4 posted on 09/26/2011 8:03:24 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: circumbendibus

I don’t think the Supremes will touch it. They are still smarting about their minor intervention when the Florida Supreme Court tried to rewrite their own laws AFTER the election to favor Gore.

This would be a thousand times worse.


5 posted on 09/26/2011 8:05:12 PM PDT by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
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To: taxcontrol

Nancy Pelosi in prison Orange would be great to see. Then perhaps some of the officials in Hawaii. and then...


6 posted on 09/26/2011 8:07:19 PM PDT by Balata (It's 'WE THE PEOPLE' Obama, not 'WE THE SHEEPLE'!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It is BEST to get him out now so that his appointments and laws can be voided and we can go back to being a Republic.

After the election his appointments and laws will become permanent and we will be stuck with them.


7 posted on 09/26/2011 8:07:26 PM PDT by Crazy ole coot (obama was born a brit and is not a Natural Born Citizen)
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To: taxcontrol

Oh, it would shine a light on a bunch of cockroaches, not just Barack.


8 posted on 09/26/2011 8:07:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: TexasFreeper2009

And it’s maddening that there is no way to get a read out of the Court as to what the proper way IS to get a redress of this grievance. It’s like the blindfolded target throw at the carnival. One can scarcely ridicule the failures if the actual problem is the nine headed legal sphynx that sits in Washington.


9 posted on 09/26/2011 8:09:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: TexasFreeper2009; rxsid; Seizethecarp

Gary Kreep is the attorney here. Philip Berg, Hillary’s lawyer, was helping him out at the 9th Circuit Case. Maybe Hillary is behind this move as well. I don’t care, so long as the SOB, and I mean that literally, is removed from the White House by EOY.


10 posted on 09/26/2011 8:10:24 PM PDT by circumbendibus (Obama is an unconstitutional illegal putative president. Quo Warranto in 2011)
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To: Crazy ole coot

Not sure what the statute of limitations would be upon a fraudulent president. But pretty sure it does not end at the end of the pretender’s term. Those bells can’t be unrung and someone still has to answer for them.


11 posted on 09/26/2011 8:12:00 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I don’t get the lack of standing either. Every citizen and especially every taxpayer ought to have standing on this.


12 posted on 09/26/2011 8:12:49 PM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: Ronin

You have a point, Ronin, but Roberts was not Chief Justice then (Bush v Gore). This is on Robert’s shoulders and his first big test. He is failing miserably.


13 posted on 09/26/2011 8:13:36 PM PDT by circumbendibus (Obama is an unconstitutional illegal putative president. Quo Warranto in 2011)
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To: circumbendibus

Justices aren’t back from vacation until first part of October. Why would they agree on this one after turning down all the others?


14 posted on 09/26/2011 8:15:35 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: circumbendibus

” - - - a lawsuit filed on behalf of Ambassador Alan Keyes against California election officials who did not check whether Obama was eligibile. - - - “

Keyes is a very smart man, even smarter than Trump. I’d love to watch how THE NINE SUPREMES decide this one.

BTW, if Obama is declared an alien, will all of the legislation he signed be considered null and void ?


15 posted on 09/26/2011 8:17:26 PM PDT by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
what really bothers me about this whole thing, is that apparently NO ONE has “standing” to do anything about this subject, which is almost as alarming to me as an actual coverup.

That's the same problem that I have with this. This is a fundamental Constitutional issue and, IMO, ANY American citizen should have "standing". This is a big problem.

16 posted on 09/26/2011 8:17:58 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Go green - recycle Congress in 2012!!)
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To: circumbendibus

Pansies....the whole lot of them.

They knew going in.
When the economy collapses, they won’t have salaries, right?


17 posted on 09/26/2011 8:19:12 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: circumbendibus

I was just thinking (and that is dangerous), but isn’t the Supreme Court on recess until Oct?

And isn’t Kreep the same one that is fighting against Taitz?

Something is just not right about this.


18 posted on 09/26/2011 8:19:12 PM PDT by Crazy ole coot (obama was born a brit and is not a Natural Born Citizen)
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To: circumbendibus

Ping


19 posted on 09/26/2011 8:19:15 PM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: circumbendibus; Ronin
You have a point, Ronin, but Roberts was not Chief Justice then (Bush v Gore). This is on Robert’s shoulders and his first big test. He is failing miserably.

So pray for God to strengthen him. Lift him up in prayer.

20 posted on 09/26/2011 8:20:33 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: circumbendibus

Our Supremes are a bunch of cowards. They’re afraid to open up Pandora’s Box. They are doing the country no favors by weariing blinders about this issue of our illegal President. And they have everyone who is interested in seeing this case come to fruition stymied and caught in the Catch 22 of who the heck has standing if no one seems to have standing. Standing or no standing, that is the question.


21 posted on 09/26/2011 8:21:42 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: shield

The issue has now “ripened” or “seasoned” (whatever the legal jargon is) that it is now ready to be heard.

Why did the 9th circuit out of the blue grant an appeal to Taitz and Kreep? Dunno.

My guess is Hillary through Bill have the judges poised to act when the time is right. That’s only a guess. If she brings him down this way, she might feel she would not be tarnished and grab the Dem 2012 nomination.


22 posted on 09/26/2011 8:23:22 PM PDT by circumbendibus (Obama is an unconstitutional illegal putative president. Quo Warranto in 2011)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

In all honesty, one Congressman/Senator willing to potentially sacrifice his job could end this. Get on TV every chance and ‘create’ the controversy. You know they would slam him non stop...but that would cause THE PEOPLE to take it seriously.

“I’m willing to forfeit my job if that’s what it takes because my country and it’s people are more important than “ME”. And they are more important than a potentially ineligible President. WE, and history, must know the truth.”

If a person in that position has no standing, we have no country.


23 posted on 09/26/2011 8:29:35 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: DustyMoment

This won’t be the last one, either. With the illegal immigration issue ongoing in this country, there will certainly be more situations like this to follow. They need to take care of it NOW.


24 posted on 09/26/2011 8:30:30 PM PDT by ponygirl (People are calling our President the Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers; thatÂ’s not allowed is it?)
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To: flaglady47

I agree the Supremes are cowards. They met in secret with Obama after the election and before innauguration. That is criminal right there. There needed to be a record of those proceedings for the American citizenry.

Perhaps now, they see a chance to redeem themselves. OTOH, maybe they see themselves as being in an exclusive club. If Obama goes, Kagan and Sotomayor must be impeached/removed, too.


25 posted on 09/26/2011 8:31:22 PM PDT by circumbendibus (Obama is an unconstitutional illegal putative president. Quo Warranto in 2011)
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To: OldDeckHand; tired_old_conservative; Lurking Libertarian; JDW11235; Clairity; TheOldLady; ...

SCOTUS ping.

(Anyone on/off, freepmail me.)


26 posted on 09/26/2011 8:31:45 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: circumbendibus

Obamacare’s individual mandate would be ruled unconstitutional if the eligibility issue was first properly decided and Kagan and Sotomayor were gone by the time the case went before SCOTUS.


27 posted on 09/26/2011 8:36:45 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Crazy ole coot

Yes, the SCOTUS term begins in October, but they had a conference today to discuss cases and decide what they want to take up.


28 posted on 09/26/2011 8:38:36 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: shield

They didn’t agree on this one. All they did was put it on a list to be discussed and voted upon in conference. It’s not unusual.

They already had a conference scheduled today to review many cases. They’ll deny most without comment, but some they’ll grant. October is when they’ll begin hearing oral arguments.


29 posted on 09/26/2011 8:43:38 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: circumbendibus

I do hope the Court will earn their pay this go round. They don't get paid for skirting the difficult cases.


30 posted on 09/26/2011 8:44:50 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Not so sure that all the legislation passed under his occupancy of the office, and all appointments, would be voided.
Generally speaking, legislation takes more than the executive...the Senate and the House, of course. So, merely affixing his signature would likely not require that a piece of legislation be set aside if (when) he is found to be ineligible to hold the office.
As to appointments? Likely only those that did not require the ‘advice and consent’ of the Senate, for the same reason.

Now...executive orders? That’s a whole different issue...IMO.


31 posted on 09/26/2011 8:50:59 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: circumbendibus

The SCOTUS,FBI,CIA, NSA, etc. have happily supported this TREASON from day one. There’s nothing these folks don’t know if they want to. So, take it from there. They’re complicit.


32 posted on 09/26/2011 8:51:51 PM PDT by Waco (Nominate Palin or forget 2012 you lost)
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To: PubliusMM

You’re correct, but did you mean to reply to me? I wasn’t discussing that subject on this thread.


33 posted on 09/26/2011 8:59:25 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: PubliusMM

Generally speaking, legislation takes more than the executive................

That is basically correct, however a “bill” does not become “law” until the President signs it or his veto is overridden. Therefore any “bill” that he signed would become null and void as if it never existed because a “President” did not sign it and it was not a overridden veto.

All of his appointments would also be null and void since a President has to submit the name to the Senate to approve. If a President did not submit the nomination (with an ineligible president ((citizen?) obama) submitting the name, it would be the same as if you or I submitted the name. Therefore it would be null and void.


34 posted on 09/26/2011 9:03:43 PM PDT by Crazy ole coot (obama was born a brit and is not a Natural Born Citizen)
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To: circumbendibus; AZ .44 MAG; Safrguns; repubmom; Hotlanta Mike; nikos1121; YellowRoseofTx; ...

Ping


35 posted on 09/26/2011 9:04:05 PM PDT by null and void (Day 978 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: Crazy ole coot
Generally speaking, legislation takes more than the executive................

That is basically correct, however a “bill” does not become “law” until the President signs it or his veto is overridden. Therefore any “bill” that he signed would become null and void as if it never existed because a “President” did not sign it and it was not a overridden veto.

All of his appointments would also be null and void since a President has to submit the name to the Senate to approve. If a President did not submit the nomination (with an ineligible president ((citizen?) obama) submitting the name, it would be the same as if you or I submitted the name. Therefore it would be null and void.


And that is precisely why, at this point in time, the eligibility "issue" is nothing more than a circus sideshow. Do you really think that the Supreme Court is going to indulge circumstantial niceties about eligibility in the face of the disaster that would cause?
36 posted on 09/26/2011 9:05:59 PM PDT by Oceander (www.attackwatch.com - don't forget to turn yourself in!)
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To: Crazy ole coot

It is BEST to get him out now so that his appointments and laws can be voided and we can go back to being a Republic.

Hear hear, so let us hope the SCOTUS can grow a pair and get this done, had great hopes for the Roberts court, but he seems to have been absent the last few years


37 posted on 09/26/2011 9:13:03 PM PDT by munin (s)
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To: Oceander

I’m not going to guess what the Supreme Court will or won’t do. I’m just expressing my opinion based on many years of living and going to school when education was the purpose of school.

Another question that I never see being asked, based on questions of Mr. obama’s background is; what is his legal name and is that the name he is signing the bills with? What happens if, after he is gone (replaced or fired) it is discovered that he signed the bills into law using a fake name??


38 posted on 09/26/2011 9:14:42 PM PDT by Crazy ole coot (obama was born a brit and is not a Natural Born Citizen)
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To: circumbendibus
Thanks for the ping.

One noteworthy event since Kreep and Taitz filed this appeal of the denial of their motions for discovery is Obama’s “release” (well, public disclosure of a pdf if not legal release) of the very same LFBC document that the discovery motion was supposed to get into evidence.

I would expect that all things being equal, SCOTUS might regard Obama’s semi-release of the LFBC to constitute a semi-waiver of his “privacy rights” (so-called rights to fail to demonstrate eligibility to be POTUS).

IIRC the case will hinge on whether the lower court ruling is upheld that Keyes and the other candidate did not have a right to contest the eligibility of Obama because they "couldn't win." Even the appeals court judges squirmed over that at their hearing.

39 posted on 09/26/2011 9:27:11 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Crazy ole coot

It is BEST to get him out now so that his appointments and laws can be voided and we can go back to being a Republic.

After the election his appointments and laws will become permanent and we will be stuck with them.

I agree!!! The time is now to confront Obama. He needs to be removed & get rid of ALL of his Appointments & Laws before they become permanent


40 posted on 09/26/2011 9:38:35 PM PDT by ebysan (ebysan)
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To: circumbendibus
So Gary Kreep and Orly Taitz may get a hearing at the Supreme Court? . . and today we hear Obamacare is getting the fast track to the Supremes? Nah, can't be a connection, . no, wait, I mean, . . what if? . .

It was small, but do you remember this SCOTUS vigil on December 5, 2008?

How about a humongous one this time?!

41 posted on 09/26/2011 9:49:45 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

By the time a new POTUSA is installed Obama will have been long gone with many dollars supplied by enablers like Soros and his own stash. No,it is very much the best to expose Obama and all of his enablers and punish them all for creating chaos in the USA.


42 posted on 09/26/2011 10:14:13 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: noinfringers2

If apparatus to get Obummer and cronies in dutch simply does not exist until 2012-2013 — we must bow to reality.


43 posted on 09/26/2011 10:17:39 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: circumbendibus
Think the whole birther thing is a dead issue? Hell no, Sheriff Joe is on it Here. Lots of other data. . .
44 posted on 09/26/2011 10:52:01 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: null and void

Thanks for the ping.


45 posted on 09/27/2011 12:10:41 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: All

Unfortunately, I don’t think throwing Zero out of office will automatically void all of his official acts. I think those acts would still be valid under the “de facto officer” doctrine.

The US Supreme Court has cited the following description of the “de facto officer” doctrine (Norton v Shelby County 118 US 425 (1888)):

“An officer de facto is one whose acts, though not those of a lawful officer, the law, upon principles of policy and justice, will hold valid, so far as they involve the interests of the public and third persons, where the duties of the office are exercised:

...Under color of a known election or appointment, void because the officer was not eligible, or because there was a want of power in the electing or appointing body, or by reason of some defect or irregularity in its exercise, such ineligibility, want of power, or defect being unknown to the public.”

I know some here will argue that Zero’s “ineligibity” is in fact “known to the public” but I disagree. Many in the public suspect him of not being a natural born citizen, including me, and a minority of the public believe he is not a natural born citizen either because his father was a foreigner or because they believe Zero was born outside the US, but when we speak of the public at large most people would say they either he is NBC or they are not sure or don’t bother them because they are busy watching “Dancing with the Stars”.


46 posted on 09/27/2011 12:46:46 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss (Herman Cain: We can have high fences and open doors, all at the same time!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
which is almost as alarming to me as an actual coverup.

PLEASE! Are you implying you don't think there was/ and is an active coverup?

Are you also wondering whether there is an actual coverup in FAST AND FURIOUS (GUNRUNNER)?

Are you waiting for the MSM to tell you the TRUTH?

The REPUBS are playing the game such that this is NOT settled by the courts, they want Americans to remove this clown from office. If the IMPEACHMENT MOVE is played, they fear that the DEMS will play Bill Clinton's "I WAS A VICTIM" counter move

47 posted on 09/27/2011 3:24:41 AM PDT by politicianslie (plug in RADICAL MUSLIM into Obama's idiotic actions and you can figure out his next moves)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“what really bothers me about this whole thing, is that apparently NO ONE has “standing” to do anything about this subject, which is almost as alarming to me as an actual coverup.”


Yes, this issue has risen to near the top for me when it comes to Obama. Who DOES have standing? As far as I can tell no one does. No Person, No Organization, not even G*D Almighty seems to have standing.

And if all that is true... This is not a representative republic as the founders gave us. This is a serial Monarchy where we choose our monarch every four years. That is until the latest one decides he REALLY likes the job and wants to make it permanent.


48 posted on 09/27/2011 3:32:14 AM PDT by The Working Man (The mantra for BO's reign...."No Child Left a Dime")
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To: Meet the New Boss
I don't think throwing 0bama out of office will void all his acts either. I think it will open up the debate and calls for repeal of those acts.

Also, I don't believe he acted in a vacuum in regards to this issue. This issue would bring down some of the biggest names of the DNC. Pelosi is one who comes to mind. If such a conspiracy were to even be suspected to exist, the undoing of much of the harmful legislation and repeal of the same would be much more forthright.

49 posted on 09/27/2011 3:36:37 AM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: The Working Man; circumbendibus

“Yes, this issue has risen to near the top for me when it comes to Obama. Who DOES have standing? As far as I can tell no one does. No Person, No Organization, not even G*D Almighty seems to have standing.”

You seem confused. The case at issue is Keyes v. Bowen, in which standing was never at issue. It’s a California state case, so the federal standing doctrine doesn’t apply.


50 posted on 09/27/2011 4:02:44 AM PDT by BladeBryan
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