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Mexican attorney general demands explanation on Operation Fast and Furious
AHN News ^ | September 27, 2011 | Tom Ramstack

Posted on 09/27/2011 2:51:04 PM PDT by opentalk

Washington, DC, United States (AHN) –Mexico’s attorney general is demanding an explanation from the United States as evidence grows the Obama administration was more deeply involved in Operation Fast and Furious than top officials admitted in previous statements.

Operation Fast and Furious was a federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives effort to track more than 2,000 smuggled guns to Mexican drug cartels by allowing gang members to purchase them illegally from U.S. gun stores then take them back to their leaders. However, the federal agency lost track of many of the guns.

Some later were traced to murders of police and civilians in Mexico. Officially, the Justice Department says the operation backfired but did not admit U.S. agents sold the guns to the Mexican smugglers.

In June, President Barack Obama said he would take “appropriate action” against organizers of the operation. He said it never was approved by top Justice Department officials.

Investigative news stories this week cast doubt on reports of no high-level government involvement. Documents obtained from Fox News show ATF agents sold some of the guns to gang members. They allegedly purchased the guns with taxpayer money.

Mexican Attorney General Marisela Morales called Operation Fast and Furious “an attack on Mexicans’ security.” She said she learned about the operation in the news media rather than being told about it in advance by U.S. government officials.

She said that if U.S. federal officials were involved, it would be a “betrayal” of Mexico while its police and military were fighting a war against drug cartels. More than 40,000 people have been killed in the war that started in December 2006.

Morales said she would await results of congressional investigations into the operation before making any conclusions over who should be blamed.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Mexico; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
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1 posted on 09/27/2011 2:51:08 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

I predict the WH response will be F**k OFF (Operation Fast and Furious).


2 posted on 09/27/2011 2:57:49 PM PDT by hflynn
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To: opentalk
It's simple. Extremists within the executive branch decided that they could flood Mexico with weapons from the us and in turn, it would give them cover foe gun Prohibition laws.
3 posted on 09/27/2011 2:58:10 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: opentalk

If this guy can get Washington to come clean on what all happened, maybe he could let us in on it.


4 posted on 09/27/2011 2:58:22 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: opentalk

Don’t think you have any standing there, Mehico, soz yo.


5 posted on 09/27/2011 3:06:36 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: opentalk

The people of the United States would like an explanation also. For once in their life, our government should try telling the truth. It might actually feel good. The truth is going to come out, just like Solyndra and people are going to jail. It will all depend on who drops the dime first. Those caught in the net will wish they turned first.


6 posted on 09/27/2011 3:06:36 PM PDT by RC2
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7 posted on 09/27/2011 3:06:47 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: opentalk

“Shucks, we’re so embarrassed....See, we were trying to repeal the 2nd Amendment, and all, and make it so bloodily violent in your country that a major portion of your population would move north to vote liberal in US elections....see...?”

NIIIIICE...!!!


8 posted on 09/27/2011 3:14:59 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: colorado tanker
She is new to the position, from April 2011 link

In nominating Marisela Morales, Calderon said the current head of the organized crime special investigations unit "enjoys prestige inside and outside the country."

Earlier this month, Morales was presented with a 2011 Women of Courage Award in Washington by U.S. first lady Michelle Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.


9 posted on 09/27/2011 3:20:57 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Since US officers were directly involved and this was an export of US weapons, I believe this would REQUIRE licenses from the US Dept of State.

If they didn’t do that then EVERY person involved in the authorization and transfer chain is guilty of major felonies —perhaps hundreds of them, since this maybe have happened hundreds of times.

Then there is also the matter of circumventing the FBI instant background check system, and knowingly providing weapons to felons.

Then there’s the fact that the end-users were transnational narcoterrorists —that’s bad. Just about every federal LE document is replete with mentions of, “the rise of dangerous new trans-national criminal actors”. I mean combatting this new subtype is hot, hot, hot.

But here, US law enforcement played ARMS SUPPLIERS to them..! Knowingly, and with tax-payer money.

I’m still getting over believing all this —it’s completely amazing.


10 posted on 09/27/2011 3:22:13 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: opentalk

We let these idiots buy weapons up here to see where they’d end up and it not surprisingly ended badly.

But that’s not important right now.


11 posted on 09/27/2011 3:29:21 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: opentalk

Congrssman Issa should invite the Mexican attorney general to testify. It would make the Republicans look sympathetic towards Mexicans and it would make 0bama look bad. This is one of the few times that Mexico has a legitimate beef with the U.S. goberment.


12 posted on 09/27/2011 3:30:41 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: All
AG Morales stated "she would await results of congressional investigations into the operation before making any conclusions over who should be blamed."

Hey AG Morales, all you got to do is follow the line of sh*t, it will lead you right to the A$$hole.

13 posted on 09/27/2011 3:34:58 PM PDT by 41Thunder (The SUPPLY of Government is GREATER than the DEMAND of the people)
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To: RC2

“It will all depend on who drops the dime first. Those caught in the net will wish they turned first.”

Someone explain this to me.

Aren’t there many rank and file ATF agents that would have some information to give here?

Are they not regular Americans who aren’t digging the whole marxist, anti-America, anti-Constitution thing?

Aren’t they worried that those weapons will come back to kill either themselves or at least a fellow agent?

Are they proud to be arming Mexican drug cartels?

Are they proud to be destabilizing the rule of law in America? Not to mention Mexico?

Do these agents have children?

Are they glad a border agent was murdered and they are covering that up for a Marxist?

Aren’t most of these agents former military members?

Shouldn’t there be a line out of Issa’s office and around the building of agents wanting to be whistle blowers?


14 posted on 09/27/2011 3:44:28 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: forgotten man
This attorney general is new (April). The last one resigned. From a quick search - it seems he, Chavez, avoided talking about Fast and Furious

link

...(Chavez) also may have been harmed by ongoing revelations that U.S. officials allowed weapons to be smuggled to known traffickers as part of a federal operation to track down kingpins. Chavez repeatedly avoided appearing before the Mexican Congress to testify about what he knew about the program.

15 posted on 09/27/2011 3:46:00 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
"Mexican attorney general demands explanation on Operation Fast and Furious"

Holder- "These things take time, senor!".

16 posted on 09/27/2011 4:05:07 PM PDT by Free in Texas (Member of the Bitter Clingers Association.)
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17 posted on 09/27/2011 4:13:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: opentalk

Considering this Dog and Pony show will have no real results, nobody will be prosecuted, zip,zilch,nada. I propose a lobbying campaign to The Attorney General of Mexico, asking him to Indict the Whole Bunch from Eric Holder on down, Issue Felony Murder Warrants and Gun Smuggling Charges then we just need to allow their extradition once Mexico makes a formal demand. I see no LEGAL reason they they could fight EXTRADITION with. Seems to me there is more than enough evidence to convict ALL OF THEM IN MEXICO, right now, without any further investigation.


18 posted on 09/27/2011 6:20:38 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: RichInOC
We let these idiots buy weapons up here to see where they’d end up and it not surprisingly ended badly.

It's worse than that. Much worse.

First, we not only let them "buy weapons up here", we gave them the money to make the purchases! Over $10 million was funded in Porkulus for Fast & Furious gun purchases.

Second, there was absolutely no effort to "track" the weapons. The only appropriation and effort made to track the weapons was by an individual ATF agent who, recognizing this flaw, bought two GPS devices at Radio Shack out of his own pocket. He incorporated them into a pair of shipments, but the batteries gave out before he could learn anything.

That was the only effort that the ATF, the FBI or DEA made to "track" the weapons.

So, obviously, "tracking" the weapons was not the point of the operation.

In that case, what do you suppose it was all about...???

19 posted on 09/27/2011 6:48:01 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: opentalk

And from another thread we’re seeing that grenades were also involved. I’m speechless.


20 posted on 09/27/2011 7:27:38 PM PDT by printhead (Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
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To: eyeamok; opentalk

Mexican Attorney General Marisela Morales

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I know you're not the only one -- but I'm too lazy to leave the editor, go back through the thread, and address all the other folks who can't read...

(Courtesy ping to OP...)

21 posted on 09/27/2011 8:56:19 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: printhead

And from another thread we’re seeing that grenades were also involved. I’m speechless.


And so is the pravda media!!!!


22 posted on 09/27/2011 8:59:31 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: okie01

what do you suppose it was all about...???


Comments made about 2nd Amendment being dealt with under the radar...I am guessing that is what you are alluding to...


23 posted on 09/27/2011 9:02:37 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: TXnMA
Now you did it you...you...Correction Nazi, you!
{;^)
24 posted on 09/27/2011 9:07:48 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: opentalk
Earlier this month, Morales was presented with a 2011 Women of Courage Award in Washington by U.S. first lady Michelle Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Man, talk about a kiss of death. This is as bad as putting a price on her head.

25 posted on 09/27/2011 9:12:34 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: bushwon
Comments made about 2nd Amendment being dealt with under the radar...

Precisely. Recall earlier this year...when Obama, Holder, Hillary and Napolitano all piped up at about the same time...all remarking about "the flood of guns into Mexico from our Southwestern states" and how "something would have to be done to stem the tide".

The allusion was that the "something" would have to be some form of gun control.

Moreover, the fact that the President and three cabinet officers all seem to have been on the same propaganda page certainly suggests that the White House and all three Departments were in on the caper.

There literally seems to have been no other purpose to the operation. Unless it was to arm an insurgent group in a neighboring sovereign state. Which, in its own way, is everey bit as troubling.

26 posted on 09/27/2011 10:36:22 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: opentalk

Hey Zero, Mexico is calling and they have your balls in a purse.


27 posted on 09/27/2011 10:37:48 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: opentalk

I’m glad Mexico is angry; they should be. As punishment, they could take all their citizens and go home.


28 posted on 09/28/2011 12:59:54 AM PDT by newzjunkey
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