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Action Needed: Obama's Internet Takeover to Begin Nov. 20
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Posted on 09/28/2011 2:06:37 PM PDT by SandRat

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To: nascarnation
A few FReepers said the Clintons would never allow another election. That didn’t happen. I’m betting we’ll have an election in Nov 2012.

Yep just like we had in 2000 & 2004. What did we get for POTUS? A media created Globalist who's domestic policies as well as foreign trade policies by in large set the stage for the abuses we see under Obama. Yes I'm talking about GW Bush.

So what does the media have planned for us 2012? Same thing as we saw in 2000 several Media endorsed and created NWO Socialist choices ready no matter who wins DEM or GOP to put more such policies in place. We live under a one party government. There is no Democratic and Republican Parties. We simply have a well organized groups sharing criminal powers to rule our lives.

61 posted on 09/30/2011 6:11:58 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: rarestia

We have been past that for decades.


62 posted on 09/30/2011 6:21:34 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: BlackSeal

“I am a long time Republican and conservative but I cannot understand the great hatred of net neutrality shared by my fellow conservatives. Do you really want to see an internet that allows preferences of packet transmissions? Do most of you really even understand what that means?

I’m not about wanting to see my ISP be able to charge me an extra $XXX dollars a month just so I can pull up google.com in under 3 minutes over someone who pays an $XXX extra a month so their Skype packets get priority over mine. That would be at best. At worse (and more likely to occur) would be ISP’s creating packages of sites that you can access for extra fees over not even being able to get them at all. Want to be able to pull up google/FR/foxnews, etc? Great! Just pay an extra $50 a month and you’ll have access to them. Don’t pay and they don’t come up.

Or am I just not understanding the whole ‘net neutrality’ thing??”

I don’t claim to know all the ins and outs of ‘net neutrality’, but I vehemently oppose it for the following reasons:

1. It is a solution looking for a problem-the above scenario you describe is NOT happening and is not likely to happen if the govn’t gets out of the way and lets the free market take care of itself.

2. Liberals lie! Whenever a liberal/socialist administration proposes doing something under the guise of ‘fairness’ or ‘neutrality’, you can pretty well bet-as was the case with the Fairness Doctrine years ago, that their regulations will have the opposite effect. Bottom line-I don’t trust anything this administration does, cause I fear the underlying motivation is more control over our lives.

3. The courts have stated clearly that the FCC has no authority whatsoever to impose this, and yet they don’t appeal to a higher court, they just completely ignore the court ruling and move forward to impose the regs anyway. Based on this fact alone, EVERY person who calls themselves a “lifelong” Republican or conservative should be 100% opposed to this.

If there’s really a problem that needs addressing, let the administration take it before Congress and ask them to write a new law to fix it. That’s the way our Republic works-at least it was until this regime took over.


63 posted on 09/30/2011 6:22:48 PM PDT by lquist1
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To: haircutter
Dear Haircutter:

I understand where you are coming from, but I also understand where Okie is coming from.

I recognize that the circumstances of this situation take it outside of the norm; he was on foreign soil, taking up arms against our fine soldiers, working with the enemy. That should ease any trepidation we feel, since war is, by it's very nature, brutal and imprecise. Soldiers should not be expected to act as police officers in the middle of battle; they need to focus on their survival and on accomplishing the mission.

God bless them for everything they do.

As to Okie's point, though, in another time, with a different President, we would not even think of guns being turned on law-abiding American citizens. Unfortunately, twice already, with a Democrat President (Project Meggidio under Clinton and Big Sis Napolitano under Bambi) the official position of the FedGov has been to brand white conservative Christians as a standing threat to America.

If we hail the death of an American (even a sleazy one like this creep) without due process, we are opening ourselves up for similar treatment in the future when the power of the FedGov turns on us.

Sadly, it has started this way in other countries, so there is enough historical precedent that Okie's concerns are not as unfounded as they may seem.

Her comment was not one against our soldiers, the war effort, or in support of terrorism. Her comment was an expression of concern (which, added to the other activities of this Administration, should give pause) that the liberties our soldiers are fighting to protect are being undermined by those in the FedGov giving the orders.

64 posted on 09/30/2011 6:59:57 PM PDT by TheWriterTX (Rock you like a Herman Cain 2012)
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To: BlackSeal
I’m not about wanting to see my ISP be able to charge me an extra $XXX dollars a month just so I can pull up google.com in under 3 minutes over someone who pays an $XXX extra a month so their Skype packets get priority over mine.

Has your ISP ever stated they are planning on doing this? Or any other ISP, for that matter? This is a solution in search of a problem. And let's not kid ourselves, when the Left is so strongly behind an initiative with seemingly good intentions, it is time to watch the other hand. That is ALWAYS how the Left pushes the ball down the field. Their real goal is to control the message again, as they have lost it due in large part to the existence of the Internet. They controlled the flow of information for a long time, which allowed them to shape the debate in this country for several decades. But they've lost that control and they want it back. Frankly, I think the court that told the FCC that they have no jurisdiction here should slap them with a contempt of court order.

65 posted on 09/30/2011 7:49:09 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (Looking forward to kicking Chicago out of Washington.)
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To: SandRat

Screw your petition, it will not allow you to sign without PAYING them. Don’t waste my dang time in the future.


66 posted on 09/30/2011 7:55:23 PM PDT by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
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To: SandRat

Screw your petition, it will not allow you to sign without PAYING them. Don’t waste my dang time in the future.


67 posted on 09/30/2011 7:55:53 PM PDT by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
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To: rarestia

We have to start crime suits against the government and pointless civil suits. Then we got to enforce the results and dare them block the law. It needs to be organized as they do affirmative action: presumption of guilt and constant state of prosecution. Dare them shut us up.

Community “organizing” my arse, this is f@g union conspiring.


68 posted on 09/30/2011 8:24:27 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: SandRat

Why’s the internet not abuzz?

This “all smiles” - “keep shoping for Bushobama” - is the hallmark of dum and dont criticize weak uprofessional f@g gov. country, it’s pityfull.


69 posted on 09/30/2011 8:58:06 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Major Matt Mason

>>Has your ISP ever stated they are planning on doing this? Or any other ISP, for that matter?

Twenty years ago, who would have thought that banks would start charging $5 a month to use a debit card? After all, ATM cards and debit cards were pushed by the banks because they wanted to reduce staff at the branch and the check-processing facilities. Now, they tell us that they’re losing money on our ATM and debit cards so they need to charge us another FEE. The internet of the future will use microtransactions to charge us for content that we want to see. They just need to work out the mechanisms and and way to insure that all the corporations involved profit from them before they drop it on us. Like ATM and debit cards, we can’t imagine a world without the internet so we’ll pay whatever tribute they demand.


70 posted on 10/01/2011 4:53:10 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: SandRat; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; Bikkuri; ..
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Action Needed: 0bummer's Internet Takeover to Begin Nov. 20

Check out article.

Here's more:

Government Orders You Tube To Censor Protest Videos

http://current.com/1gdhikc

71 posted on 10/01/2011 6:59:34 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: TheWriterTX

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPm8saNhbuQ


72 posted on 10/01/2011 7:59:32 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: SandRat

Bttt


73 posted on 10/02/2011 3:52:22 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: Rocky

Bump that


74 posted on 10/02/2011 6:57:39 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: Rocky

“If Thomas Jefferson were alive today, he would be composing a new Declaration of Independence, proclaiming the overthrow of this tyrannical regime.”

Jefferson wouldn’t have waited this long... He would have been losing it back during the depression and “New Deal” for sure.


75 posted on 10/02/2011 10:13:34 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: SandRat; All

INCH BY INCH,

STEP BY STEP

WE ARE LOSING OUR FREEDOMS,

OUR JOBS,

OUR CHOICES,

OUR MONEY,

OUR CHILDREN ARE BEING TAUGHT SOCIAL JUSTICE,

OUR CHILDREN ARE BEING BRAINWASHED.

WE ARE HAVING OUR POWERS SEIZED

THEY MAY DECLARE SUSPENTION OF ELECTIONS SOON,

THEY MAY DECLARE MARTIAL LAW

IS THERE AN ACT THAT WILL GET US INTO ACTIVE PROTESTING

NOT JUST SITTING IN OUR CHAIRS GROUSING

BEING WILLING TO REJECT THESE ACTS OF TYRANNY?

DO YOU WANT A DICTATORSHIP? ...

ALA CUBA? VENZUELA?

AFTER IT HAPPENS IT IS TOO LATE.

WE MUST GET THE VOTE OUT

OUR VOICES MUST BE HEARD

LOUD AND CLEAR.

NO MORE ... THE LINE IS DRAWN

STOP ENCROACHING ON THE CONSTITUTION AND THE RULE OF LAWS!!!


76 posted on 10/04/2011 11:30:03 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: BlackSeal
Or am I just not understanding the whole ‘net neutrality’ thing??

It's a quis custodiet problem, neo-Stalinists vs. Ordoliberals (the good guys) vs. the economic royalists (Adam Smith's back-room market-fixers).

People like me who want the Net to continue to function as it did in 1997 are up against the fact that some economic entities now have got control of big enough chunks of the backbone and infrastructural ISP's that they can now start to change the rules and erect turnstiles all over the place. They're robber-barons, basically. They talk a lot of marketarian language and laissez-faire capitalism, but they're nothing of the sort. They're rent-seekers.

And so now the Stalinists in the White House see their chance to overreach everybody and impose an East German-style iron state control, like China's Golden Shield system.

Comments, people? That about sum it up?

77 posted on 10/10/2011 11:23:33 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: rarestia
Folks, we’re way past that point of no return.

I appreciate how you feel but this is not the right attitude. We are at the point where we must repent of personal sins, submit ourselves to The LORD and seek His divine intervention and direction. It is when we finally get to this point (which we should have been at to start with and we, as a Nation, would not be going through this abject oppression out of the pit of hell) that we are finally able to be worked with and for by Almighty God. We must have the faith of David when The LORD used him to stop the Philistine, Goliath. Anything less, at this point, is not acceptable. Let us fulfill our destinies before Almighty God and become the saints that we have been called to be.

Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Luk 17:6 And the Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you.

Luk 18:7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?

Luk 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?

78 posted on 10/23/2011 4:03:44 PM PDT by Bellflower (Judas Iscariot, first democrat, robber, held the money bag, claimed to care for poor: John 12:4-6)
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To: lentulusgracchus

As Conservatives surely we have the assets to start our own systems. Why haven’t we done this from the start. It is like we hardly exist in the market


79 posted on 10/23/2011 4:06:41 PM PDT by Bellflower (Judas Iscariot, first democrat, robber, held the money bag, claimed to care for poor: John 12:4-6)
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To: BlackSeal

I have had similar questions. However, I have come down on the no regulation side. The most damaging thing about it is that it gives politicians an infrastructure to start rewarding friends and punishing enemies who provide information over the web. Like the income tax and regulations, it will be badly abused. It will be abused to control content and eventually, the regulatory scheme will be extended to censor speech. It’s best to cut it off at the very start.


80 posted on 10/26/2011 2:54:05 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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