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RUSH: Why Aren't They Begging Rubio?
www.rushlimbaugh.com ^ | September 29, 2011 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 09/30/2011 12:35:26 AM PDT by Yosemitest



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: articleii; christie; citizen; constitution; deanchaskins; elkvwilkins; emmerichdevattel; lawofnations; liberal; marcorubio; naturalborncitizen; naturalborncuban; reagan; rush; tinhat; usvwongkimark; wongkimark
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To: SatinDoll
These people, who look like a Obotski Bowling Team to me:

The Gert Jonnys

OH Tee Hee!

81 posted on 10/01/2011 11:28:38 PM PDT by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: patlin
Another case of "Liberals Lie".
You provide no links to back up you theory.
I can find nothing on the internet to back you up.
You waste my time.
I refer you back to post #63, Post #11, post #64, and post #70.
82 posted on 10/02/2011 12:01:57 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: edge919

I refer you to post #70.
83 posted on 10/02/2011 12:05:46 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Yosemitest
I can find nothing on the internet to back you up

Then you didn't read the entire post as I gave you the information on where to find it/ Don't blame me if you can't take the time to actually read the archives.

28th Congress, 2nd Session
page 129

84 posted on 10/02/2011 12:30:25 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin
I'm not wasting any more time on your fictitious theories.
You can't provide a link, because it isn't there.
85 posted on 10/02/2011 12:38:36 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Yosemitest

http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA129&dq=congress+globe+1845&ei=VytzTfSfBoGDgAe3vfjjBw&ct=result&sqi=2&id=YWEUAAAAYAAJ#v=onepage&q=congress%20globe%201845&f=false


86 posted on 10/02/2011 12:46:27 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: edge919

Yosemitest is a hard core Rubio junkie. Good luck as I haven’t had any thus far.


87 posted on 10/02/2011 12:50:24 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin
I can't even read that.
Show me the LAW. Show me the Law under a government site.
I'm not accepting that.
Maybe it's time the Supreme Court cleared up this mess.
88 posted on 10/02/2011 1:13:12 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: patlin
First Palin, then Bachmann, then Cain, then Newt, then Santorum, then Rubio,
but NEVER Romney, Perry, Ron Paul, Jon Huntsman, or Gary Johnson, and I'm not so sure about Chris Christie.
89 posted on 10/02/2011 1:23:28 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Yosemitest
First Palin

Finally, something we can agree on!

90 posted on 10/02/2011 2:09:20 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Yosemitest

so easy a kid could do it

http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=015/llcg015.db&recNum=552


91 posted on 10/02/2011 2:28:25 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: MamaTexan

“Wong Kim petitioned the court as a NATIVE born citizen. The court agreed he was such, but the finding made the distinction between natural-born and native born.”

According the majority opinion in WKA, the language is based on English common law, and the Court quotes British jurist A.V. Dicey: “’Natural-born British subject’ means a British subject who has become a British subject at the moment of his birth.” Thus the distinction between native-born and natural-born is that natural-born also included citizens from birth who were not born in the U.S., such as John S. McCain III.


92 posted on 10/02/2011 3:44:46 AM PDT by BladeBryan
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To: patlin
I read:

That clears it up for me.
93 posted on 10/02/2011 5:28:23 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Yosemitest

HAHAHAHAHA, United States nationality law according to an astronomy website. Now that’s funny! No wonder no one takes you seriously.


94 posted on 10/02/2011 9:34:09 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin

Everyone needs a laugh every now and then.


95 posted on 10/02/2011 9:42:05 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Yosemitest
Permit me to point out the obvious error on that non govt website:

A birth certificate (a.k.a Certificate of Live Birth for children born in certain states) issued by a U.S. state
or territorial government is evidence of citizenship, and is usually accepted as proof of citizenship.”

1st govt laws don't use a.k.a. and 2nd “usually accepted” means doubt and the framers did not put one word in the US Constitution that could be construed with any sort of doubt. Thus the grandfather clause. Even the founding fathers who became president never considered themselves natural born citizens even though they had been born on American soil. When more than one nationality exists at birth, it is the result of man made law, not natural law the reason the word “usually accepted” is used instead of “always accepted”.

96 posted on 10/02/2011 9:54:53 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Yosemitest

let me dig out something in my files..to give you a better understanding..

“The country of the child is that of the father.”

“There is” says McLeod, “something in the idea of native country which is intimately connected with the doctrine of allegiance. It is not, however, the spot of earth, upon which the child is born that connects him with the national society, but the relation of the child’s parents to that society.”


97 posted on 10/02/2011 2:07:38 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: patlin
I just needed a laugh and I figured you did too.
I trust Mark Levin (post #63) because he's one of the best legal minds in the country.
I would also think that you would trust Dean C. Haskins (post #70) since he's the Executive Director of The Birther Summit.
Lets read his reply to Bernard Goldberg's
Now read Dean C. Haskins' reply.
“Natural Born Citizen for Dummies.” is 10 minutes and 48 seconds of time well spent, especially the last 2 minutes.
The two articles he referenced 10 minutes 22 seconds into this video from deanhaskins.wordpress.com are below:
Here are links to searches of Mario Apuzzo and Leo Donofrio.
Enjoy.
98 posted on 10/02/2011 6:43:04 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple: Fight or Die)
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To: Yosemitest
In some of these dialogues, it is proffered that in the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, the Supreme Court ruled that Ark was a citizen “because he was a natural born citizen” at birth.

Sorry, but your 'freelance writer, professional musician/producer, and the former chairman' blew it right there. The USSC ruled NO SUCH THING.

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Law of Nations defines Natural Born Citizens to be “those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.”


§ 212. Citizens and natives.
As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.
Law of Nations

Rubio's parents WERE NOT US CITIZENS when he was born. There are no provisions for people in the process of becoming citizens. You either ARE one, or you aren't.

Rubio was made a citizen after-the-fact of his birth due to the rule of naturalization. When his parents became naturalized, so did he....thus he is a NATURALIZED CITIZEN.

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You can rant, spew and insult me all you like. Your entitled to your own opinion.

You are NOT however, entitled to your own facts, and based on the Law of Nations, the conclusion is this;

Rubio is not eligible to be President!

99 posted on 10/02/2011 7:13:45 PM PDT by MamaTexan (I am ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the laws of Man)
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To: BladeBryan
Thus the distinction between native-born and natural-born is that natural-born also included citizens from birth who were not born in the U.S., such as John S. McCain III.

Exactly!

Why do some people insist on making the simple concept that natural-born citizenship is inherited from you parents

so

bloomin'

HARD!

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LOL!

100 posted on 10/02/2011 7:20:05 PM PDT by MamaTexan (I am ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the laws of Man)
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