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For Listeria victims, sudden turns for the worse
AP via Yahoo ^ | October 1, 2011 | Dan Elliott

Posted on 10/01/2011 10:41:45 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety

DENVER (AP) — Charles Palmer is a hardy 71-year-old former Marine and Vietnam veteran who trains cockatiels to say "Semper Fi" and "Whatcha doin', man?" He also loves fruit — and especially melon for lunch. "He's never one to get sick," said his wife, Tammie. The Colorado Springs man ate a cantaloupe that was purchased in mid-August, his wife said. Within several days, he was overcome by an excruciating headache. The next morning he was extremely weak and gripped by dry heaves, his wife recalled. "I started slapping his face and saying, 'You've got to talk to me,' but he couldn't," she said. She called 911. At the hospital, she said, he was diagnosed with the strain of Listeria blamed for a 19-state outbreak that has killed at least 15 and sickened at least 84.

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To: JRandomFreeper
And we had health inspectors in every single day to do a full-up inspection of the facilities in the military. Once every 3 years in commercial establishments.

If you're in the military, that's comforting. But commercial establishments; very scary.
81 posted on 10/02/2011 6:05:23 AM PDT by Shannon
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To: presently no screen name

Every single one of my babies slept on their tummies. Babies like the snuggly type sleep. I did NOT have the quilts, wraps etc you see in the baby beds parents use. Like you, I see on the back a big time chance of the baby burping up and choking on it. I think SIDs is, like a previous poster said, either a genetic defect or underdeveloped lungs or the effects of so many vaccines at TOO young of an age - OR a combination of all.

BTW all my babies are grown (41, 32 and if our son hadn’t been killed in a vehicle accident at 19, he would have been 38)


82 posted on 10/02/2011 6:15:29 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: JRandomFreeper

You can’t wash lettuce? Overseas we soak foods that we want to eat raw in either PK or chlorox, including lettuce. Are you telling me that the soaking doesn’t kill the problems on our lettuce? Or, is it because a head of lettuce doesn’t allow the chemicals to reach all the leaves? Again, overseas we only have leaf lettuce and so have not tried with iceberg.


83 posted on 10/02/2011 6:17:32 AM PDT by Jemian ( Choose life that you might live!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

*** It was fecal splashing from humans.****

Ah yes! The original fertilizer. I still remember the warnings about buying “fresh” produce in SE Asia back in 1968.


84 posted on 10/02/2011 7:27:35 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare! NEW PHOTOS & PAINTINGS)
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To: ari-freedom
>>plus you know it’s not grown in poop<<

No you don’t. Worms poop, rabbits poop, foxes poop, and birds that fly over poop, bugs poop and caterpillars poop. Sorry to burst your bubble.

85 posted on 10/02/2011 8:47:47 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: gopheraj

The last time I checked, the soil in a pig corral was neither firm or firmish.


86 posted on 10/02/2011 9:36:23 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin

It’s a pig pen not a corral and FYI, a pig is actually cleaner than a chicken which will eat crap. It will NOT poop near it’s food source. Neither will a pig poop in it’s mud bath place unless it is in such a small pen that there is no other alternative. ONLY the mud bath is liquidish and there is no fecal matter there unless the dumb owner makes it so the area where the hog poops runs downhill to it. A hog’s mud bath is only mud and they do not eat the mud. They use the mud bath to cool off and to keep biting flies off of their tender skin. It does not contaminate it unless the butcherer does not wash the hide anymore than the beef is contaminated by the mud/feces that is on the beef hides and I can tell you that a cow that is being shipped to a processor whether it’s a single cow or a herd in a tractor trailer gets a “poopload” of poop all over their bodies. Also a person who has hogs does not feed his/her hogs with vegetables from the store (thrown out stuff) unless those vegetables are fresh - not sour. That’s where the “bugs” (trichinosis) get in the hog meat.


87 posted on 10/02/2011 10:28:59 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: gopheraj
It’s a pig pen not a corral and FYI, a pig is actually cleaner than a chicken which will eat crap. It will NOT poop near it’s food source. Neither will a pig poop in it’s mud bath place unless it is in such a small pen that there is no other alternative. ONLY the mud bath is liquidish and there is no fecal matter there unless the dumb owner makes it so the area where the hog poops runs downhill to it. A hog’s mud bath is only mud and they do not eat the mud. They use the mud bath to cool off and to keep biting flies off of their tender skin. It does not contaminate it unless the butcherer does not wash the hide anymore than the beef is contaminated by the mud/feces that is on the beef hides and I can tell you that a cow that is being shipped to a processor whether it’s a single cow or a herd in a tractor trailer gets a “poopload” of poop all over their bodies. Also a person who has hogs does not feed his/her hogs with vegetables from the store (thrown out stuff) unless those vegetables are fresh - not sour. That’s where the “bugs” (trichinosis) get in the hog meat.

Do you raise pigs? Or chickens? Pigs will eat anything and everything. Dead rotten flesh, they are like a garbage disposal, and they have no sweat glands. Everything they eat becomes part of their body/fat.

88 posted on 10/02/2011 10:34:21 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: gopheraj

Exactly - on the tummies and turn the head for proper development. And there were baby bunties they wore, no blankets. Sorry about your son - a pain that never goes away for the parents and a sorry most parents cannot imagine.

I’m thinking since there has been no progress in 40 years - the vaccines play into it somehow. The little I remember reading about it all way back then - they were totally healthy babies - not premature, nothing that was indicated as anything to watch. Now we hear more about autism than anything else. But then with the media - I’m not expecting any truth. It’s just a vehicle for propaganda and others pass it along.


89 posted on 10/02/2011 12:14:57 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: patlin; JustaDumbBlonde
And for the record, cantaloupe, nor any melon for that matter, are not grown on trees the last I checked.

But justadumbeblonde (and now I) grow them on trellises. :)

90 posted on 10/02/2011 12:20:34 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: JRandomFreeper

Thank you for sharing all your expertise. I’m finding it fascinating. Can you store several gallons of ppm bleach water so that you can use it as needed? Or, is it better to mix it jus before washing?


91 posted on 10/02/2011 12:25:00 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: gopheraj
Also a person who has hogs does not feed his/her hogs with

Hate to burst your bubble, but this has been proven to be false & I can attest to it as we have given away a lot of rejected produce we to local farmers to feed to their pigs that we were told by our shipping customers to dump. And also, what is it hat is shoveled from the soil of those pig pens that is spread on the fields prior to planting? I guarantee it isn't just plain old dirt. I literally live it therefore I know it so you can spread your propaganda elsewhere.

92 posted on 10/02/2011 12:37:49 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
But justadumbeblonde (and now I) grow them on trellises. :)

I too grow my on a home made trellis built using hog fencing. How ironic is that? (:

93 posted on 10/02/2011 12:40:28 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Also, I use old pantyhose to keep my melons off the ground. What is your melon sling of choice?


94 posted on 10/02/2011 12:41:51 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: antceecee

Open it how? I have never suggested once that the gov regulate this, In fact I support the elimination of the FDA and the decriminalization of all drugs. I want more choice including irradiated food which the government prevents.

If you want food grown with shiite that’s your choice my choice is factory fresh. Either way we should be free to chose.


95 posted on 10/02/2011 12:58:53 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: patlin

“CDC = Govt, since when can their statistics be trusted. They are the biggest financial supporters of the pork industry in this country.”

I enjoy tinfoil hats as much as anyone but so long as you pay attention to the definitions and use of the gov statistics they are usually as accurate as anyone’s. Not the spin but the underlying data. Whose stats do you recommend?


96 posted on 10/02/2011 1:02:39 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Admin Moderator

The fate of my thread which I titled “Not Reported: Organic Kills”, per the instructions of the form for posting, is in your hands not mine. Do what is right in your own eyes.

I do not prefer that you pull this thread but I still do not see the justification of your reason to pull it. I supplied what the form for posting clearly asks for which is: “Title of Thread”.

I am acting in respectful manner and asking you to explain why what I did was incorrect.


97 posted on 10/02/2011 1:15:16 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: JRandomFreeper

What is your opinion of the bagged cut salad mixes sold in markets? Do you think they are safe? I always wash the leaves, but others tell me they are already pre-washed and safe to eat as is.


98 posted on 10/02/2011 1:38:43 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The bleach water should be mixed daily.

/johnny

99 posted on 10/02/2011 1:49:44 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: patlin

I’m a novice, but I tried some velcro ties this year. Nextt year, I’ll try the pantyhose. Justadumbblonde on the Weekly Garden Thread is the expert.

Actually, I didn’t do cantaloupe this year — just baby watermelon. Mmmmm — delicious.


100 posted on 10/02/2011 1:53:00 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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