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VIDEO (From "The View"): Herman Cain: Being Gay Is A Choice - "Show Me The Science It's Not"
YouTube, "The View" ^ | 10/4/11 | Herman Cain

Posted on 10/05/2011 9:07:04 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cain; dadt; gays; homosexuality
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To: MNJohnnie
He is running for President of the United States. Not for President of the Conservative website club.

Even a little superficial thought would show how insane this statement is. Is he the president of everything deplorable in the United States? Is he President of all the rapist, robbers, pedophiles, anarchists, sworn enemies of this country?

We compartmentalize and separate from us the worst in society that we deem unworthy of assimilating. It can be strongly argued that the President doesn't represent that, but repudiates it.

These witches represent the worst of the worst that our society is devolving into. They don't deserve a place at the table. The fact that we've given them a place indicates a grave sickness in our national identity.

41 posted on 10/05/2011 10:01:00 AM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: lacrew

Why would the fact that some adult people suffer from same-sex attraction necessarily mean that they were born with it? Your reasoning doesn’t make sense.


42 posted on 10/05/2011 10:03:28 AM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: CanaGuy
If being homosexual was hereditary, it would have been bred out of the species millions of years ago.

There are any number of genetic diseases that kill their victims at a very young age. By your logic those should have disappeared as well. As should conditions like autism, since very few people who suffer from that produce offspring.

43 posted on 10/05/2011 10:05:26 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: oust the louse

Cain is right about this. There are no studies showing a genetic predisposition.

In fact, twins studies show evidence where when seprated at birth, one is gay the other is not.

Gays would love to find the Holy Grail that makes this something they have no control over.

Cain, should follow up and say that being gay is not an easy life style and that for the most part these are troubled people we all know this.

But this will virtually end his campaign because Romney and the others will climb all over him for it, and he will be taken out of text etc.

BUT WHAT HE SAYS IS TRUE..


44 posted on 10/05/2011 10:05:27 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Stand up is hard if you're not funny.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Cain did a great job on The View, and he didn’t let Barbara Wawa get away with trying to redefine 999 as being tax regressive.

He is pretty media savvy. Sherry Shepard and Whoopi actually appeared to like him.


45 posted on 10/05/2011 10:05:34 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

YES WE CAIN!

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46 posted on 10/05/2011 10:05:47 AM PDT by teeman8r (armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: 13Sisters76; Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears; NautiNurse; Nick Danger
So far, every time this good man opens his mouth, I become more determined to vote for him.

Amen... Herman has already won me over! :-)

47 posted on 10/05/2011 10:06:15 AM PDT by nutmeg (Yes We CAIN !! Herman Cain 2012)
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To: NRA1995

Anything crazy?

Not sure what you’re getting at.


48 posted on 10/05/2011 10:07:33 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: lacrew

I agree with you. Arguing that it would have been breed out is also ridiculous. If that were true, there would be no children with cancer or other deadly childhood diseases. Just because you don’t get the gene doesn’t mean you don’t carry it.

Having said that, I very seriously doubt it is 100% genetic. My bet would be for males it is 50% genetic and for females 1%.


49 posted on 10/05/2011 10:08:49 AM PDT by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: lacrew

Herman Cain asked someone to sho him the science to prove people are “born gay.”

There is none. Can you produce any? No.


51 posted on 10/05/2011 10:12:25 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Hey, Perry: Illegal is Not a Race, It is a Crime.)
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To: fwdude

For whatever reason, Cain’s campaign advisors believed this appearance would be helpful publicity. I’m inclined to agree, if not strongly. As long as Cain has the poise, being on a liberal show allows the customary viewers of such a show to see how a conservative reasoner addresses a liberal philosophy. Cain takes a risk, though, because if he bumbles the liberals will make mince meat of him.


52 posted on 10/05/2011 10:12:56 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

IIRC, the best research, which follows identical twins separated at birth and their ultimate sexual behavior when grown, finds about a 50% correlation. If one is gay there is about a 50/50 chance the other will be too. One could find similar correlations regarding whether a person grows up to be an alcoholic. There is nature, nurture, and the mysterious thing sometimes called free will.


53 posted on 10/05/2011 10:17:09 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: nikos1121

That’s not true. There are plenty of studies that show predisposition, including twin studies. What makes the activists upset is that it only accounts for a part of the selection, while an individual’s unique environment, including trauma and associations, has a greater effect.

It is wrong, however, to say there are no studies that show any role for genetic predisposition. You could probably find a genetic predisposition to like haggis, but the environment would have to be right to “trigger” the genes to activate.


54 posted on 10/05/2011 10:19:55 AM PDT by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: cizinec

So you are saying there are “gay” genes? Never heard that proven.

Links, please.


55 posted on 10/05/2011 10:25:35 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Hey, Perry: Illegal is Not a Race, It is a Crime.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
The more I see and hear from Herman the better I like him. I just wish his tax proposal wasn’t 9-9-9.
56 posted on 10/05/2011 10:25:45 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: fella

What I like is how he turned it around on the witches.

They were arguing their FAITH that people are born gay.

He demanded the SCIENCE, which they could not produce.


57 posted on 10/05/2011 10:28:44 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Hey, Perry: Illegal is Not a Race, It is a Crime.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Your statement is not what I’ve seen attributed to Cain.

“Being gay is a choice . . .”

“. . . prove people are born gay.”

Those are two completely different issues. What the studies show(if they are accurate and can be trusted, you’re calling for the science, I’m not) is that genetics appears to play a role for men. It’s not the only factor, but it is *a* factor.

In his statement, it appears that genetics and random, non-self-selected experiences play *no* role in the determination. If one is to believe the studies, that is not the case. In your statement, genetics and all experiences may explain a person’s choice (and a very strong predisposition would make the choice very difficult). In his, only self-selected experiences explain it.


58 posted on 10/05/2011 10:30:04 AM PDT by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: manc

Ok I understand your point better now. Would you then discharge those who have come out under this new policy?


59 posted on 10/05/2011 10:31:33 AM PDT by Grunthor (Will vote, donate to and work for the eventual nominee. And so will you.)
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To: rawhide

When you put body parts where they do not belong,bad things happen.


60 posted on 10/05/2011 10:32:35 AM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Calgon,take me away.)
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