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Nearly Half of U.S. Lives in Household Receiving Government Benefit
Wall Street Journal ^ | 10/05/2011 | Sara Murray

Posted on 10/05/2011 8:21:41 PM PDT by iowamark

Families were more dependent on government programs than ever last year.

Nearly half, 48.5%, of the population lived in a household that received some type of government benefit in the first quarter of 2010, according to Census data. Those numbers have risen since the middle of the recession when 44.4% lived households receiving benefits in the third quarter of 2008.

The share of people relying on government benefits has reached a historic high, in large part from the deep recession and meager recovery, but also because of the expansion of government programs over the years. (See a timeline on the history of government benefits programs here.)

Means-tested programs, designed to help the needy, accounted for the largest share of recipients last year. Some 34.2% of Americans lived in a household that received benefits such as food stamps, subsidized housing, cash welfare or Medicaid (the federal-state health care program for the poor).

Another 14.5% lived in homes where someone was on Medicare (the health care program for the elderly). Nearly 16% lived in households receiving Social Security.

High unemployment and increased reliance on government programs has also shrunk the nation’s share of taxpayers. Some 46.4% of households will pay no federal income tax this year, according to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center. That’s up from 39.9% in 2007, the year the recession began.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hopeandchange; obama; obamanomics

1 posted on 10/05/2011 8:21:45 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

Looks like a recipe for electoral trouble.


2 posted on 10/05/2011 8:23:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: iowamark

and since the government is going broke that means all of us are screwed.


3 posted on 10/05/2011 8:24:30 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: iowamark

that there is a picture of fabian socialism.


4 posted on 10/05/2011 8:26:16 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: iowamark

To Obama, that’s mission almost accomplished.


5 posted on 10/05/2011 8:26:33 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: the invisib1e hand

and going parabolic at the end there, no less.


6 posted on 10/05/2011 8:27:08 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: iowamark
70% of the food stamp recepients in the state of Alabama had zero earned income last year.
7 posted on 10/05/2011 8:28:27 PM PDT by blam
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To: iowamark

When you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on Paul’s vote.


8 posted on 10/05/2011 8:29:08 PM PDT by GOPJ (Bibi would go toe to toe with the devil if it was the only way to save his beloved Israel.)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Hey. I don’t see it going down after the 2000great election. Just saying...


9 posted on 10/05/2011 8:29:08 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: iowamark

I get an Army retirement check, for which I served 29 years. I get a SS check for which I worked for 50 years. No entitlement there...I earned those!


10 posted on 10/05/2011 8:29:21 PM PDT by LiteKeeper ("Who is John Galt?")
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To: iowamark

Must be the same percentage that does not pay taxes either..... definitely part of that hope and change BS, just ask the AnointedIdiot. =.=


11 posted on 10/05/2011 8:30:21 PM PDT by cranked
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To: iowamark
At what point do American Citizens start referring to each other as “Comrade”.

Looks like that day is getting closer to me. Obama winning in 2012 will be the last nail in the Coffin.

12 posted on 10/05/2011 8:30:36 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Sarah Palin was President, you would have a job by now.)
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To: LiteKeeper

Agreed!


13 posted on 10/05/2011 8:32:38 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Compromise on the Holocaust would have killed three million Jews.)
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To: iowamark

Well, according to Elizabeth Warren, if you drive your car on a public road, or if you attended a public school, or waited at a crosswalk until a government-owned electric sign told you to WALK, you have received a government benefit, and now owe everything you accomplish in life to the government. Of course, the government, being the compassionate deity it is, will graciously let you keep a percentage of the money you earn by virtue of your accomplishments. It’s a good system.


14 posted on 10/05/2011 8:34:45 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: LiteKeeper

And you also paid for medicare, at gunpoint! (It was in your “Social Security”).


15 posted on 10/05/2011 8:35:00 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Compromise on the Holocaust would have killed three million Jews.)
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To: LiteKeeper

That’s the problem with this article. Your earned payments are shown as “government benefits,” same as food stamps or AFDC or student loans or unemployment.

What’s the graph look like if you taken out VA payments? Social Security? Medicare? It’s a different picture.

All this chart does is show that there are a lot of Americans who depend on money that comes from the government. It doesn’t say anything about why they are receiving it.


16 posted on 10/05/2011 8:35:43 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: iowamark

WOW! This is so UN-American! Whatever happened to JFK saying “ask not what the country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country” ?

The same lazy bunch who did not work hard to learn a difficult skill, are the ones blaming others for their failure and marching on Wall Street.


17 posted on 10/05/2011 8:37:36 PM PDT by federal__reserve
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To: Steely Tom

Where does Ms. Warren believe the money to pay for those benefits came from, I wonder. Welfare recipients?


18 posted on 10/05/2011 8:38:33 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Kickass Conservative

“Obama winning in 2012 will be the last nail in the Coffin.”

I agree, Comrade. So let’s work really, REALLY hard at our local levels to make sure that doesn’t happen!

I’m all in. Are you? :)


19 posted on 10/05/2011 8:38:58 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: LiteKeeper

If you receive a multiple of what you paid into social security in your life, it is an entitlement.


20 posted on 10/05/2011 8:39:05 PM PDT by spyone (ridiculum)
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To: Steely Tom

Ask Elizabeth Warren, why people who have contributed nothing by paying taxes are using the same roads?


21 posted on 10/05/2011 8:39:43 PM PDT by federal__reserve
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To: worst-case scenario

It is not the “Why” that is important on Plantation Amerika, it is the “What.”

There are NO balance sheets for ANY business that has a column for “Why.”

The largest business in the world is the US Federal Government.

It has one column for PROFIT, with the last entry being made by President Van Buren, and another column for DEBT.

The “What” is what was spent, the “Why” is Socialism. Deal with it.


22 posted on 10/05/2011 8:45:30 PM PDT by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: LiteKeeper
Thank you for your service. Read you bio and we have much in common, other than the Chaplin's duties. I too was FA 02 in RVN. And at one point in my Army service I attended the West Point Prep at Ft. Belvoir, VA. Didn't get to WP but went the OCS route at Ft. Sill.

I too don't like it when folks who have earned their benefits by work and service get somehow lumped into those that simply live off the system.

23 posted on 10/05/2011 8:50:01 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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To: LiteKeeper

The article makes no mention of military or other government pensions. I don’t know if she counts those. It is interesting that many see old age programs Medicare and SSA as a good but see means tested programs as negative.

Of course, the result is that the popular old age programs Medicare and SSA get expanded and, combined with rising life expectancy and low birth rates, they are going bankrupt.


24 posted on 10/05/2011 8:52:39 PM PDT by iowamark (Rick Perry says I'm heartless.)
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To: iowamark
Some 46.4% of households will pay no federal income tax this year

True fairness won't be achieved until 100% of households pay no federal income tax. Mrs. POF and I are waiting for the day when we can be included in that category.

25 posted on 10/05/2011 8:53:27 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: iowamark

Food Stamp Nation. God help us. This is why I call “BS” every time some conservative commentator says that America is basically a “center right” or “conservative nation. Wrong. Its a nation going soft. Way too many adults are immature children looking for a handout.


26 posted on 10/05/2011 8:53:38 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: LiteKeeper
well we deserve SOMETHING SOMEDAY after the both of us working combined almost 80yrs!...and some of it in the military, which doesn't pay a thing until the hubby gets to age 60....

but that's just the entitlement side talking....

27 posted on 10/05/2011 8:54:27 PM PDT by cherry
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To: LiteKeeper

If you receive a multiple of what you paid into social security in your life, it is an entitlement.


28 posted on 10/05/2011 8:59:10 PM PDT by spyone (ridiculum)
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To: spyone

You can’t call Social Security (full ret) an entitlement because entitlements aren’t taxable.

I am not talking about some 25 yo drawing from the Soc Sec System (I would say fund but we all know there is no fund - well, everyone but algore - he is still looking for that lock box).
You know something is wrong with a system when, after paying into it for say 30 years and you offer to ‘opt out’, you keep what I put in, no questions asked, and they tell you that you can’t.


29 posted on 10/05/2011 9:14:10 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98) If govt involved, the more outlandish a scheme appears, the truer it probably is.)
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To: iowamark

The fall of Rome.


30 posted on 10/05/2011 9:17:26 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I'm in as much as I can be, but I live in California.

If they had a Video of Obama drowning puppies while he was shooting up Heroin, he would still win by 15 points here.

With Palin bowing out, this Election cycle has gone from picking someone who resonates everything great about America to picking anybody but Obama.

I have hopes for Cain, but his age, history of Cancer and Political inexperience will be the DNC / Media talking points drumbeat if he ends up being the nominee.

31 posted on 10/05/2011 9:17:43 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Sarah Palin was President, you would have a job by now.)
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To: iowamark
I wonder why there is a gap in graph points during the late 80’s? Could it be there was a downward trend someone does not want us to see?
32 posted on 10/05/2011 9:21:07 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: the invisib1e hand
and going parabolic at the end there, no less.

I believe the correct term is "Hockey Stick"

How ironic, to find a real hockey stick graph that tracks the results of those who made up a hockey stick graph to further thier cause.

33 posted on 10/05/2011 9:21:24 PM PDT by BRK
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To: iowamark

Social Security is not a benefit. It is a person’s own money taken by the government over a lifetime and paid back only if he lives to 65-67. If he dies before that, it’s all gone; not a cent goes to his estate. A spouse may get a benefit but that spouse also contributed over their working lifetime.

On average you have to live to 76 to get back the raw cash you paid in over a lifetime. With compound interest over a lifetime the amount paid in would have grown to a much larger sum in an outside investment, like a savings account. So you really have to live into your eighties to get back the money plus interest that you would have had if you had your own personal savings account.

And your spouse would get any of the leftover if you died before your eighties, not the government.


34 posted on 10/05/2011 9:37:01 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: Kickass Conservative

The takers exceed the producers, then Government owns everyone.


35 posted on 10/05/2011 9:57:01 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: Graewoulf

No matter how you argue it. government is not a business. For one thing, a business hires, fires; it doesn’t have the old, sick, disabled, and children on its payroll, with no way to get rid of the drag on the profits. hell, the purpose of government *isn’t* to make a profit, any more than the purpose of a religions’ is (although with some, it’s hard to tell.

Government and business can swap ideas and systems. But they are *not* the same thing.


36 posted on 10/05/2011 10:03:53 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: Graewoulf

No matter how you argue it. government is not a business. For one thing, a business hires, fires; it doesn’t have the old, sick, disabled, and children on its payroll, with no way to get rid of the drag on the profits. hell, the purpose of government *isn’t* to make a profit, any more than the purpose of a religions’ is (although with some, it’s hard to tell.

Government and business can swap ideas and systems. But they are *not* the same thing.


37 posted on 10/05/2011 10:04:03 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
Sputnik - zero jobs1
Mr. Mumbo-jumbo -- Let Them Eat Food Stamps.
38 posted on 10/05/2011 10:15:37 PM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: LiteKeeper

...”I get an Army retirement check, for which I served 29 years. I get a SS check for which I worked for 50 years. No entitlement there...I earned those!”...

And while way too many people are on the welfare roles, people like you should not be counted as being on the government dole because you did earn your checks.


39 posted on 10/06/2011 2:19:40 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: worst-case scenario

Then we must agree to disagree.

The ONLY purpose of Government is to do no harm.

Each dollar of Debt does harm to its taxpayers.

The result of unchecked, (pun intended), spending is that the US Federal Government is now Public Enemy Number One to the US taxpayer.

The US Federal Government is trying to Nationalize the Medical and Insurance businesses which account for 1/6 th of the businesses of the USA, on a dollar basis.

The US Federal Government is now without checks and balances, in a financial death spiral, and is the largest and most powerful business that the world has ever known.

The US Federal Government for the last 80 years has been based on the premise: FROM EACH ACCORDING TO HIS ABILITY, TO EACH ACCORDING TO HIS NEED. The Debtocrats call it “re-distribution of wealth.”

Since MY needs will always be greater than YOUR needs, the US Federal Government will continue to do maximum allowable harm to its taxpayers, and gobble up all businesses to feed its insatiable appetite.

As I said before, we must agree to disagree, because the gradient of the last 80 years has become asymptotic towards absolute control of all US businesses.


40 posted on 10/06/2011 6:27:32 AM PDT by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: LiteKeeper

Same here, I earned both my military retirement and VA disability. Does these figures include us?


41 posted on 10/06/2011 7:17:13 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: iowamark

I guess I am in that bunch - since I am now receiving SS checks. Of course, I paid FICA taxes for about 48 years or so-from age 18 to age 67.

All those years of work only made me a stronger conservative. I do not think 50% is the true marker for tipping the scales. It’s closer to 55-60%, since you have to have over 55% of the folks literally without any other income before they would all be automatically voting Democratic. Yikes, that’s getting awefully close now, isn’t it?


42 posted on 10/06/2011 9:40:26 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: ops33

In the minds of far too many, the answer is yes.


43 posted on 10/06/2011 12:42:57 PM PDT by LiteKeeper ("Who is John Galt?")
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To: goseminoles

I was saying that Obama prefers more people to be dependent on government than before. To Obie, until every American relies on government, his job is incomplete.


44 posted on 10/06/2011 8:34:17 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Hunton Peck
LoL, Don't you remember-- the economy is driven by the unemployed and their unemployment checks!! Ask economic expert Nancy Pelosi!! Losing your job is gooood for the economy!! Pelosi: Unemployment Benefits Biggest Stimulus for Economy
45 posted on 10/07/2011 8:13:28 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (The Road to Ruin is Always Kept in Good Repair)
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To: oldbill
Excellent post and would that more understood this simple concept which you explained so well and clearly. Too many today depend ONLY on SS OR a pension fund that is vastly underfunded - I should know, my own teacher's retirement fund is set to run out of money by 2017 at the latest. I live in California so there IS no state money to cover the shortfall. But then, I have understood this for years and made sure I was diversified into other things. SO MANY teachers have NOTHING or have foolishly cashed in their 403b's (to buy new cars, to take vacations and other such stupid things). I heard a lecture once on the Internet directed at a black group about how SS hurts them specifically because the average life span of blacks is 65 and, as you stated, SS does NOT become part of your estate as does a 401 or 403 that does and can be passed down to your heirs. Or, as my dear old dad used to say: The government Don't pay interest! SS is a PONZI scheme, there IS no lockbox and those who depend on it solely will be in for a world of hurt. Privatizing even a tiny percentage of it was the correct call, before it was shot down by the idiot media and duplicitous pols trying to scare old people for votes.
46 posted on 10/07/2011 8:55:24 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (The Road to Ruin is Always Kept in Good Repair)
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