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Rick Perry: Modern day conquistador
Indiana Daily Student ^ | October 7, 2011 | Jon Todd is the president of Students for Barack Obama on campus

Posted on 10/07/2011 7:01:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Last week Republican presidential hopeful Rick Perry announced to an audience in New Hampshire that he would be willing to use American troops to battle Mexican drug cartels. In Mexico. Yes, really.

I’m sure the comment has already faded from public memory. Or if it hasn’t, it will soon, given the length of our collective attention span. But this kind of foreign policy suggestion should concern any sane individual. Let’s think about some of the details of such a plan.

Some of its prominent features would include: a tropical climate, guerilla warfare, a civilian population that is, at best, indifferent to the U.S. military. And at worst, actively hostile to it, and best of all, loosely defined objectives for victory that could never really be achieved because they are so nebulous.

Maybe I’m wrong, but that sounds vaguely similar to another situation we found ourselves in. It starts with a V ... oh yeah, Vietnam. One of the jewels of American history.

It seems like a lovely idea to send American men and women to fight in unfamiliar territory against a well-funded and well-armed guerilla army again. After all, it worked so splendidly before.

I’ve also heard drug lords are the kind to give up easy, so it shouldn’t take long. As much as I enjoy needless interventionism in foreign policy, I do have another question for Governor Perry: How exactly would we pay for such a delightful excursion? I can tell you, for certain, the answer isn’t tax cuts.

As we consider cutting funding for education, health care for the poor and the elderly, and social security to fix the deficit we already have, I can definitely see how going into Mexico to kill marijuana growers seems like an awesome idea. What’s more glamorous? Shootouts in the Mexican jungle or grandma having money to pay for her medication?

Maybe we could get Mexico to pay for it. They’ve got a thriving economy and no major political issues, right?

The cowboy attitude is fun in movies. We all enjoy a good straight-talker with a six-shooter on his hip, always ready to pull the trigger if the situation calls for it. I have to say, though, I really don’t think that attitude makes for solid leadership in the real world with real consequences.

If this is a sign of what we can expect from President Rick Perry, I want absolutely no part of it. I’ll be honest with you; I wasn’t going to vote Republican in this presidential election anyway.

But if the best the Republicans can do is a hot-headed, shoot-first- and-ask questions-later kind of candidate, they are in deep, deep trouble.

Maybe I’m wrong about the Republican chances with Perry as a candidate, but if we choose to elect him, we are all in deep trouble.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: education; history; perry2012; student
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To: org.whodat
Perry screaming as he rides those poll numbers to the bottom.

LOL! At least Perry's IN the race. Don't worry though...he'll be on top soon enough.

41 posted on 10/07/2011 9:23:50 AM PDT by pgkdan (Perry 2012!)
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To: Howie66
Not if I have anything to say about it. Perry is not who or what we need.

The thought of which, I'm sure, keeps Perry up worrying late into the night. LOL.

42 posted on 10/07/2011 9:26:41 AM PDT by pgkdan (Perry 2012!)
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To: pgkdan
Yes, he is hoping to land on the last person down, and algore is down there somewhere.
43 posted on 10/07/2011 9:28:30 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: shield

One more time.

Perry is on the ropes and you do not help his effort lying about Reagan’s record and comparing him to Romney. Do you understand that?


44 posted on 10/07/2011 9:29:26 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: pgkdan

That doesn’t matter to me.

lol


45 posted on 10/07/2011 9:31:16 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: org.whodat

Brilliant...that makes a lot of sense.


46 posted on 10/07/2011 9:36:14 AM PDT by pgkdan (Perry 2012!)
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To: Reagan Man

Perry is not on the ropes. But I understand your point and it is well taken. [My taxes did go up under Reagan. The changes made in the tax code hurt me badly as a self employed person.]


47 posted on 10/07/2011 9:46:11 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Reagan Man

17.1 million dollars raised in 49 days even after the 3 debate his daily fund raising increased. That and that alone says PERRY IS NOT ON THE ROPES.


48 posted on 10/07/2011 9:50:45 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: shield
Candidate contributions is one component to a successful campaign effort. I told you the other day, $17.1 million was great news for Perry and for all of us who see him as the best conservative candidate running with the best chance to beat Obama.

Perry is on the ropes, however. That is a boxing term for a fighter who is getting hit by some shots and blocking some shots coming at him from all directions, but he's hanging on with guts and determination. If Perry can show the last debate was a fluke and he can perform well on his feet at the Oct 11th Dartmouth forum, he will recover some of his lost support and be seen once again as someone who can be a viable alternative to Romney. Perry still offers by far, the best executive governing experience out of the entire field of candidates.

I'd like to put your disappointing remarks calling Reagan a rino and comparing Reagan to Romney aside. But the damage has been done. I see no upside to such drivel. In reality, it doesn't help Perry, it hurts him.

49 posted on 10/07/2011 10:12:11 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man
Romney is a liar and the biggest flip flopper ever. I don't even understand why the guy has an R after his name.

Being a woman...I didn't understand the meaning of 'on the ropes' with your explanation, I have to agree with you.

Sorry. I am afraid today here at FR Reagan would be considered exactly how Perry is being considered. It is a sad fact when a person does not line up with you perfectly they are called that. NO one seems to measure up to that perfection.

50 posted on 10/07/2011 10:39:35 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Reagan Man

Oh, I was part of the Reagan Revolution. My son in law pointed that out to me a few months ago. Being raised in Texas parents were always dems. So of course I was but I was the first one in my family to break out and it was totally because of Ronald Reagan.


51 posted on 10/07/2011 10:42:44 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: shield
I've been posting for weeks that there is no ideal candidate for conservatives. Yesterday, today or tomorrow. That includes Perry, Palin, Cain, Bachmann and Reagan. I suggest folks just stay away from dragging Reagan into these debates. It usually amounts to nothing more then people taking pot shots at the Reagan record. Then on closer scrutiny with ALL the facts revealed, things look much different. There is always the background story in politics that people overlook or ignore.

>>>>>I am afraid today here at FR Reagan would be considered exactly how Perry is being considered.

Not so sure about that word "exactly". It may be true in some cases and to a certain degree, but its still no reason to pile on Reagan. Its no reason to call him a rino or to compare Reagan to Romney. You need to just say, sorry, I was wrong and move on. End of story.

52 posted on 10/07/2011 11:02:08 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: vbmoneyspender
The Conquistadors were the good guys.

Are you nuts? They invaded sovereign nations, they spread their beliefs and their religion at the point of a sword. If they had had the numbers and military power to take on the rest of Europe, they would have wiped out the English and French colonies in North America. I say this as somebody of Spanish descent whose family has been in the Americas for five centuries or so. They were interested in the three G's - Gold, God, and Glory, and not necessarily in that order, and anybody who interfered with that was killed or conquered.
53 posted on 10/07/2011 2:35:30 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A while back, we stopped and had lunch in Hondo on the way to Utopia, Texas (I believe it was the Dairy Queen) and it literally was a museum of photographs of early Texas Rangers in the area.

If it had pictures of a horse thief before and after being hung, then it's the Dairy Queen in Hondo.
54 posted on 10/07/2011 2:37:12 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: vbmoneyspender
The Conquistadors destroyed empires that engaged in child sacrifice. It was a great day for South America when they made land

The Spanish Inquisition didn't have a problem torturing children, or women, or the elderly, or anybody else. Those empires they destroyed were destroyed simply because they were in the way of the Spanish.

They would have destroyed the Pilgrims in a heartbeat if they could have dealt with the military fallout from the other European powers. As it was, they still wiped out a few French colonies, and they were even looking for some of the English colonies that were further south. At one point they were looking for Roanoke.
55 posted on 10/07/2011 2:42:57 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

There were photos of rangers and law men on the walls all around the room and there were photos of a HUGE snake.


56 posted on 10/07/2011 2:49:26 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: af_vet_rr
Can you site any evidence for the Conquistadors torturing children, women and the elderly - let alone sacrificing them.

It is truly amazing how political correctness infects even Free Republic.

57 posted on 10/07/2011 3:48:10 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: af_vet_rr

Are you familiar at all with the history of the Conquistadors? For example, do you know how many conquistadors Cortes had with him when he took control of Tenochtitlan?


58 posted on 10/07/2011 3:54:15 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: vbmoneyspender
Can you site any evidence for the Conquistadors torturing children, women and the elderly - let alone sacrificing them.

It is truly amazing how political correctness infects even Free Republic.


I never denied the natives didn't have some brutal practices, I was pointing out that the Spanish were no saints (not even close). Let's face it though, if the Americas didn't have riches that Spain had wanted, you can bet their presence there would not have been as big and as brutal as it was. And if Spain thought they could have easily handled the military fallout, they would have wiped out all of the English and French colonies and tried to hold on to both continents for themselves.
59 posted on 10/07/2011 4:06:07 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
I never denied the natives didn't have some brutal practices . . .

For God's sake, the Indians were sacrificing infants and children on a routine basis. Fernando de Alva Cortés Ixtlilxochitl who lived the in the late 16th century and was the great-great-grandson of an Aztec emperor, estimated that up to 20% of the children from captive populations were sacrificed by the Aztecs.

Anyone who stopped that is a good guy in my book.

60 posted on 10/07/2011 4:23:25 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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