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Do Cain's opponents believe that he's a legit threat?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 10/11/11 | Jay Bookman

Posted on 10/11/2011 10:15:03 AM PDT by DRey

One of the things to watch for in tonight’s GOP debate is how Herman Cain is treated by his fellow candidates. Is he perceived as a threat? Do they take his chances seriously?

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Based on history, that kind of performance ought to make Cain a target in the debate, because that’s what happens to top-tier candidates. When Rick Perry entered the race and seemed a real threat, Romney wasted no time attacking him, with Michele Bachmann gleefully joining in. Perry hasn’t been the same since.

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So if Romney, Perry and Bachmann do perceive Cain as a legitimate threat to win the nomination, they’ll begin to question him and his policies directly. Call it a sign of respect. Maybe they’ll ask him why, in 2008, he strongly backed the TARP bailout and treated opponents with such condescension, attacking them as “free market purists (who) want you to believe that this is the end of capitalism as we know it.” Maybe they’ll press him on why he dismissed an audit of the Federal Reserve, saying those who thought an audit necessary just didn’t know enough about the Fed. (They also ought to challenge him on the fact that his “9-9-9 plan would significantly raise taxes on the poor and middle class, but this being a Republican debate, that probably won’t happen.)

On the other hand, if they continue to treat Cain with kid gloves, preferring to direct their fire elsewhere, that will say a lot as well.

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To: RockinRight

LOL!

Ok - using Chris Christie as proxy moxie.


21 posted on 10/11/2011 10:28:40 AM PDT by sodpoodle (God is ignoring me - because He is watching you)
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To: DRey
"Your graph only proves my point."

Actually the graph says that a vote for Perry is a vote for Romney. Perry, with his rapidly declining support, should give any that is remaining to Cain. That would take Romney out and ensure Cain a victory.
22 posted on 10/11/2011 10:29:23 AM PDT by AdamBomb
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To: MestaMachine
"IF perry attacks Cain, perry is toast."

he already is toast, texas toast.
23 posted on 10/11/2011 10:31:08 AM PDT by AdamBomb
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To: MestaMachine

Yeah, yeah. “Perry is toast.” “Perry is toast.” Keep saying that. Maybe one day it will come true.


24 posted on 10/11/2011 10:31:59 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: AdamBomb

I take it you are not an analyst.


25 posted on 10/11/2011 10:32:58 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: DRey
Perry knows a vote for Cain is a vote for Romney.

Actually, a vote for Perry – who is dead candidate walking – is a vote for Romney.

26 posted on 10/11/2011 10:42:23 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: DRey
Yeah, yeah. “Perry is toast.” “Perry is toast.” Keep saying that. Maybe one day it will come true.

It already came true. And it is Perry who toastified himself.

27 posted on 10/11/2011 10:45:02 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: M. Thatcher

You have not been following the threads, have you? Romney said last night people should vote for him or Cain, either one. Romney and Cain are in this together.


28 posted on 10/11/2011 10:45:33 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: DRey

No, they don’t think Cain is a threat.

IMHO, both Perry and Romney believe they can beat Cain head-to-head in a primary, so you’ll see them trying to knock each other out. That would account for Romney’s attacks on Perry and vote for me or Cain speech (an attempt to draw voters off Perry and onto Cain—for now), and Perry’s new attack ad that goes after Romney on RomneyCare.

Conventional wisdom would say they’re both right. Both Perry and Romney should be able to overwhelm Cain with money in any head-to-head primary race.


29 posted on 10/11/2011 10:45:58 AM PDT by Brookhaven (999 Tax Calculator: http://goo.gl/AHsjH)
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To: Grunthor

There are just no voters left who don’t see the tag team of Romney and Cain, and there new found mutual admiration society, formed publicaly to issue the final blow to kill off the only threat left to Romney, Rick Perry. Wake up and smell the coffee. What you seem to think you see is chess. Cain is not ever going to be president, nor win the nomination, but is smart enough to recognize he has a chance to be VP to Romney. Bank that. Do you not find it even slightly curious that Cain would buddy up with a socialist to carpet bomb the only guy with the goods? Come on, rookie. Watch Romney drop Cain like a branding iron after the nomination. Yes, Rick has to take it to Romney and the whole line up tonight and through out the month, because it’s all going down this month.


30 posted on 10/11/2011 10:47:13 AM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: DRey
The only person that might attack Cain will be Perry. Perry knows a vote for Cain is a vote for Romney

LOL. A vote for Cain is a vote Perry will not get, and Perry desperately needs votes as his numbers nosedive in poll after poll. The more people see of Perry, the less support he has. The more people see of Cain, the more support he has. Perry has no way of controlling this.

31 posted on 10/11/2011 10:49:34 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: SoJoCo

Santorum has already started his attack on Cain, but I’m not sure it will be effective. “I have a 0-0-0 plan” comes across as cheap satire. I’m not sure it was that effective for him.


32 posted on 10/11/2011 10:50:30 AM PDT by Brookhaven (999 Tax Calculator: http://goo.gl/AHsjH)
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To: DRey
Rush had it right this morning, which is that Romney wants Cain for the final two fighting for nomination, and Romney thinks he can overwhelm Cain with the money (and followed by organization). That perfectly explains why Romney is not attacking Cain at all.
33 posted on 10/11/2011 10:51:03 AM PDT by federal__reserve (November 2012 will decide whether we fall into an abyss or walk up the shiny city on the hill.)
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To: RitaOK

“There are just no voters left who don’t see the tag team of Romney and Cain”

Really? You’ve talked to them all? Perhaps you have a poll to back up your wild assertion?

No? Color me shocked./s


34 posted on 10/11/2011 10:52:45 AM PDT by Grunthor (Heartless Bigot for Cain.)
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To: DRey

http://twitter.com/#!/TheHermanCain
THEHermanCain Herman Cain
Team HC ~ We’ll be hosting a live chat for tonight’s debate at livestream.com/thehermancain Join us! #econdebate

http://www.livestream.com/thehermancain


35 posted on 10/11/2011 10:53:00 AM PDT by Fred (But we will never survive unless we get a little crazy)
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To: federal__reserve

Yes, it sure does. Romney can’t beat Perry, but he can beat Cain.


36 posted on 10/11/2011 10:53:46 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: AdamBomb
My prediction is that Newt and Bachman will ultimately throw their support behind Cain.

Santorum as well. Yes, only representing about 3-4%, but enough to make a difference.

37 posted on 10/11/2011 10:55:17 AM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: DRey
Romney can’t beat Perry, but he can beat Cain.

Romney has a chunk of moderate Republican support and he will probably get some liberal/moderate independent vote in a general election. Perry has almost no Republican support and would get no liberal/moderate independent vote in a general election.

Anyone voting for Perry really wants four more years of Obama.

38 posted on 10/11/2011 10:59:14 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Prokopton

The candidates are watching the clock. When the clock strikes the hour of stride, Perry will elect to be Perry and will come after Romney, Cain and anybody else standing with these two socialists. He has to. Maybe that will be tonight. They are all a mirage. You don’t tag team with Romney, as Cain is publically doing, who launched the pattern for socialism used by Obama for Obamacare because you give a damn about the country. You pal around with Romney because there is something in it for you, and you tag team with Romney the socialist against Perry because you know how things are going to go down. There are what five debates this month? We will know your nominee by September, unless in the course of 13 months he implodes at the wrong time.


39 posted on 10/11/2011 11:00:59 AM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: ScottinVA

It’s just a gut feeling, but I think Santorum will endorse one of the two establishment candidates (Perry or Romney), depending on who survives.

Santorum has never struck me as a guy that thinks too far outside the box. He’ll go with conventional wisdom.


40 posted on 10/11/2011 11:02:38 AM PDT by Brookhaven (999 Tax Calculator: http://goo.gl/AHsjH)
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