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GOP Empire's Plan to Crush Tea Party Rebels
atlantic wire ^ | 10-12-11 | Elspeth Reeve

Posted on 10/13/2011 9:26:50 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB

Step 1: The first rule of the establishment is: Do not admit you are part of the establishment! Step 2: Disarm them with praise Step 3: Moderate whoever they pick as the 2012 nominee. Step 4: Teach them about compromise. Step 5: Never forget reality

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
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(Vin Weber is an Arne Carlson type RINO from MN.)
1 posted on 10/13/2011 9:26:58 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB
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To: WOBBLY BOB

They left out the part about “fragment their vote with fake populist Establishments candidates”.


2 posted on 10/13/2011 9:32:57 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
I' guess they did not leave that out

Kristol told me just after Perry entered the race, a development that essentially ended [the more radical Michele] Bachmann’s brief ascent. Establishment Republicans may prefer Romney to Perry, but their assumption is that either man can be counted on to steer the party back toward the broad center next fall, effectively disarming the Tea Party mutiny.

3 posted on 10/13/2011 9:34:46 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I think these are actually Romney’s debate notes, no?


4 posted on 10/13/2011 9:35:29 AM PDT by Dansong
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To: WOBBLY BOB

This is exactly why having Freepers blabbering about how they will vote for a RINO as a last resort is damaging our chances of ever having a decent candidate.


5 posted on 10/13/2011 9:36:03 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Last but most important step: complete and utter surrender of your positions, values and philosophy in the name of compromise is never surrender.


6 posted on 10/13/2011 9:36:58 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

RINO compromise=be reasonable and do it my way.


7 posted on 10/13/2011 9:37:03 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

The politicrats get embedded in state and local gubamints and ya can never get rid of them. Well, Huns and Barbarians could.. RINOs are on thin ice and they know it.. :-)


8 posted on 10/13/2011 9:39:12 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: justsaynomore; fieldmarshaldj; perfect_rovian_storm; Kartographer; USS Alaska; Prokopton; ...
From this article. Confirmation that Perry is the GOP Establishment's mole designed to defang the Tea Party Kristol told me just after Perry entered the race, a development that essentially ended [the more radical Michele] Bachmann’s brief ascent. Establishment Republicans may prefer Romney to Perry, but their assumption is that either man can be counted on to steer the party back toward the broad center next fall, effectively disarming the Tea Party mutiny.
9 posted on 10/13/2011 9:40:51 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Rush’s entire opening monologue was based on this very thing, today.


10 posted on 10/13/2011 9:41:42 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: WOBBLY BOB
(Vin Weber is an Arne Carlson type RINO from MN.)

And a crooked one.

"Weber retired from congress in 1992, two years before the "Republican revolution", after being caught up in the House banking scandal which revealed the bank had repeatedly paid overdrafts for 125 checks on his account"

11 posted on 10/13/2011 9:44:40 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Grunthor

You will want to read this. See what the GOP Establishment says about Perry. Basically he is one of them and they know it.


12 posted on 10/13/2011 9:44:58 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

The problem is we lost our General Grant and the Tea party went with her.


13 posted on 10/13/2011 9:46:01 AM PDT by Brimack34
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To: WOBBLY BOB

And, Step 6, lose the election to the Democrats. Being in the minority works just as well for the GOP and its elected centrists as both can rake in contributions from corporations and fat cats needing juice in D.C.

If conservatives want to use the GOP as a path to power, we must get in the party and take over the wheel at all levels, county, state and national. Kick out the RINOS. Plus, when there is a good conservative candidate running as a Republican, back him or her with money, so the candidate has a chance of winning.


14 posted on 10/13/2011 9:47:59 AM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: Brimack34
The problem is we lost our General Grant and the Tea party went with her.

Nonsense. General Grant didn't win victories by not engaging in the battles. The Tea Party is not just doing well, it will elect one of them as the next President.

15 posted on 10/13/2011 9:49:39 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: MNJohnnie

This is ecactly why they FEAR Herman Cain!

Herman Cain who truly was until recently a virtual unknown had faith enough in himself to decide to run for President of the United States on his own. There was no Media hype/pressure/build-up about a possible run, there was no urging by members of the Party, no words spoken into his ear by party players, elites, beltway boys or pundits, not even a word of encouragement from the Republican Party of his home state only faith in himself. Now after months of being treated as being a inconsequential candidate the curious sideshow of a conservative black Republican, he is now in the top tier along with people of great party pull, of men with experienced political machines and the dollars to power them. He did that on his own with no help from anyone accept by his own. Now think what a man with faith in himself like that could accomplish if given the chance.

Now many are saying Cain hasn’t a chance with his little formal organization and even less money.

Well let me remind all of you of what a recent movement did with no formal organization and even less money, The Tea Party.

The Tea Party manage with both those weakness to go on and seriously change the political landscape and in doing so caused the Leftist members of govenment, ellitist of both political parties and media types to quake in fear of them and their rath and all done with only a minimum of formal organization and on a ‘shoe string’ budget.

That’s what sucessful AMERICANS do, what they have always done! It’s what makes us WINNERS! They start out with what they have and they MAKE IT WORK! They make it work because what they don’t have in manpower or money they make-up with brains, sweat, blood and last but most important faith.


16 posted on 10/13/2011 9:51:00 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: MNJohnnie

Which is why Sarah bailed out at exactly the wrong time. Just when she was needed most, she bailed out on us. I fear the tea party is now no longer reliant, the establishment wins again and the people lose again. Very sad, with Sarah we could have at least driven the dialog. Now there is very little that can be done to change the direction the nation is going. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.


17 posted on 10/13/2011 9:51:22 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: MNJohnnie

Not surprised in the least. La Raza Rick was as big a fraud as I knew he was.


18 posted on 10/13/2011 9:52:56 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

It is good that in this election the RNC/establishment are specifically being called-out as Left leaning organizations.

Terms like ‘steering back to the broad center’ are clear code words for ‘Leftist status quo’.


19 posted on 10/13/2011 9:55:39 AM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

The ass-kicking we’re going to give them in 2012 will dwarf what we gave them in 2010. The Establishment is delusional if they think otherwise.


20 posted on 10/13/2011 9:56:44 AM PDT by kevao
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To: Prokopton

typical go-along-to-get-along;politics-as-usual-RINOrat


21 posted on 10/13/2011 9:57:17 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: rockrr
RINO compromise=be reasonable and do it my way.

Don't forget to SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!

22 posted on 10/13/2011 9:59:45 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Rick Perry engages in corporate welfare via Texas TEF/ETF)
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To: rockrr
Compromise DC style. Dem says to Pubbie. I want your apple. Pubbie says no, I am making an apple dumpling. This goes on for a while. Dem says you must compromise. Media reports Pubbie is un reasonable. Finally Pubbie says ok, but just 1 bite.

Dem takes the bite, and immediately begins to whine that it wasn't enough, and he wants another bite at the apple. Mean Pubbie is starving others by not sharing. Media reports on Pubbie’s bad behavior and shows a crowd of “starving” dems.

Pubbie relents and allows another bite. This continues one bite at a time until the Pubbie is left with just the core, so he picks up a pear, and the whole process begins again.

At some point the Pubbies need to draw a line in the sand, and begin making the other side compromise, pushing the dems back from the cliff where they are trying to push us into the abyss.

23 posted on 10/13/2011 10:00:04 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: jpsb

The Tea party began while Palin was still in Alaska being Governor.

She is not responsible for it, nor is she responsible for why we have disappeared.

The Tea party was never supposed to have politicians as leaders. That hurts more than it helps.

It was a citizen thing that held all politicians feet to the fire.

Problem we really have is that it has been co-opted by politicians.

Now, eveyone sits back waiting for a leader rather than doing the work that we began with.


24 posted on 10/13/2011 10:00:53 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Brimack34

Yeah, we all need to worry about picking someone “who can win” as opposed to insisting our values are represented and respected by politicians.

The economy is BOOMING and everyone is getting wealthy because of the great job the establishment politicians have been doing so we owe them all our support, right?

Wrong.

They broke it. We have to fix it.


25 posted on 10/13/2011 10:01:23 AM PDT by Justa
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To: WOBBLY BOB

,,,,,,,,, the republican establishment just doesn’t get it ,,,,,, the Tea Party is Americana and we’re tired of compromising with the socialist enemy . That’s how we got in this mess ,,, a bunch of RINOs trying to get along with liberals and trading pet projects for congressional votes on unpopular bills instead of holding to any conservative value system . Today there is little difference between the liberal democRATs and the establishment RINO republicans . The TEA PARTY may just be the RIGHT cure for the liberal disease and a few more election cycles should bare witness to this trend .


26 posted on 10/13/2011 10:04:13 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: indylindy

Please cite for me a successful movement that did not have leaders? I am racking my brain trying to recall one. Best I can come up with is maybe the labor movement of the late 1800’s. Maybe.


27 posted on 10/13/2011 10:05:21 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: WOBBLY BOB

#5 Is good advice that I don’t think that most GOP establishment types would agree with.


28 posted on 10/13/2011 10:06:20 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

From the NY Slimes article:

“But maybe all the moment requires is someone who can pass as a broadly acceptable alternative — a candidate who doesn’t project the Tea Party extremism of Michele Bachmann or the radical isolationism of Ron Paul. “If we have a Rick Perry versus Mitt Romney battle for the nomination, it’s a little hard to say, ‘Ooh, the party has really gone off the rails,’ ” Kristol told me just after Perry entered the race, a development that essentially ended Bachmann’s brief ascent. Establishment Republicans may prefer Romney to Perry, but their assumption is that either man can be counted on to steer the party back toward the broad center next fall, effectively disarming the Tea Party mutiny.”

Don’t let the Party Boys Establishment pick the candidate for you. If the establishment-types don’t like a candidate, we should give that candidate a second look.


29 posted on 10/13/2011 10:06:36 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
The Ruling Establishments

In 1776 it was the British. In 1828 it was the Federalists. In 1860 it was the Whigs. In 1912 it was the Republicans. In 1980 it was the Democrats. And now it is the progressive crony capitalists of both parties. We wont get rid of them in 2012, just like we didn't get rid of them in 1980. A true collapse of the economy will have to occur before we can throw them out and start the rebuilding out of the ashes.

30 posted on 10/13/2011 10:08:13 AM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: Kartographer

Very well said.


31 posted on 10/13/2011 10:11:35 AM PDT by tbpiper (Sarah Palin is the antivenin for the Obama poison)
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To: MNJohnnie

Wow, no wonder they were so desperately trying to paint Cain in cahoots with Romney. It all makes total sense now.


32 posted on 10/13/2011 10:12:38 AM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

The Tea Party is very much alive, and after the next election, everyone will know it. As soon as Sarah Palin announced she wasn’t running, all the media and the Republican establishment jumped onto the “Tea Party is dead” band wagon. The Tea Party isn’t Sarah Palin. It is patriots who love America, believe in America, believe in the Constitution and conservative principles. We believe in liberty, freedom and private property. We believe in the power of the individual to succeed with hard work. We believe free people don’t need big government to be responsible for them. We believe in putting Americans first. We believe in prosperity and posterity, from protected border to protected border. If the Tea Party is dead, America is dead, and I don’t see it that way.


33 posted on 10/13/2011 10:13:41 AM PDT by pallis
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To: WOBBLY BOB

We can kill of the republican party if we need to... keep pushing you republican party marxists and we will.

LLS


34 posted on 10/13/2011 10:13:52 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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To: MNJohnnie

If the establishment continues along these lines, then within the next decade there will be a political realignment along the lines of Republicans/Whigs.

The new Party will be TEA Party. At that point I may needto change my handle to “Grunthor, TP.”


35 posted on 10/13/2011 10:15:30 AM PDT by Grunthor (Heartless Bigot for Cain.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Time to eliminate the GOP (establishment) and begin the long hard process of retaking our Country back!!!!!

Call all the RINO’s out for who they are, Bill Crystal light; Romney; Bennet; Jeb Bush etc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

American people = Tea Party

NEVER FORGET WHO THE RINO’s ARE!

36 posted on 10/13/2011 10:16:19 AM PDT by paratrooper82 (We are kicking Ass in Afghanistan, soon we will be home to kick some more Asses in Congress!)
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To: pallis

Great post, thanks!


37 posted on 10/13/2011 10:20:52 AM PDT by elephant
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To: Kartographer

Well said!!! Bravo!!!


38 posted on 10/13/2011 10:21:55 AM PDT by MarineMom613 (RIP Sandra Sue, my fur baby 12/31/1999 ~ 7/2/2010 - See you on the other side!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
This is exactly why having Freepers blabbering about how they will vote for a RINO as a last resort is damaging our chances of ever having a decent candidate.

OUCH! I resemble that remark and swear I will not indulge again.

39 posted on 10/13/2011 10:27:31 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Team Obama will not shrink from violence to remain in power. Be ready.)
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To: jpsb

Apparently you are not bothering to listen to a word Cain is saying or what he has done


40 posted on 10/13/2011 10:27:44 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

And there a lot of them...


41 posted on 10/13/2011 10:32:09 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: kevao
The ass-kicking we’re going to give them in 2012 will dwarf what we gave them in 2010. The Establishment is delusional if they think otherwise.

I hope a conservative Tea Party member can run against Boehner. All these Statist pigs should be defeated.

I pray all RINOS and their Rat comrades are slaughtered in an electoral bloodbath.

If our Republic is to survive, the Rats and Rinos must be politically destroyed.

42 posted on 10/13/2011 10:39:41 AM PDT by sand88
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To: MNJohnnie
Bingo! Nail head, meet hammer! Willard could not win much outside of New Hampster with its open primary, so the Pubbie Establishment needed a backup, someone it could portray as more conservative. Their answer? Slick Rick Perry. They fed the "yell leader" some slogans they knew would appeal to conservatives, like "Social Security is a Ponzi scheme." Of course it is, but Ricardo could not explain how, because he's just a mediocre hack politician.

I've got news for the country-club Pubbie establishment: Your days of exploiting us are over. We will never again back another Ivy League "compassionate conservative." This is war, because we alone want to save this republic. We will crush you, or die trying. My advice: get your wimpy, pansy, law-school behinds out of the way, punks.

43 posted on 10/13/2011 10:45:37 AM PDT by hellbender
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To: Kenny Bunk
It should be obvious, why the Hell should they listen to us if they get constant proof that we won't stand our ground?

We have people declaring surrender on a daily basis, right out in front of God and everybody.

It. is stupid and counterproductive>

There is a red letter warning every time you post, "LOOSE LIPS SINK SHIPS"!

44 posted on 10/13/2011 10:45:52 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I humbly disagree.

If the conservative loses in the primaries, the winner is our candidate. The MSM can do all they want to ensure a lib Republican is the nominee.

It’s up to us to also get our word out and promote conservatism as America’s guiding light.


45 posted on 10/13/2011 10:49:50 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (I am a Cainiac)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I’ll stand my ground, I will not vote for another RINO.


46 posted on 10/13/2011 10:57:47 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: greeneyes
Pubbie relents and allows another bite. This continues one bite at a time until the Pubbie is left with just the core, so he picks up a pear, and the whole process begins again.

You left out the last part, where MSM denounces the pubs for "failing" to produce the Apple Dumpling, then "flip-flopped" by switching to a pear.

.

47 posted on 10/13/2011 11:02:22 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Rush is hitting the Republican Establishment hard today. It’s good to hear....


48 posted on 10/13/2011 11:04:19 AM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: Fu-fu2

It’s good stuff! But he’s been hammering them for while. ESPECIALLY during the 2010 elections warning the Tea Party candidates not to get pushed to the side once elected.


49 posted on 10/13/2011 11:08:46 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: LibLieSlayer
LLS writes: We can kill off the republican party if we need to... keep pushing your republican party marxists and we will.

And SWAMPSNIPER wrote in #5: This is exactly why having Freepers blabbering about how they will vote for a RINO as a last resort is damaging our chances of ever having a decent candidate.

Political vampire Romney would suck the blood out of the Republican party and leave a pale corpse. He and the folks who voted for him will have killed the party off.

Could be the time is now to go offense and start a third party, and believe me, I never thought I'd say that, because a third party is a near-sure win for Democrats. But between Romney and any Democrat, a win for Republicans is assured to be as (and in some ways more) destructive for America as a win for Democrats.

If Romney gets in, it's time to kill the Republican party, put it out of its misery. This isn't sports, it's the survival of liberty and limited government in America. Once upon a time, a Republican victory meant the latter, but in the presidential race today, it's shaping up that a "win" is like sports: of zero material consequence which side wins.

If Romney is the GOP presidential candidate, my vote will go elsewhere because I love this country and recognize that Romney will do MORE DAMAGE to the Republican party morale and any ability to shrink government than Obama could do in his wildest dreams. Those of you willing to pull the lever for him simply because he's not Obama will be voting FOR big government, you'll be voting for and condoning STATISM, you'll be endorsing and validating everything you stand against, with that vote.

Rationalize all you want, but that is EXACTLY what you would be doing. It's what I would have done ten years ago, too -- but I'm sadder and wiser now. SWAMPSNIPER, I agree with you heartily, except that I know I mean what I write; I think the old party hacks are hoping most of us are bluffing. It will take guts, true guts, to stay the course of rejecting Romney.

50 posted on 10/13/2011 11:12:12 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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