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Gov. Rick Perry's Rape-Incest-Life-Of-Mother Abortion Exceptions Means Perry is NOT Pro-life
http://www.christiannewswire.com ^ | Sept. 21, 2011 | John Lofton

Posted on 10/20/2011 6:05:43 PM PDT by rintense

PASADENA, Md., Sept. 21, 2011 /Christian Newswire/ -- Katherine Cesinger, State Press Director, RickPerry.org, Inc., says, re: Governor Rick Perry's position on abortion: "His position has been consistent on this. Gov. Perry is pro-life, with exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother."

In response, Michael Anthony Peroutka, co-founder with his brother Steve of  "Institute On The Constitution" (TheAmericanView.com), has issued the following statement:


(Excerpt) Read more at christiannewswire.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; babykiller; heartless; incest; perry; prolife; rape; sourcetitlenoturl
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100% pro life, with exceptions, of course.
1 posted on 10/20/2011 6:05:49 PM PDT by rintense
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To: South40

Ahem.


2 posted on 10/20/2011 6:07:55 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense

seriously, get a life.


3 posted on 10/20/2011 6:08:18 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Oh I have one. What’s wrong? Can’t deal with the fact Perry isn’t 100% pro life???


4 posted on 10/20/2011 6:10:10 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense
Rick Perry signs anti-abortion pledge: August 2011
Last night, Perry signed a pledge calling for sweeping federal action to stop abortion and appoint anti-abortion advocates to top federal positions, including judgeships. The pledge, written and sponsored by the Susan B. Anthony Fund, has been signed by seven other presidential candidates with the exception of Mitt Romney, Jon Huntsman and Herman Cain.
5 posted on 10/20/2011 6:13:46 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA ( God Bless Our Military Heroes! ) (("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them"))
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To: rintense

If those are the rules I guess I am not pro-life either.

Rape Incest, to save the mother, all legitimate reasons if the abortion is carried out in the first trimester.

OK so flame me.


6 posted on 10/20/2011 6:14:32 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: rintense

What would Jesus say?


7 posted on 10/20/2011 6:15:56 PM PDT by South40 ('Heartless' since 1957)
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To: rintense

Gov. Rick Perry’s Rape-Incest-Life-Of-Mother Abortion Exceptions Means Perry is NOT Pro-life enough for some people.


8 posted on 10/20/2011 6:16:34 PM PDT by Grunthor (BEAT OBAMA WITH A CAIN!)
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To: rintense
I happen to know that of the few rape victims who become pregnant, a goodly proportion choose to keep their babies. Their problem is all the kibitzers and pro-abortion nurses and social workers who keep telling them that "of course you will want to get rid of the results of the rape."

Women who have had abortions under these circumstances often describe the abortion as "a second rape."

9 posted on 10/20/2011 6:17:08 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: GodBlessUSA

Meaningless if believe in ending the life of an innocent child.


10 posted on 10/20/2011 6:17:16 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense

Do you know : Susan B. Anthony Fund????


11 posted on 10/20/2011 6:17:19 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA ( God Bless Our Military Heroes! ) (("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them"))
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To: Venturer

You are not alone, however I don’t support the incest exception.


12 posted on 10/20/2011 6:17:33 PM PDT by Grunthor (BEAT OBAMA WITH A CAIN!)
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To: rintense

I always tell my kids....do your homework.


13 posted on 10/20/2011 6:18:14 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA ( God Bless Our Military Heroes! ) (("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them"))
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To: rintense

Now this on Cain: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/20/herman-cain-abortion-comments_n_1023046.html


14 posted on 10/20/2011 6:18:27 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: GodBlessUSA

Do you know: Thou shall not kill?


15 posted on 10/20/2011 6:18:27 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

“I happen to know that of the few rape victims who become pregnant, a goodly proportion choose to keep their babies.”

God bless them for making that choice.


16 posted on 10/20/2011 6:18:46 PM PDT by Grunthor (BEAT OBAMA WITH A CAIN!)
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To: rintense

If the criticism is good for the goose, it is good for the gander. :->


17 posted on 10/20/2011 6:19:03 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

HuffPo? Wow, are you desperate!


18 posted on 10/20/2011 6:19:59 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense
http://www.sba-list.org/
I do my homework :) Thanks
19 posted on 10/20/2011 6:20:17 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA ( God Bless Our Military Heroes! ) (("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them"))
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To: GodBlessUSA

I guess we know why Romney and Huntsman didnt sign the pledge but what was Cain’s reason?


20 posted on 10/20/2011 6:20:21 PM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: Venturer
Rape Incest, to save the mother, all legitimate reasons if the abortion is carried out in the first trimester.

Murder . . . that's all it is . . . 1st trimester? . . . exactly, and I do mean, exactly when does the 2nd trimester start . . . when . . . exactly . . . noon? what minute? . . . these are not silly questions . . . where do you draw the line between alive/can be killed and alive/can be saved.

To break down life to everything but 1st trimester is all words again . . . just words . . . but someone dies . . . someone real small . . . not a potential human, but a human.

The perp walks and the baby dies . . . no logic whatsoever. There is no gray area . . . the baby either is a baby or it's not . . . if not, what is it?

21 posted on 10/20/2011 6:20:49 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: rintense

OH PLEASE. ANYBODY IS BETTER THAN OBAMA


22 posted on 10/20/2011 6:20:57 PM PDT by bt579 (If you voted for Obama to prove you werent racist, vote someone else 2012 to prove ur not a Idiot)
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To: rintense

OH PLEASE. ANYBODY IS BETTER THAN OBAMA


23 posted on 10/20/2011 6:21:10 PM PDT by bt579 (If you voted for Obama to prove you werent racist, vote someone else 2012 to prove ur not a Idiot)
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To: mnehring

What goes around comes around. If people are going to create skeletons where there are none, they’d better be prepared for the ones that fall out of their closest when they’re not looking.


24 posted on 10/20/2011 6:21:36 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: GodBlessUSA

How about including the 10 Commandments in that.


25 posted on 10/20/2011 6:22:36 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense
No, just reporting and I could post a lot more but I figure if we let it, the truth will come out. I welcome the truth, no matter where it goes.

BTW, I know most of those quoted in that story.

26 posted on 10/20/2011 6:22:59 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: tirednvirginia
I wondered if Cain wasn't given the opportunity. I 'm going to look into this. It surprised me as well.
27 posted on 10/20/2011 6:23:17 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA ( God Bless Our Military Heroes! ) (("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them"))
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To: bt579

Read my tag.


28 posted on 10/20/2011 6:23:43 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense

Declared 2012 Republican Presidential Candidate
Current Governor of Texas

Rick Perry

Perry position on Abortion

Pro-Life
Perry is a staunch pro-life advocate.

“Gov. Perry is proudly pro-life and successfully championed strong pro-life legislation in Texas including parental consent, this year’s sonogram bill and a budget that significantly defunds abortions in Texas”

July 29, 2011, Katherine Cesinger, Perry’s spokeswoman

Federal ban on abortions
Perry supports the 10th Amendment, and as such, believe that abortions should be under the control of individual states, and not the federal government.

“You either have to believe in the 10th Amendment or you don’t,” Perry told reporters after a bill signing in Houston. You can’t believe in the 10th Amendment for a few issues and then [for] something that doesn’t suit you say, ‘We’d rather not have states decide that.”
July 27, 2011, ABC News

Adoption
Perry is a supporter of adoption as an alternative to abortion and threw his weight behind a proposed legislation to offer vehicle owners the option of a “choose life” license plate, to promote the cause. In addition, the $30 fees will be used towards funding the campaign.

“That is why I am wholeheartedly supporting proposed legislation authorizing a new license plate with a simple message: “choose life.” … For those who are champions of choice, this is a wonderful approach. Here in Texas, vehicle owners can choose from roughly 150 different license plate designs and show their support for causes ranging from coastal conservation to the March of Dimes to my alma mater… No driver will ever be forced to purchase this plate. However, those who make that choice will not only have a visible sign of their values, but will also be contributing to programs that encourage and support adoption. Texans who believe in the sanctity of life will have another to way to tell the world in a subtle but meaningful way. I hope that our Legislature will unite to offer them that opportunity.”

December 18, 2008, Press Release from Office of The Governor

The Choose Life plate bill, HB 238, was passed in the Texas House of Representative in May 2011 and Rick Perry, as Governor, signed the legislation on May 17, 2011.

Roe v. Wade
Perry has on numerous occasions referred to the Roe v. Wade decision as a ‘tragedy’.

He was invited to be the keynote speaker in the Texas Rally For Life organized by the Texas Alliance For Life in Austin on Jan 22, 2010.

“Why do legislators hide behind Roe v. Wade claiming it somehow protects babies? We know it doesn’t… Let’s let them know that Texas is here and Texas is Pro-Life… We need to strengthen our laws to better defend the defenseless, including a ban on using our tax dollars on abortion procedures in this state.”

Texas Rally for Life: kxan.com

Parental notification
Perry, as Lt. Governor, was a strong supporter of the Parental Notification Act of 1999 which was signed into law by former Texas Governor and United States President, George Bush in June 1999.

Parental Consent
Perry signed the Parental Consent Bill that would compel healthcare providers and minors to obtain parental consent before performing any abortion-related procedures

“Today we are laying down a significant marker in the effort to create a culture of life by protecting those who can’t protect themselves, by giving voice to the voiceless who yearn for life... It has been a tragedy of unspeakable consequences that, for decades, activist courts denied many Texas parents their right to be involved in one of the most important decision their young daughter could ever make: whether to end the life that was growing inside her... Because of it, an entire generation of unborn children have been forever lost to the tragedy of abortion... And certainly most of us can agree, when it is a child making such a weighty life and death decision, parents should be involved to provide proper guidance... For years we have not allowed a minor to get a tattoo or to receive an aspirin from a school nurse without parental permission. Should we not apply the same standard to such a life and death decision such as abortion?”

June 05, 2005, Press Release from Office of The Governor

Planned Parenthood
Rick Perry signed Senate Bill 7, which will defund Planned Parenthood of state funds valued at approximately $34 million and prevent state funding for elective abortions.

“Additionally, this bill helps protect those who need our protection the most, the unborn, underscoring our ongoing commitment that taxpayer money never be used to fund abortions.”
July 20, 2011

Embryonic stem cell research
While Perry is not against stem cell research involving adults, he is against embryonic stem cell research or using taxpayer funds for the same purpose.

“Every life is precious… the direction of stem cell research under the Obama administration was turning the remains of unborn children into nothing more than raw material... The Obama administration is ignoring the overriding responsibility of every government — that is to protect citizens at every stage of their lives, especially those who cannot protect themselves… Under Obama our federal tax dollars can now be used to fund abortion all over the world. With the stroke of a pen, abortion essentially became a U.S. foreign export,”

June 13, 2011, Rick Perry speaking at the ‘United For Life’ event at the Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena, Los Angeles – via Associated Press


29 posted on 10/20/2011 6:24:44 PM PDT by marty60
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Doesn’t surprise me at all you know someone quoted in HuffPo.


30 posted on 10/20/2011 6:25:23 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense

rin’, I agree. Innocent LIFE is innocent life. Apart from any circumstances, innocent life remains innocent LIFE. Maybe Perry is the lesser evil, however, who parses based on circumstances but would aggressively and actively appoint justices who would overturn abortion, or who would stand with states to ban abortion. Give me an answer as to what Cain would DO to stop abortion besides share be against it. I don’t like the dense parsing by way of circumstances of rape or incest. One might have the more righteous core belief in the Truth of the matter, but would do dang little to prevent abortion. The other may be, IMHO, morally dense, as Rick is said to be, but would DO much more to prevent abortion. On this issue, I am gettable. Talk to me.


31 posted on 10/20/2011 6:25:23 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: rintense

Huh??? I don’t think you have a valid point to debate here. Before you post smut posts, you should do your homework. Night


32 posted on 10/20/2011 6:26:03 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA ( God Bless Our Military Heroes! ) (("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them"))
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To: marty60

You forgot the asterisk *except in the case of rape, incest or mother’s life. A man who claims to be an evangelical Christian supporting the murder of an innocent child...


33 posted on 10/20/2011 6:26:43 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense

Alrighty then. Let’s go bomb some of them abortion clinics while you hold mah beer!

If this is the standard, then I am no longer pro-life.

If a woman gets raped by her brother and gets pregnant and is in danger of losing her life because of the pregnancy and wants an abortion, what should her fine Christian husband do or say to his wife?

What would you say or do if YOU were that woman?


34 posted on 10/20/2011 6:27:31 PM PDT by Chong (How's that HopEy, changEy, (thingEy) stuff working out for ya?)
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To: GodBlessUSA

Reading the 10 Commandments is smut??? Wow, you need help.


35 posted on 10/20/2011 6:27:36 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense

no your post is, duh.


36 posted on 10/20/2011 6:29:15 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA ( God Bless Our Military Heroes! ) (("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them"))
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To: Chong
I would not punish an innocent child, period. I swear... first we have illegals apologists and now we have abortion apologists?

Bad enough we can't defend and protect our country from illegals but when we can't defend and protect the most precious and innocent among us, God help us all.

37 posted on 10/20/2011 6:30:22 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: GodBlessUSA

Riiight. Care to point out where the smut is, genius?


38 posted on 10/20/2011 6:31:03 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: rintense

Well if you want to go down that road you have to be consistent. That’s mean you have to say Cain is not pro-life either. I think it’s a waste of time to be spending so much time on edge cases of abortions because of rape. I’ll settle for a President who will support pro-life constitutionalist judges and I think that would be the case for Cain or Perry.

“so is his (Cain’s) position is that the government should ban abortion in all instances? Uh, no. “I don’t believe government should make that decision,” he explains. If a woman is raped, it should be “her choice” whether or not to get an abortion”


39 posted on 10/20/2011 6:32:00 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: rintense

Keep trying....

Perry has already defunded Planned Parenthood in Texas.

All Cain can do is say, “Me, too!”


40 posted on 10/20/2011 6:32:57 PM PDT by beancounter13
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To: hinckley buzzard
I knew a woman who became pregnant the result of a rape. She weighed her options, listened to those counseling her and decided to abort the child. Almost immediately she regretted her decision and struggled to live with what she described as a tremendous guilt. Eventually, she began abusing drugs and alcohol and her life became a mess. On the second anniversary of her abortion she took her own life.

The woman, 19 at the time of the rape, was my next door neighbor and my friend and the man who raped her was her uncle.

41 posted on 10/20/2011 6:33:04 PM PDT by South40 ('Heartless' since 1957)
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To: rintense

Did you read the information I gave you about the pledge Perry signed. I ask again do you know who Susan B. Anthony Fund is? no you don’t and you care do ya? So keep digging for bologna on Perry. Your just going to dig yourself into a hole.


42 posted on 10/20/2011 6:33:14 PM PDT by GodBlessUSA ( God Bless Our Military Heroes! ) (("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them"))
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To: Chong

If a woman gets raped by her brother and gets pregnant and is in danger of losing her life because of the pregnancy and wants an abortion, what should her fine Christian husband do or say to his wife?


Why, he should chain her to the wall for the duration until delivery and FORCE her to birth the child. THEN he should be FORCED in turn to raise it and put his name on the birth certificate./s


43 posted on 10/20/2011 6:35:11 PM PDT by Grunthor (BEAT OBAMA WITH A CAIN!)
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To: rintense

Cain thinks abortion should be. personal choice and govt should not interfere in it.

How is this position different from Obama’s position.


44 posted on 10/20/2011 6:35:16 PM PDT by GregH
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To: rintense

Like he said get a life.


45 posted on 10/20/2011 6:36:26 PM PDT by marty60
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To: marty60

Oh you can bet I’d *keep* a life, not end it like Perry would.


46 posted on 10/20/2011 6:37:49 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: GodBlessUSA

And I ask you: is abortion murder or not?


47 posted on 10/20/2011 6:39:04 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Venturer

I agree with you and Perry’s position works for me. (Though I doubt I’ll vote for him.)


48 posted on 10/20/2011 6:41:07 PM PDT by sand lake bar (I believe in Adam West's invisible hand.)
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To: GregH

How is murdering an innocent child any different than Obama’s ‘being burdened with a baby’?


49 posted on 10/20/2011 6:41:07 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: GodBlessUSA; rintense

I wouldn’t give the Susan B. Anthony Fund a dime.

They are sexist and compromise on abortion. In California for the U.S. Senate race in 2010, they endorsed a phony female candidate who purported to be pro-life who just happened to be a multi-millionaire over a proven assemblyman with a 100% track record on pro-life issues who happened not to be a multi-millionaire. Hmmmm, wonder what swayed them.

Screw the SBA Fund.


50 posted on 10/20/2011 6:41:34 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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