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Herman Cain clarifies, sort of: I am 100% pro-life. End of story.
Hot Air ^ | October 20, 2011

Posted on 10/20/2011 6:40:19 PM PDT by wmfights

It’s a nice try but this doesn’t jibe with the exchange between him and Piers Morgan.

Yesterday in an interview with Piers Morgan on CNN, I was asked questions about abortion policy and the role of the President.

I understood the thrust of the question to ask whether that I, as president, would simply “order” people to not seek an abortion.

My answer was focused on the role of the President. The President has no constitutional authority to order any such action by anyone. That was the point I was trying to convey.

As to my political policy view on abortion, I am 100% pro-life. End of story.

I will appoint judges who understand the original intent of the Constitution. Judges who are committed to the rule of law know that the Constitution contains no right to take the life of unborn children.

I will oppose government funding of abortion. I will veto any legislation that contains funds for Planned Parenthood. I will do everything that a President can do, consistent with his constitutional role, to advance the culture of life.”

No one on either side is arguing that the president has a constitutional power to issue executive orders barring women from having abortions. I’ve never heard even a diehard pro-lifer suggest that, so in essence, he wants you to believe here that he was responding with a point that no one disputes to a question that no one ever asks. Which means either he’s lying about what he understood Morgan’s question to mean or he’s so unacquainted with the most basic terms of the abortion debate that he genuinely felt obliged to reassure Americans that he won’t be sending the FBI to pregnant women’s homes to make sure they carry to term. Bad, bad news either way.

Beyond that, though, it’s simply not true that his response to Morgan was couched in terms of the limits of presidential power. Go back and watch the clip again. Morgan asks him what he’d want his daughter or granddaughter to do and Cain quickly arrives at this answer:

No, it comes down to is, it’s not the government’s role — or anybody else’s role — to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you’re not talking about that big a number. So what I’m saying is, it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president. Not some politician. Not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn’t try to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive decision.

He’s talking about the entire government, not just the presidency, and of course it’s a core argument for pro-lifers that Congress should act to make this decision on behalf of women if/when Roe v. Wade is overturned. A moment later he told Morgan that his opinion as president shouldn’t necessarily operate as a “directive” on the nation, but then he was back to broad language about government again: “The government shouldn’t be trying to tell people everything to do, especially when it comes to a social decision that they need to make.” No pro-choicer could say it any better. How did we get from that to “I am 100% pro-life, end of story” in the span of 24 hours?

Question, then: Does this hurt him at all, and if it does, has the damage been done to his social conservative credibility or to his overall credibility, i.e. the basic belief that presidential candidates are fully engaged on complex but essential issues? For now, the rest of the field is attacking him on the former point. Santorum questioned his pro-life cred earlier this morning and then Perry, who desperately needs Cain to fade in social-con bastions like Iowa and South Carolina, issued this statement:

The campaign of Texas Gov. Rick Perry has responded to Cain’s comments, with Perry communications director Ray Sullivan saying, “A number of the Republicans candidates have flip flopped or been tripped up on the abortion issue. Governor Perry has been proudly pro-life for his entire career, successfully working to pass a parental consent law, a pre-abortion sonogram law, and defund Planned Parenthood in the state budget.”

That’s awfully timid. Let’s see what happens at the next debate. Until then, read HuffPo’s report on the reaction of Iowa social conservatives to what Cain told Morgan. Exit quotation from talk-radio host Steve Deace: “Cain is good at regurgitating talking points, but when he is forced to explain what he believes the devil is usually found in the details. Based on the testimony of his own words, Cain is neither ready, willing, nor able to honor the oath of office required of a President of the United States.”


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No one on either side is arguing that the president has a constitutional power to issue executive orders barring women from having abortions. I’ve never heard even a diehard pro-lifer suggest that, so in essence, he wants you to believe here that he was responding with a point that no one disputes to a question that no one ever asks. Which means either he’s lying about what he understood Morgan’s question to mean or he’s so unacquainted with the most basic terms of the abortion debate that he genuinely felt obliged to reassure Americans that he won’t be sending the FBI to pregnant women’s homes to make sure they carry to term. Bad, bad news either way.
1 posted on 10/20/2011 6:40:25 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: shield
The campaign of Texas Gov. Rick Perry has responded to Cain’s comments, with Perry communications director Ray Sullivan saying, “A number of the Republicans candidates have flip flopped or been tripped up on the abortion issue. Governor Perry has been proudly pro-life for his entire career, successfully working to pass a parental consent law, a pre-abortion sonogram law, and defund Planned Parenthood in the state budget.”

At least I know where Gov. Perry stands.

2 posted on 10/20/2011 6:42:56 PM PDT by wmfights (PERRY 2012)
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To: wmfights

Perry has a strong pro-life political record. Cain has a strong pro-life talk show record. People will have to decide which is more impressive.


3 posted on 10/20/2011 6:47:35 PM PDT by magritte
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To: wmfights

I like the fact that Perry did NOT attack Cain, he just stated his position. Too bad the others didn’t do that for him.


4 posted on 10/20/2011 6:47:54 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: wmfights

Cain’s “fatal” flaw is that he actually answers question honestly.

He was asked about whether a rape victim should be forced to “keep” her baby. It was implicitly about adoption, and a poorly worded question.


5 posted on 10/20/2011 6:49:12 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: wmfights

It was quite clear to me. He is against abortion and will install Judges that will enable an overturn of Roe v Wade, but he will not be a king and impose his personal choice on any individual. He is against it in all cases and has a history of a pro-life activist. That is a constitutional conservative voicing his love of individual liberty. No one in America orders free men or commands them. The Libs are trying to trip him with gotcha questions to make it appear confusing just as they are with the 9-9-9.


6 posted on 10/20/2011 6:50:24 PM PDT by Stymee (Beat Obama with a Cain!)
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To: wmfights
I believe in my gut Cain is pro-life. This was not a tricky question. Cain made it a tricky question.
7 posted on 10/20/2011 6:50:48 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: magritte

Cain said he’s 100% pro life on Hannity’s talk show today. I’ll take the man at his word. Lets stop making him out to be Rudy Giuliani on the issue?


8 posted on 10/20/2011 6:50:57 PM PDT by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: wmfights
Yeah, he's proudly pro life except with rape, incest or threat to mother's life.
9 posted on 10/20/2011 6:51:22 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: wmfights

“At least I know where Gov. Perry stands.”

Do you now?

http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/1043417825.html


10 posted on 10/20/2011 6:51:41 PM PDT by Grunthor (BEAT OBAMA WITH A CAIN!)
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To: wmfights
Just read what he said and what he was responding to:

"I believe that life begins at conception. And abortion under no circumstances," Cain said. Morgan asked Cain if that meant he felt the procedure was impermissible in cases of rape and incest, which many anti-abortion activists and conservatives carve out exceptions for. Cain reiterated that there were "no circumstances" under which he supported abortion. "If one of your female children, grandchildren was raped, you would honestly want her to bring up that baby as her own?" Morgan asked. Cain said that Morgan was "mixing" questions, but then replied: "No, it comes down to it's not the government's role or anybody else's role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you're not talking about that big a number. So what I'm saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president, not some politician, not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn't have to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive issue."

Morgan had asked a new question regarding 'bring her up as your own'- Cain was responding to raising the child (versus giving up for adoption). People are incorrectly responding to that as if he was saying if abortion should be legal.


11 posted on 10/20/2011 6:52:59 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Beelzebubba
Bullsh!t. Now I am sick of this spin coming out of the Cain camp. This was a question about abortion. he knew it. The whole segment was about abortion. He is making this difficult and with the spin coming out on this I am starting to wonder what he really does mean. At first I just took it as trying not to get tripped up. Now with their “it was about adoption” spin I am not sure. Stop digging Herman.
12 posted on 10/20/2011 6:53:35 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy
This was not a tricky question. Cain made it a tricky question.

It is becoming a pattern.

13 posted on 10/20/2011 6:53:53 PM PDT by wmfights (PERRY 2012)
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To: tflabo

Agreed. Listen, Cain is a man, plus has held no political office. He can ONLY have an opinion on abortion. He has the same position as all other candidates but Romney.


14 posted on 10/20/2011 6:54:09 PM PDT by magritte
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To: wmfights

There is no one on Free Republic more anti-abortion than me. I don’t even agree with exceptions for rape, life of the mother, etc.

That said, government cannot force people to live honorably.

Our societal rot cannot be solved by Washington, even by good leaders in office. Abortion, as well as immoral behavior of all other kinds, grows from hearts full of evil in a society that not only condones but applauds it.

Cain is absolutely correct that free people make choices to behave badly. Washington cannot help that.

We’ve let our society deteriorate to the point that we are now in a miserable and godless time.

The answer is to change hearts. The question is whether it is too late.


15 posted on 10/20/2011 6:54:50 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: wmfights
Social conservatives, unlike certain political operatives, know the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

Bearing False Witness is still a sin.

What is being reported here , and what was actually said by Cain, are two completely different things.

"I believe that life begins at conception. And abortion under no circumstances," Cain said. Morgan asked Cain if that meant he felt the procedure was impermissible in cases of rape and incest, which many anti-abortion activists and conservatives carve out exceptions for.

Cain reiterated that there were "no circumstances" under which he supported abortion. "If one of your female children, grandchildren was raped, you would honestly want her to bring up that baby as her own??"

Morgan asked. Cain said that Morgan was "mixing" questions, but then replied: "No, it comes down to it's not the government's role or anybody else's role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you're not talking about that big a number. So what I'm saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president, not some politician, not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn't have to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive issue."

I don't know how he could make it any clearer then this.

People around here who are emotionally tied to other candidates in the campaign need to keep in mind the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion. Bearing false witness is still a sin.

16 posted on 10/20/2011 6:55:50 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: magritte
Cain has a strong pro-life talk show record.

I didn't know putting up millions upon millions of your own dollars toward pro-life causes is a 'talk show' record? He has always been a pro-life champion and that was never questioned until the media started playing with everyone to tear down all the Conservative candidates so they can anoint Romney.

African American Businessman Spends 1M to Urge Blacks to Vote Pro-Life (Herman Cain 2006)

Herman Cain: Defund Racist Planned Parenthood Abortion Biz

Herman Cain...statement after the Senate voted to ban Partial-Birth Abortion:

Herman Cain blasts Roe v. Wade (from 2004)

17 posted on 10/20/2011 6:55:55 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: McGavin999

Good point


18 posted on 10/20/2011 6:55:55 PM PDT by wmfights (PERRY 2012)
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To: wmfights
Herman Cain's personal position on abortion seems to differ from his understanding of what the role of government is when it comes to the abortion issue.

Cain says life begins at conception and he opposes abortion. So does John Kerry! But Kerry also supports abortion rights through government. Sounds like Cain believes government has no role in the abortion issue.

Which is it, Herman?

19 posted on 10/20/2011 6:56:18 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: magritte

I’ve decided that you perrywinkles are absolutely crazy...
go sit in a hole your candidate is a loser.


20 posted on 10/20/2011 6:57:30 PM PDT by Carl from Marietta (Herman Cain 2012..get on the CAIN train!)
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To: mnehring

Urging blacks to vote pro-life is nice, but being in office where you can make ACTUAL change is more important, wouldn’t you say?


21 posted on 10/20/2011 6:57:41 PM PDT by magritte
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To: normy
Social conservatives, unlike certain political operatives, know the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

Bearing False Witness is still a sin.

What is being reported here , and what was actually said by Cain, are two completely different things.

"I believe that life begins at conception. And abortion under no circumstances," Cain said. Morgan asked Cain if that meant he felt the procedure was impermissible in cases of rape and incest, which many anti-abortion activists and conservatives carve out exceptions for.

Cain reiterated that there were "no circumstances" under which he supported abortion. "If one of your female children, grandchildren was raped, you would honestly want her to bring up that baby as her own??"

Morgan asked. Cain said that Morgan was "mixing" questions, but then replied: "No, it comes down to it's not the government's role or anybody else's role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you're not talking about that big a number. So what I'm saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president, not some politician, not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn't have to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive issue."

I don't know how he could make it any clearer then this.

People around here who are emotionally tied to other candidates in the campaign need to keep in mind the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

22 posted on 10/20/2011 6:57:46 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: normy

You’re a freaking idiot.


23 posted on 10/20/2011 6:58:33 PM PDT by Carl from Marietta (Herman Cain 2012..get on the CAIN train!)
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To: normy

It was two questions. They took the second question out and strung his answers together to make him sound less pro-life. I’m sure it is not the last fabrication we will see.


24 posted on 10/20/2011 6:58:50 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: magritte
Social conservatives, unlike certain political operatives, know the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

Bearing False Witness is still a sin.

What is being reported here , and what was actually said by Cain, are two completely different things.

"I believe that life begins at conception. And abortion under no circumstances," Cain said. Morgan asked Cain if that meant he felt the procedure was impermissible in cases of rape and incest, which many anti-abortion activists and conservatives carve out exceptions for.

Cain reiterated that there were "no circumstances" under which he supported abortion. "If one of your female children, grandchildren was raped, you would honestly want her to bring up that baby as her own??"

Morgan asked. Cain said that Morgan was "mixing" questions, but then replied: "No, it comes down to it's not the government's role or anybody else's role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you're not talking about that big a number. So what I'm saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president, not some politician, not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn't have to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive issue."

I don't know how he could make it any clearer then this.

People around here who are emotionally tied to other candidates in the campaign need to keep in mind the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

25 posted on 10/20/2011 6:58:50 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: normy
spin coming out of the Cain camp.

You are saying this is 'spin coming from Cain' when he was sandbagged by a talk show host who was fired by the BBC for faking Iraq war torture photos? Jeeze, amazing how people trust the media now over someone with a lifetime pro-life record.

26 posted on 10/20/2011 6:58:50 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Carl from Marietta

Thanks for your helpful insights, and your fine grammatical sense. I look forward to more in the future.


27 posted on 10/20/2011 6:59:58 PM PDT by magritte
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To: magritte
...but being in office where you can make ACTUAL change is more important, wouldn’t you say?

Then let's get him in office. Lord knows the career politicians who 'talk' on the subject haven't gotten anything of substance done (on this or any other Conservative issue). Maybe it is time to stop the 'doing the same thing over and over expecting different results' with these career politicians.

28 posted on 10/20/2011 7:00:28 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: normy

Please look at post 11 and read for yourself. Before publishing it in attack form, they took out Morgan’s second question to make it sound pro-death.


29 posted on 10/20/2011 7:01:05 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: normy
The bullshit is your childish ignorance. READ it for youself. Social conservatives, unlike certain political operatives, know the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

Bearing False Witness is still a sin.

What is being reported here , and what was actually said by Cain, are two completely different things.

"I believe that life begins at conception. And abortion under no circumstances," Cain said. Morgan asked Cain if that meant he felt the procedure was impermissible in cases of rape and incest, which many anti-abortion activists and conservatives carve out exceptions for.

Cain reiterated that there were "no circumstances" under which he supported abortion. "If one of your female children, grandchildren was raped, you would honestly want her to bring up that baby as her own??"

Morgan asked. Cain said that Morgan was "mixing" questions, but then replied: "No, it comes down to it's not the government's role or anybody else's role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you're not talking about that big a number. So what I'm saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president, not some politician, not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn't have to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive issue."

I don't know how he could make it any clearer then this.

People around here who are emotionally tied to other candidates in the campaign need to keep in mind the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

30 posted on 10/20/2011 7:01:12 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie
I watched that interview and the one by Fox. He did the same thing. The whole frame and context was about abortion. This was not apples and oranges.

By the way, "the Law is not made for the righteous man but for the ungodly."

31 posted on 10/20/2011 7:02:07 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: MNJohnnie
He’s talking about the entire government, not just the presidency, and of course it’s a core argument for pro-lifers that Congress should act to make this decision on behalf of women if/when Roe v. Wade is overturned. A moment later he told Morgan that his opinion as president shouldn’t necessarily operate as a “directive” on the nation, but then he was back to broad language about government again: “The government shouldn’t be trying to tell people everything to do, especially when it comes to a social decision that they need to make.” No pro-choicer could say it any better. How did we get from that to “I am 100% pro-life, end of story” in the span of 24 hours?

He is talking out of both sides of his mouth.

32 posted on 10/20/2011 7:02:12 PM PDT by wmfights (PERRY 2012)
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To: wmfights
Patter? You mean the Perrybots lying about Cain? Yes that is an old tired pattern we see here every day. Social conservatives, unlike certain political operatives, know the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

Bearing False Witness is still a sin.

What is being reported here , and what was actually said by Cain, are two completely different things.

"I believe that life begins at conception. And abortion under no circumstances," Cain said. Morgan asked Cain if that meant he felt the procedure was impermissible in cases of rape and incest, which many anti-abortion activists and conservatives carve out exceptions for.

Cain reiterated that there were "no circumstances" under which he supported abortion. "If one of your female children, grandchildren was raped, you would honestly want her to bring up that baby as her own??"

Morgan asked. Cain said that Morgan was "mixing" questions, but then replied: "No, it comes down to it's not the government's role or anybody else's role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you're not talking about that big a number. So what I'm saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president, not some politician, not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn't have to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive issue."

I don't know how he could make it any clearer then this.

People around here who are emotionally tied to other candidates in the campaign need to keep in mind the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

33 posted on 10/20/2011 7:02:26 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: wmfights

Cain is 1005 PRO LIFE and says life begins at conception on Hannity interview today - good enough for me


34 posted on 10/20/2011 7:03:11 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I STAND WITH ISREAL)
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To: MNJohnnie
Bearing False Witness is still a sin.

Darn, I must have missed the part where it says, "unless you are tearing down every other candidate but your own" clause. That must have been in one of those 'lost books' of the Bible.

Johnnie, do you remember the good old days when a majority of FReepers were good at discerning when the media was trying to play them? Now,they just play along and smile.

35 posted on 10/20/2011 7:03:15 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: rintense

Cain also says believes in woman’s choice on abortion in case of rape. So if you are going to go after Perry on that aspect you have to go after Cain as well.


36 posted on 10/20/2011 7:03:19 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: magritte
Agreed, you are a shameless liar.

Social conservatives, unlike certain political operatives, know the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

Bearing False Witness is still a sin.

What is being reported here , and what was actually said by Cain, are two completely different things.

"I believe that life begins at conception. And abortion under no circumstances," Cain said. Morgan asked Cain if that meant he felt the procedure was impermissible in cases of rape and incest, which many anti-abortion activists and conservatives carve out exceptions for.

Cain reiterated that there were "no circumstances" under which he supported abortion. "If one of your female children, grandchildren was raped, you would honestly want her to bring up that baby as her own??"

Morgan asked. Cain said that Morgan was "mixing" questions, but then replied: "No, it comes down to it's not the government's role or anybody else's role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you're not talking about that big a number. So what I'm saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president, not some politician, not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn't have to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive issue."

I don't know how he could make it any clearer then this.

People around here who are emotionally tied to other candidates in the campaign need to keep in mind the 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

37 posted on 10/20/2011 7:03:27 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: mnehring

And that would be wonderful. Perry indeed has a solid record as well, so I would hope we can agree that, while Perry has actually done pro-life in the arena, Cain has the potential to do the same things as Perry in the office of President.


38 posted on 10/20/2011 7:03:41 PM PDT by magritte
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To: Reagan Man
Cain says life begins at conception and he opposes abortion. So does John Kerry! But Kerry also supports abortion rights through government. Sounds like Cain believes government has no role in the abortion issue.

A perfect summary.

39 posted on 10/20/2011 7:03:49 PM PDT by wmfights (PERRY 2012)
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To: Beelzebubba

Right now, Cain is our best shot.

Perry can’t speak at all. His positions are right on everything except the illegal alien subject.

Romney is unthinkable and totally unacceptable. The longer this goes on, the worse he looks philosophically. He would be to the LEFT of Bush II.

Bachmann can’t get off the ground.

Paul is too old and a foreign policy catastrophe.

Santorum ain’t going anywhere.

Gingrich would be great but has no traction so far.

That’s pretty much it.


40 posted on 10/20/2011 7:04:22 PM PDT by ZULU (ANYBODY BUT ROMNEY)
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To: Ingtar
Look, I watched the video. I watched the it. I try to go to the link before I even read the comments. I thought "I know this guy is pro-life so why is making this question so difficult?"

I also watch the John Stossel interview and the liberal on the show, who is a complete punk, actually thought Cain was agreeing with him as did Stossel as did I.

I think he's afraid of getting pinned down. This is an out of the ball park question.

41 posted on 10/20/2011 7:05:23 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: plain talk; rintense
Cain also says believes in woman’s choice on abortion in case of rape

Where did he say that? In the interview everyone is twisting, he was very clear that it shouldn't be legal even under that circumstance. I have posted almost a dozen articles on Cain's pro-life position today, from archives to current ones, and none of those he has ever voiced that position

42 posted on 10/20/2011 7:05:46 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: magritte; wmfights; normy
African American Businessman Spends 1M to Urge Blacks to Vote Pro-Life (Herman Cain 2006)

Nice try Perrybots. But find another attack lie to push about Cain cause this one ain't going to hunt.

43 posted on 10/20/2011 7:05:58 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Carl from Marietta

My candidate would have knocked that question so far out of the ballpark you would never find it. Cain bunted. Grow up.


44 posted on 10/20/2011 7:06:37 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: wmfights
How did we get from that to “I am 100% pro-life, end of story” in the span of 24 hours?

Because the Perrygasmics want to ignore the fact that the answer they are twisting was to a question not about abortion, but whether his (hypotheitically raped) grandchild should have to raise the child after birth. A child, who in Perry's views, should be able to be aborted by the way.

45 posted on 10/20/2011 7:06:42 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: mnehring

I WATCHED THE INTERVIEW AND THE ONE WITH STOSSEL YOU SHOULD TOO! Can you hear me now? If you didn’t watch the two videos you need to before commenting. I didn’t even look at the transcript I went straight to the video.


46 posted on 10/20/2011 7:08:29 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: plain talk
I believe that life begins at conception. And abortion under no circumstances," Cain said. Morgan asked Cain if that meant he felt the procedure was impermissible in cases of rape and incest, which many anti-abortion activists and conservatives carve out exceptions for. Cain reiterated that there were "no circumstances" under which he supported abortion.

Did you not even read or hear the answer? Or did you simply want to believe a convenient lie?

47 posted on 10/20/2011 7:08:43 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: wmfights; normy
The 9th Commandment is not a suggestion.

If you do not like being exposed as liars, quit lying.

48 posted on 10/20/2011 7:08:43 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: magritte

I like Perry a lot but tearing everyone else down because he isn’t Perry (or whoever) doesn’t help him, it just pisses people off. Let’s also be real, Perry isn’t helping himself lately. He is almost pulling a Fred Thompson (who I strongly supported) where a lot of people were hoping for him but he didn’t come through. Right now, Perry is even losing to Cain in Texas. Let’s not tear down all the other Conservative candidates because the one we like isn’t doing well.

.. the media is egging all of this on.. they did it to Bachmann when she was leading. Then when Perry took the lead, they did it to him.. now that Cain took the lead, they are doing it to him...

..and we are enabling them.

Remember who the enemy is here.


49 posted on 10/20/2011 7:09:06 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Yep.


50 posted on 10/20/2011 7:09:52 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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