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Stop the assault on Nevada’s right to enforce its own gun laws (barf alert)
Las Vegas Sun ^ | 22 oct 2011 | Daniel Vice

Posted on 10/22/2011 4:40:43 AM PDT by rellimpank

In an unprecedented assault on states’ rights and our ability to keep our communities safe, the gun lobby is pushing dangerous federal legislation to override Nevada’s gun laws. The National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act, more accurately called the Packing Heat on Your Street Act, would allow out-of-state visitors to carry loaded, concealed handguns even if these folks would be violating Nevada law. Nevada residents, on the other hand, would be subject to a different, tougher set of standards for carrying concealed weapons.

Even the NRA has admitted that this is a full-on attack against the very notion that states may set their own strong public safety laws, with the NRA bluntly arguing that “states don’t have rights.” This is the gun lobby’s excuse for federal intrusion into Nevada’s decision to require basic safety training and prohibit gun carrying by alcohol abusers and many violent criminals. If this law is enacted, a new standard would be set for out-of-state visitors

(Excerpt) Read more at lasvegassun.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: banglist; nra; rkba
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---clutching at straws---
1 posted on 10/22/2011 4:40:49 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

If my neighbors can all pack heat on my street, I have much less to worry about from would-be robbers.


2 posted on 10/22/2011 4:43:40 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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...with the NRA bluntly arguing that “states don’t have rights.”

1) I'd like to see that whole quote, in context, thank you.

2) These days, that's not an inaccurate statement.

3 posted on 10/22/2011 4:48:37 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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Funny he didn’t mention the THOUSANDS on INNOCENT PEOPLE GUNNED DOWN by LAS VEGAS POLICE. If abusing Alcohol is grounds to have your RIGHT to possess a gun revoked, How in the Hell does ANY COP IN VEGAS HAVE A GUN?? Wouldn’t it be a better IDEa to just make it a FELONY for ANY PERSON to consume any MOOD ALTERING or Performance enhancing substance while in Possession of a Firearm, but that would Put every last COP and JUDGE in PRISON, which is where most of them belong. .


4 posted on 10/22/2011 4:49:59 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: rellimpank

Written by the Atty for Handgun Control Inc.


5 posted on 10/22/2011 4:52:26 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: eyeamok

Actually, not only should felons (not currently serving a sentence) not have their right to own guns taken from them, there should be NO state laws concerning them. It’s amazing how many people can’t understand the simple phrase “shall not be infringed.”

But the LVMPD are murderers, that we can agree upon.


6 posted on 10/22/2011 4:58:46 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: rellimpank

How dare Washington enforce Freedom of Speech, Freedom of Assembly, Freedom to Worship over Nevada’s laws!

Oh, sorry. That was the 1st Amendment. We’re only talking about the 2nd Amendment. It’s okay to ignore the Constitution.


7 posted on 10/22/2011 5:00:02 AM PDT by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: Future Snake Eater
--did a short search of the latest NRA info and couldn't find the quote but I did see it-

-context was that "governments" don't have rights --only people do, a statement with which I totally agree---

8 posted on 10/22/2011 5:05:45 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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Just ignoring which part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED is Nevada supposed to be able to get away with?

I suppose the Constitution is trumped by state law??


9 posted on 10/22/2011 5:12:59 AM PDT by Flintlock (s)
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What's the problem? This is presidential candidate Herman Cain's position. 2nd amendment is a states rights issue
10 posted on 10/22/2011 5:16:28 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: JDW11235

I agree wholeheartedly, but if we are going to continue to pass and enforce blatantly unconstitutional laws, then instead of disagreeing with them I say Embrace the idea and make the LAW APPLY TO ALL PERSONS, NO SPECIAL RIGHTS, NO PRIVILEGES, NO IMMUNITIES of ANY KIND for ANY PERSON EVER. Then they can all live under the SAME laws as us, isn’t that the meaning of “ EQUAL PROTECTION”??


11 posted on 10/22/2011 5:21:32 AM PDT by eyeamok
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I agree. However, you must be forgetting that all animals are equal, but some pigs are more equal than sheeple./s


12 posted on 10/22/2011 5:34:24 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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This is the gun lobby’s excuse for federal intrusion into Nevada’s decision to require basic safety training and prohibit gun carrying by alcohol abusers and many violent criminals.

I guess this means violent criminals can legally carry in other states?

13 posted on 10/22/2011 5:53:52 AM PDT by umgud
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Actually, not only should felons (not currently serving a sentence) not have their right to own guns taken from them,...

That is part of their sentence, a type of parole. It is fully within the purview of a state legislature to decide the punishment for crimes within the state. If they decide that lifetime conditions be placed on convicted felons, that is perfectly within the confines of the U.S. Constitution. It is the responsibility of the citizens of that state to elect legislators that will pass reasonable restrictions.

I don't follow that serving a prison term squares everything and that the criminal gets a reset to zero. Being locked away so that you can't harm innocents IS NOT the repayment of a debt. I think that a violent rapist should never again be treated as a full citizen in good standing, and I will vote for legislators that agree with me.

14 posted on 10/22/2011 6:00:25 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: rellimpank

It always irritates me when I hear the left refer to the Second Amendment as “the gun lobby.”


15 posted on 10/22/2011 6:26:26 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Abolish TSA....Abolish Department of Fatherland Security...Just Say NO to the American Police State!)
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I agree that the extremely violent should have their rights curtailed after they leave prison, but not most other prisoners. The only thing that does is help insure that they will return to prison. They are turned away from lots of jobs, unnecessarily,and as far as being able to obtain a weapon if they want one,they will get it anyway. Gun laws of any kind are the stupidest thing legislators have ever come up with.


16 posted on 10/22/2011 6:40:20 AM PDT by Quickgun (As a former fetus, I'm opposed to abortion. Mamas don't let your cowboys grow up to be babies..)
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To: rellimpank

OTOH, Nevada doesn’t mind idiot drivers from other states...


17 posted on 10/22/2011 6:42:13 AM PDT by CPOSharky (The only thing straight, white, Christian males get is the blame for everything.)
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To: rellimpank
"Laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding", "shall not be infringed".

Dang it I hate when people gloss over something so simple.

18 posted on 10/22/2011 6:47:27 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: normy
2nd amendment is a states rights issue

No, it is not. It is a guaranteed individual right.

19 posted on 10/22/2011 6:49:04 AM PDT by Ken H (They are running out of other people's money. )
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To: rellimpank

I figured it had to be something like that. Whenever gun rights comes up, the left will lie more than usual to get people to their side.


20 posted on 10/22/2011 6:49:51 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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