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1 posted on 10/22/2011 6:54:30 AM PDT by tobyhill
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The idea that we can compute what the temperature IS or SHOULD BE at any given time for every point on earth is an absurdity. Main is soooooo vain.


2 posted on 10/22/2011 6:56:19 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Hmmmmmmmmm a coordinated assault on our sensibilities!?

Last night a post on a new study by some yazoo at Berkeley “proves” Global Warming according to the BBC, and now this.

I see a desperate attempt to BS us once again in progress.


3 posted on 10/22/2011 6:58:19 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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The Climategate study indicated there was going to be a “tipping point” where the Earth suddenly warmed up and could not revert to its previous state. This study took the data and ran it again. This, and National Council for Atmospheric Research computer simulations, show that the warming will have no tipping point. If we remove the carbon dioxide and methane from the atmosphere, the Earth cools. It's better science.

The facts are there. What's causing the warming? Solar activity? (Some). Increased CO2 levels (Some, probably more).

What do we do about it?

Let the free market decide, not an EPA czar.

4 posted on 10/22/2011 6:59:01 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, serve my country, love my wife and daughter, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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Note: The authors of this study refused to let it be peer-reviewed, chosing instead to first release it to the media. That should tell you everything you need to know.


5 posted on 10/22/2011 7:03:43 AM PDT by circlecity
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Most climate scientists attribute warming since the mid-1950, at least to some degree, to carbon dioxide emissions from human activities

"at least to some degree" is not conclusive scientific fact, but more like: maybe, kinda, sorta... I think...

And who is this "most?" 51%? 99%? What of those not in the "most" category... are they wrong, idiots, heretics... or actually trying to use fact-based science?

6 posted on 10/22/2011 7:04:07 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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The Al Gore types continue to beat this dead horse thinking that if they can just beat it hard enough and fast enough it will live again.


7 posted on 10/22/2011 7:05:55 AM PDT by JPG (America is worth saving. All hands on deck!)
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“Most climate scientists attribute warming since the mid-1950, at least to some degree, to carbon dioxide emissions from human activities – burning coal, oil, and to a lesser extent gas, and from land-use changes.”

Most of THESE self proclaimed “climate scientists” have an agenda that drives them to focus in areas other than natural solar fluctuations.


8 posted on 10/22/2011 7:07:09 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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Does anybody believe NASA and NOAA are populated with objective scientists?
Somebody offers to pay them to study a “problem” and NASA/NOAA are expected to come back and tell them, “Nope, just natural fluctuations, no manmade problem here”....


9 posted on 10/22/2011 7:11:00 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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Follow the money!


12 posted on 10/22/2011 7:14:02 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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Have they yet to explain the occurrence of the Ice Age, the melting of the Ice Age, the mini Ice Age and the melting of it....all without human involvement?
13 posted on 10/22/2011 7:16:03 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Get ready for an aberration of historic proportions" - Herman Cain)
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“confirming previous studies that have found a climate that has been warming – in fits and starts – since around 1900.

Most climate scientists attribute warming since the mid-1950, at least to some degree, to carbon dioxide emissions from human activities – burning coal, oil, and to a lesser extent gas, and from land-use changes.”

OK, so this warming started around 1900, but only since the mid 50s (to some degree!!) was it caused by man’s activities. Just what caused the “warming” between 1900 and the 50s?


18 posted on 10/22/2011 7:27:12 AM PDT by smalltownslick
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No, Glowbull Warming isn’t real, but communists in the white house is.

Here, focus on this false threat while you ignore the real threat.


20 posted on 10/22/2011 7:32:48 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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Typically bad reporting by the drive-by media. The reality of periodic global warming (I thought we are now supposed to call it "climate change") as an episodic feature of the global climate is a well recognized fact of history. Most of mankind's advances have come during periods of warming, and stagnation and hardship during periods of cooling.

Scientists are skeptical mainly of the alarmists' irresponsible predictions and unsubstantiated attributions of cause to trivial phenomena like how much coal we burn, while ignoring fluctuations in solar activity that correlate historically with climate change.

This "blue ribbon" team at least have the good sense not to make any judgment as to the cause of their alleged "warming." They let their financial backers believe that they were going to produce an elephant but have labored mightily instead to give birth to a gnat.

I think the authors have doubts that this study will stand up to scrutiny. They posted it on a berzerkely blog instead of submitting it to review by qualified skeptical peers. I think I'll wait for the process to go forward before taking even these modest findings very seriously.

21 posted on 10/22/2011 7:33:27 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Well of COURSE global warming is real, and it has been for, literally, millions of years.

Sometimes the clobe is warmer, sometimes the globe is cooler, and it's been happening WITHOUT mankinds help for longer than mankind has been around.

29 posted on 10/22/2011 7:46:40 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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The universe has its own system...

We didn't cause global cooling and we're not causing global warming.

We don't cause sunrise, sunset, sunspots, tidal waves, cloudy days, sunny days, hurricanes....etc etc etc

The Universe is HUGE!!!

30 posted on 10/22/2011 7:46:49 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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‘Climate reports’ are a dime a doze these days....literally. =.=


31 posted on 10/22/2011 7:51:38 AM PDT by cranked
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There are several misstatements of position the left uses to frame their debates:
1. The right is against illegal immigrant rights.
2. The right is against embryonic stem sell research.
3. The right denies anthropogenic global warming.
33 posted on 10/22/2011 8:02:28 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (999er for Cain.)
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I visualize Herman Munster jumping up and down:
34 posted on 10/22/2011 8:08:14 AM PDT by TomGuy
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This study has to go through peer review before it can be claimed to say anything.


37 posted on 10/22/2011 8:15:44 AM PDT by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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MEET THE NEW LYING CROOKS!
SAME AS THE OLD LYING CROOKS.


38 posted on 10/22/2011 8:20:40 AM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi)
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