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Posted on 10/22/2011 2:23:56 PM PDT by justsaynomore
Negotiations on the federal debt ceiling aren't aiming high enough, Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said in the Quad-Cities on Monday, arguing he would like to see spending cuts go as high as $6 trillion over 10 years, two to three times the level now being contemplated.
Cain, the former chief executive of Godfather's Pizza, blamed President Barack Obama and Congress for allowing the debt ceiling talks to come down to the wire, saying it's a failure of leadership. In an interview, he rejected the idea negotiators should satisfy themselves with $2 trillion in cuts over 10 years.
"It's not enough," he said. "I'd like to see, over 10 years, somewhere in the range of $5-to-$6 trillion. And I happen to believe that it is perfectly doable if you do one of the things I have been advocating out here on this campaign journey. Restructure these programs. As long as we're talking about just cutting them and not restructuring them, then they're never going to get their hands around the whole issue of spending."
Over the weekend, a White House proposal to put together a $4 trillion in deficit reductions over 10 years as part of a deal to raise the debt ceiling was rejected.
Republicans have said they won't go along with revenue increases, which Democrats are demanding. As a result, talks are centered on reducing spending by $2 trillion to $3 trillion. The debt ceiling is now at $14.3 trillion.
Cain was in Davenport as a guest speaker at the Scott County Republican Women's luncheon at Thunder Bay Grille.
He drew a sizeable crowd, and a handful of people said later they were impressed by his common touch.
"He makes sense," said Bill Edmond, a Davenport alderman and Republican activist. "We need more people who practice common sense" in Washington, D.C.
Cain said he would take federal Medicaid and education funds and send them to the states to give states more flexibility.
He also said he would cut corporate and payroll taxes and eliminate taxes on corporate profits now being held overseas in an effort to promote the economy.
Cain's stop in the Quad-Cities was one of two for the day. He also was going to Urbandale to open his state campaign headquarters.
He also took questions from the group Monday.
In answer to one man's complaint about how some people - "idiots," he called them - aren't educated about basic civics and how the government works, Cain drew laughs when he said the first step was to "save the saveable."
"I believe that what this gentleman is referring to represents what I call the clueless 50 percent," Cain said. "Unfortunately, a lot of them vote. That's the problem."
Cain said that could be combatted by conservatives turning out to vote next year - as some did not for John McCain in 2008 - and that the "pendulum has already started to shift" to draw independents and moderates away from Obama toward a better alternative.
"Things are beginning to shake out," he said. "I happen to believe we have the ability to get the right votes in the right places."
Read more: http://www.qctimes.com/news/local/government-and-politics/fc2ee288-abf4-11e0-a3d1-001cc4c03286.html#ixzz1bXyoNy97
If the children weren't born here, they're illegals, too. The children of illegals can be illegals. Perry is treating them as citizens -- that's why many people are upset.
How can you not understand that?
bump.
Your Religious bigotry is quite offensive. Perry approved a noted anti-Catholic bigot, who he was quite familiar with, to introduce him at a political convention. To your way of thinking, no Catholic should even consider voting for Perry.
He doesn't have to worry, he'll never have to go there.
You said La Raza Rick wasn't for amnesty and that Romney was the only one saying it. You do remember that, don't you normy?
I proved you lied and that's all you've got?!
You're disappointing me normy. I thought you were better than that. Not sure why but I did.
Cain has said he is for the LEGAL path to citizenship that already exists. La Raza Rick Perry (in his own words, now...not Romney's) has said 'on the record' that he is for a path to citizenship" for the ILLEGALS who are already here.
It is incredibly weak for you to make suppositions about Cain and his church and irrelevant references to others who aren't even presidential candidates. I guess trying to defend the indefensible is turning out to be harder than you thought, eh? :-)
I hadn’t seen this. He’s spoked about the restructuring of whole departments along with entitlements but I hadn’t see a dollar figure before. I hope his campaign lasts long enough to see more specifics.
That’s what started this country wasn’t it. Then they made it reality. Aren't we glad that they didn't give in to the nay sayers either.
Yes! That’s the one I was looking for. Thank you!
People who live in states that currently DO have sales tax actually SAVE more money under Cain’s proposed plan than people living in states with no sales tax.
Cost to purchase a $100 item in a state with no State sales tax:
Current cost of item: $100.00
Under Cain’s proposed plan: $90.12
Savings: $9.88
Cost to purchase a $100 item in a state with 8% State sales tax:
Current cost of item: $108.00
Under Cain’s proposed plan: $96.73
Savings: $11.27
I proved that Perry is for amnesty and that Romney is not the only one saying it. Did you really fail to comprehend that, normy?
You should put you effort into something else. Cain's church is huge. You know it and you are scared.
You're lying again normy. I've never given Cain's church much thought and I've certainly never been scared by it.
If perry is for a path to citizenship like Palin then I will bet you Cain is too.
If?! You read the words from his own mouth. There is no "if". La Raza Rick said he is for a "path to citizenship". You can't deny that w/o looking like a fool and you surely can't negate it by bringing other people who aren't even running into the mix. You only make yourself look more foolish and desperate when you do.
The funny thing is he never has to answer it because you have emotionally invested your heart into him.
Emotionally? Really? Do you have any idea how insane you make yourself sound when you tell someone what they are feeling? No, I can see you don't. You have no idea how I feel "emotionally" and you just embarrass yourself when you say you do.
He is what you want him to be.
Of course he is. That is because we are both conservatives. And I would imagine La Raza Rick Perry is what you want him to be -- a pro-ILLEGAL alien, crony capitalist.
He spouts crazy themes and back tracks but you think it's ok cause it's “Herman”’.
Spouting crazy themes is what Perry does when he tries and fails to defend his pro-ILLEGAL alien record; it's why he's dropped like a rock and his campaign is in the gutter. There's no selling his pro-ILLEGAL alien theme to real conservatives and he certainly isn't going to do so by calling us heartless.
You were one of those Palin people who thought she would save us and now it's Cain who will save us.
You're telling lies again normy. I would ask you to provide a single post or quote of mine wherein I have ever supported Palin for POTUS but it would be an exercise in futility as I know it doesn't exist. I liked her right up until she endorsed Juan McStain for reelection, but I never supported her for POTUS. So once again you've made a fool of yourself by making statements you cannot support.
>I>See you at the finish line as you steam in your impotent rage.
Impotent? Impotent is making claims that Perry is not for amnesty only to have his own words thrown in your face. Impotent is trying in vain to defend the indefensible by dragging non-candidates into the debate. Impotent is making wild-eyed assumptions about a candidate and what you 'think' he might do regarding immigration because he goes to a particular church. Impotent is denying all the facts that have been laid before you while foolishly sticking to your weak and failed argument even though you know you've had your butt handed to you.
Like I said, defending the indefensible has turned out to be a harder task than you thought it would, eh normy?
Have a good day.
Not really. Obama increased spending, that’s for sure, but Bush signed the continuing resolution to March of 2009 and TARP which caused most of the spending increase. TARP was $184B and ARRA was $155B in 2010. The big change in 2009 was the loss of revenue that came with the stock market crash, $581B.
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/121xx/doc12187/ChangesBaselineProjections.pdf
No, because I read his website. Here's the Link. If you can point out to me where it says that used goods won't be taxed and those living at the poverty level or below won't pay income tax or that companies outside of the Opportunity Zones will be able to continue to use labor costs as an expense then you will have made your point. Have at it.
None of thatmatters
The congress will thrash it all out
What matters is Cain will provide leadership for abolition of the current debacle
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