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Cain clarifies again: Abortion shouldn’t be legal, but some families might decide to break the law
HotAir ^ | Saturday October 21, 2011

Posted on 10/22/2011 5:50:47 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

Full Title: Cain clarifies again: Abortion shouldn’t be legal, but some families might decide to break the law anyway.

A better answer than yesterday’s spin attempt but Mediaite is right that it still doesn’t jibe with what he said to Piers Morgan. Then:

No, it comes down to is, it’s not the government’s role — or anybody else’s role — to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you’re not talking about that big a number. So what I’m saying is, it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make. Not me as president. Not some politician. Not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn’t try to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive decision…

The government shouldn’t be trying to tell people everything to do, especially when it comes to a social decision that they need to make.

Now:

Look, abortion should not be legal. That is clear. But if that family makes the decision to break the law, that’s that family’s decision. That’s all I’m trying to say.

Big difference between (a) the government shouldn’t tell you what to do about “sensitive” social decisions and (b) the government should tell you what to do by criminalizing one of your options. In fact, per Heinze at the The Hill and Philip Klein at the Examiner, even in today’s answer there’s an element of choice insofar as Cain suggests that a pregnant woman might end up breaking the law to get an illegal abortion. That’s, er, true — some of them would end up doing that — but it’s an odd note for a man in his position to sound. Rarely do would-be presidents acknowledge lawbreaking as an option

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To: montag813
Santorum has no credibility whatsoever on social issues after backing radical pro-abortion Arlen Specter over pro-life Pat Toomey years ago.

Playing favorites? Cain voted for Obama - the worst of the worst - and has no credibility whatsoever!
21 posted on 10/22/2011 6:14:30 PM PDT by presently no screen name (NO OBAMITT in '12)
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To: MNJohnnie
It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn't have to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive issue."

Many don't like that Cain defers to the family to make the ultimate decision. I understand the angst of pro-lifers though - Cain should probably verbalize his hope or a plan to end Roe vs Wade.

23 posted on 10/22/2011 6:17:47 PM PDT by demkicker (My passion for freedom is stronger than that of Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.)
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To: presently no screen name

On what planet did you hear that ridiculous lie?


24 posted on 10/22/2011 6:18:09 PM PDT by RockinRight (My train of thought has derailed.)
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To: mkjessup
Herman Cain is one of the few (in fact the ONLY) candidate to speak out on this deplorable fact which has decimated the American black family ever since it was founded in 1921.

So now you know he speaks with fork tongue. He and his church voted for pro abortion Obama.
25 posted on 10/22/2011 6:18:12 PM PDT by presently no screen name (NO OBAMITT in '12)
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To: justsaynomore

African American Businessman Spends 1M to Urge Blacks to Vote Pro-Life (2006)
http://www.lifenews.com/2006/09/13/nat-2583/

Herman Cain Reaffirms Commitment to Pro-Life Principles
http://secure.campaigner.com/Campaigner/Public/t.show?LVMF—8Oz3-WCSgU7

Cain Picks Clarence Thomas as Model for Supreme Court Pick
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/232604/20111017/herman-cain-clarence-thomas-supreme-court.htm

2004 - Herman Cain blasts Roe v. Wade (Free Republic - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/1063707/posts

And Alveda King affirmed on Facebook that she knew and worked with Cain on Pro-life issues over the years and testifies that he is Prolife

Herman Cain: Defund Racist Planned Parenthood Abortion Biz
http://www.lifenews.com/2011/01/18/herman-cain-defund-racist-planned-parenthood-abortion-biz/

Herman Cain: Planned Parenthood Should Be Called ‘Planned Genocide’
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/herman-cain-planned-parenthood-should-be-called-planned-genocide.php

Herman Cain was endorsed by the Georgia Right-To-Life PAC in the 2004 US Senate GOP primary. Cain’s primary challenger from 2004, Johnny Isakson, had a pro-choice streak in his voting record and it was the reason why GRTL endorsed him.

Life, liberty & pursuit of happiness starts with unborn life
The Founding Fathers got it right. The Founding Fathers got it right because of those fundamental principles: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. They also got it in the right order. That wasn’t an accident. Their vision meant that you could pursue happiness in America as long as you don’t infringe upon the liberties of somebody else. And you can pursue all the liberties that you want as long as you don’t infringe upon the life of anybody else. And that starts with the life of the unborn.
Source: , May 1, 2011

Defund Planned Parenthood; intent was to kill black babies
I absolutely would defund Planned Parenthood—not because I don’t believe in planning parenthood, [but because] Planned Parenthood as an organization is an absolute farce on the American people.

People who know the history of Margaret Sanger, who started Planned Parenthood, they know that the intention was not to help young women who get pregnant to plan their parenthood. No—it was a sham to be able to kill black babies.
Source: Interview on the Bryan Fischer radio show , Jan 18, 2011

Life begins at conception, period
I believe that life begins at conception, period. And that means that I will have to see enough evidence that someone I would appoint shares that same view. I believe that the current Supreme Court is leaning too much to the liberal side.

I’m a Christian, I’ve been a Christian all my life. I’ve been a believer in the Bible since I was 10 years old. I’m very active in my church, and there is no way I would compromise my religious beliefs about the sanctity of life. And so it starts with, will they have demonstrated, in some of their other rulings, if they come from the federal judge bench, whether or not they also share that.

Because I believe that the principles that our Founding Fathers cherished, when they founded this country, and wrote the Declaration of Independence which inspired the Constitution, they were based upon biblical principles. I want to get back to those principles as president, if I run and get elected—not rewrite those documents.

ontheissues.org


26 posted on 10/22/2011 6:18:36 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: RockinRight

Same planet you are on. So why didn’t you hear it? Don’t you vet your candidate?


27 posted on 10/22/2011 6:20:00 PM PDT by presently no screen name (NO OBAMITT in '12)
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To: All

Is pro-choice/pro-life the number one issue in the 2012 presidential election? Nope. It’s the economy, stupid.

Allahpundit wanted Cain’s to fall so bad, but Cain continues to do well in all the polls. Must drive Allahpundit nuts.


28 posted on 10/22/2011 6:20:17 PM PDT by imchris
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To: Netizen

What surprises ME is how many times the perry crew has posted this rotgut on this forum.


29 posted on 10/22/2011 6:21:38 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: presently no screen name

I’ve never heard that Cain voted for Obama, please post proof or retract.


30 posted on 10/22/2011 6:24:22 PM PDT by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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To: MestaMachine

On facebook, people are saying Rick Perry just slammed Cain on this issue in the Faith/Freedom forum


31 posted on 10/22/2011 6:24:37 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m thinking that ‘Palinized’ will become part of the lexicon meaning the politics of personal destruction. This is malicious and obscene.


32 posted on 10/22/2011 6:25:08 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: presently no screen name
"Cain voted for Obama - the worst of the worst - and has no credibility whatsoever!"

WHAT?? What is your source for this? I've never heard it.

IF true, it completely disqualifies him in my view. This wouldn't be Perry supporting Algore decades ago or Newt supporting Nelson Rockefeller in 1968 - this would be a man in his 60's supporting someone who was quite apparently - to anyone who cared to learn - a radical leftist!

Source?

Hank

34 posted on 10/22/2011 6:27:45 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: justsaynomore

One thing I’d like to hear Cain say is that he’ll appoint a home school proponent as secretary of education.

He wouldn’t take the job but naming Glenn Beck would make a million heads explode all at once. LOL


35 posted on 10/22/2011 6:27:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: ConservativeTeen

You want proof - search yourself. I don’t retract or apologize for truth. So you are supporting a man you know nothing about? How liberal of you.


36 posted on 10/22/2011 6:28:33 PM PDT by presently no screen name (NO OBAMITT in '12)
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To: presently no screen name

The only “source” I see, besides you, is by a poster from the site “ronpaulforums.com.” If you have a better source, please post, you made the assertion that Cain voted for Obama, now prove it.


37 posted on 10/22/2011 6:31:05 PM PDT by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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To: MNJohnnie

Unfortunately he is far from clear. His clarifications are only more confusing. Either it is a personal choice of that family and mother, as he says, which is the pro-abort line or it should be illegal which is the prolife stance.


38 posted on 10/22/2011 6:31:15 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Baynative

I have a sincere question.

I have read a couple of times today that a Constitutional Amendment would be required to overturn RvW.

Why would that be?

Could another Supreme Court decision, overturning RvW, not have the same affect?

And if a constitutional amendment is required to overthrow “the law of the land”...we maybe sc***ed with Obamacare.


39 posted on 10/22/2011 6:31:30 PM PDT by berdie
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To: eens
But I said it should be illegal. I'm absolutely opposed to lynching blacks. But the government can't make that decision for the klan lodge. (Sarcasm off) Bottom line is, you and Cain don't believe abortion is first degree murder. It is, and it should be dealt with accordingly.

Geezus, a twofer. You go for the trifecta now.

40 posted on 10/22/2011 6:32:30 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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