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Federal judge blocks Florida’s new law requiring that welfare applicants pass drug test
The Washington Post ^ | 10/24/2011 | AP

Posted on 10/24/2011 3:17:23 PM PDT by Carbonsteel

ORLANDO, Fla. — A federal judge temporarily blocked Florida’s new law that requires welfare applicants to pass a drug test before receiving the benefits on Monday, saying it may violate the Constitution’s ban on unreasonable searches and seizures.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush43appointee; welfare; wod; wodlist
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Of course it was blocked.

Can't let something like being a crack head from getting in the way of getting taxpayer dollars.

1 posted on 10/24/2011 3:17:29 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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he can’t pass a pre-employment drug test. He also would likely qualify as disabled.

Yes people. it’s come to this.

As others have said CW 2 is coming. It’ll be short. We will win.


2 posted on 10/24/2011 3:18:47 PM PDT by cableguymn
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In locale after locale, common sense laws are being passed and then being overturned or blocked by the effing federal judiciary. Time for the states to tell district court judges to shove it. Past time for congress to start impeachment proceedings against these usurping black robed swine.


3 posted on 10/24/2011 3:20:52 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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The problem is too much welfare; not too few restrictions on welfare recipients. I think the decision was a good one. As with all federal government regulations, this one opened the door to even more intrusiveness against all citizens.

We must work to reduce welfare in this country -- not just accept it and try to make the recipients' lives miserable to compensate.

4 posted on 10/24/2011 3:21:56 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: Carbonsteel
Judges think they are legislators...if they want to make law, get off the bench and run for congress.. or .. get impeached..
5 posted on 10/24/2011 3:22:21 PM PDT by goat granny
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Yeah, well my side thought it’d be short at the last rodeo. Depends on who is on who’s side.


6 posted on 10/24/2011 3:23:14 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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there is no search or siezure...

if you want the money, submit to drug testing

if I have to submit to testing to EARN the money, the least they can do is the same when TAKING the money


7 posted on 10/24/2011 3:23:39 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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there is no search or siezure...

if you want the money, submit to drug testing

if I have to submit to testing to EARN the money, the least they can do is the same when TAKING the money


8 posted on 10/24/2011 3:24:47 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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I disagree. Volunteering to go collect my money means you have to follow my rules. Don’t like it, leave my money on the table and get a job.


9 posted on 10/24/2011 3:25:01 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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Sadly, it seems “activist jurisprudence” would hold that the public has a “duty” to subsidize receipients’ drug habits ! >PS


10 posted on 10/24/2011 3:25:00 PM PDT by PiperShade
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To: Carbonsteel

there is no search or siezure...

if you want the money, submit to drug testing

if I have to submit to testing to EARN the money, the least they can do is the same when TAKING the money


11 posted on 10/24/2011 3:25:20 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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“We must work to reduce welfare in this country — not just accept it and try to make the recipients’ lives miserable to compensate.”

????? Let the worthless slug take all the dope he wants. Just not on MY nickel!!!!


12 posted on 10/24/2011 3:26:29 PM PDT by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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Answer? Stop all welfare payments.


13 posted on 10/24/2011 3:28:26 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Answer? Stop all welfare payments.


14 posted on 10/24/2011 3:28:44 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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I swear, if I ever get another dog, my dream is to teach him/her to read, then give him/her a list of Federal judges to bite.


15 posted on 10/24/2011 3:29:08 PM PDT by Marathoner (Occupy Wall Street = Parasites on Parade)
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Would you consider this similar to DUI checkpoints in being forced to submit to a test where no probable cause exists?


16 posted on 10/24/2011 3:33:10 PM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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Interesting, so a judge considers drug testing for welfare to be a case of illegal search and seizure.

Would the judge be so kind to rule on the TSA who won’t let people get on a privately owned aircraft with drugs. The TSA assumes I am a criminal, then denies me my 2nd Amendment Rights by violating my 4th and 5th. If I were to fly from Dallas to Houston, TSA would still want to do a search without Probable Cause and without a warrant, a clear violation of the 10th and 14th Amendments.

My Rights to engage in contracts with a private company is routinely violated by the FedGov while there is yet no claim in the Constitution where a drug addict has free access to my wallet.


17 posted on 10/24/2011 3:34:25 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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“A federal judge temporarily blocked Florida’s new law that requires welfare applicants to pass a drug test before receiving the benefits on Monday, saying it may violate the Constitution’s ban on unreasonable searches and seizures.”

You are getting money from taxpayers for NOTHING, and we cant demand that you be clean before you do?!?!?!

%#%^#&*@ trailer trash judge!


18 posted on 10/24/2011 3:35:43 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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I think the testing was a good idea. I believe that initially, the testing cost ... but the study said that it cost less than the money saved to the recipients. They didn’t have any way to measure how many people just didn’t apply BECAUSE of the testing requirement and there were some that, for some reason, hadn’t been measured.

When a recipient takes the dollars and has a drug habit, it has a ripple effect. They aren’t responsible with the money. Their kids are usually running around being “raised” by the community. If they get foodstamps, they are also selling them for drugs...and hitting up food pantries, emptying THOSE out.

And you are enabling all of that.

Maybe there should be a compassion clause, though, where if someone needs the help and has an addiction...they can claim it and comply with treatment.


19 posted on 10/24/2011 3:36:11 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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“In locale after locale, common sense laws are being passed and then being overturned or blocked by the effing federal judiciary. Time for the states to tell district court judges to shove it. Past time for congress to start impeachment proceedings against these usurping black robed swine.”

It is time for the states to call a Constitutional convention to add amendments limiting the power of the federal judiciary and the federal bureaucracy over the states. In addition there should be no laws passed by Congress requiring states to tax its citizens to support or supplement federal programs.


20 posted on 10/24/2011 3:36:44 PM PDT by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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