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No Royal Navy warships left to guard Britain
The News, UK ^ | 1 November 2011 | Michael Powell

Posted on 11/01/2011 7:49:53 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

No Royal Navy warships left to guard Britain

DEFENCE HMS Portland was the last ship to be guarding British waters

By Michael Powell

Published on Tuesday 1 November 2011 15:30

DEFENCE cuts and the war in Libya have left the Royal Navy without a ship on emergency stand-by in British waters for the past four weeks, The News can reveal.

A frigate or destroyer is usually tasked to be in the UK at high readiness to respond to an emergency at home or abroad at a moment’s notice.

But the slashed navy has become so stretched that admirals have been left without a ship ready enough to fulfil the Fleet Ready Escort (FRE) role since the start of October. The last ship in the key role was HMS Portland, which left the position to take part in a fortnight of war games off the coast of Scotland on October 3 and is now having a rest period in Plymouth.

The navy sought to play down the gap, with a spokesman calling the FRE role a ‘luxury’.

But former First Sea Lord, Admiral Lord Alan West, said: ‘I would hardly say it is a luxury. If there was a terrorism incident in UK waters, this would historically be the ship sent in to deal with it.

‘It’s a big problem. If we haven’t got a ship ready to do this role then it’s worrying. It’s a very unsatisfactory position to be in.’

The shortage comes after the government cut the navy’s surface fleet to 19 frigates and destroyers in last year’s defence review.

Critics warned the cuts would leave the navy overstretched. Having had 10 frigates and destroyers deployed to Libya since February, there are now none left to be the FRE.

The MoD would not confirm the last time Britain did not have an FRE, but it is believed that was probably in 1982 after every available ship left for the Falklands War.

Lord West said: ‘What it shows is that the number of frigates and destroyers we’ve got now is insufficient. We need more ships as a matter of urgency.’

The navy denied British waters were unprotected and said ‘other assets’ were available. But it is understood these ships would take longer than an FRE to respond in an emergency because they are either undergoing maintenance, on sea trials preparing for operations, or are in a rest period having recently returned from sea.

The navy confirmed the lack of an FRE comes as a direct result of Britain’s role in Nato’s Libya operations, which officially ended at 9.59pm last night.

A spokesman said: ‘Due to the successful deployment of Royal Navy units to the Libya campaign, it has been necessary to reprofile the commitments of some ships.

‘Should a Fleet Ready Escort activation be required, a Royal Navy ship would be allocated.’

Asked why there has not been an FRE since HMS Portland, the navy spokesman said: ‘We do not need one currently. We’ve got ships off Libya and they are returning now. That’s the situation. We’ve had to look after our priorities and be flexible. We are doing the best with what we have got.’

First Sea Lord warned war would stretch navy

THE First Sea Lord, Admiral Sir Mark Stanhope was given a dressing-down by Prime Minister David Cameron in June when he warned the Royal Navy would become stretched if operations in Libya went on beyond September.

Now it appears Sir Mark’s controversial comments were an accurate appraisal of the state of the navy.

The deployment of 10 warships to Libya since February has left the service without a single ship in home waters at the level of high readiness required to be designated as the Fleet Ready Escort .

The FRE role demands a frigate or destroyer to be on a war footing to go anywhere she is needed in an emergency situation, whether it is in home waters or abroad.

The navy says it has to be flexible in these times of austerity and the role could be filled at short notice.

But military experts have expressed fears the navy fleet has shrunk to unsustainable levels and today’s revelation that Britain has not had an FRE since the start of October is likely to reignite a debate that has dogged the government ever since it cut 10 navy ships in last year’s Strategic Defence and Security Review to plug a £38bn black hole in the MoD’s budget.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: greatbritain; royalnavy; uk; warship
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1 posted on 11/01/2011 7:50:03 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

At the moment, I don’t think their biggest threat is coming by sea.


2 posted on 11/01/2011 7:53:32 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Perhaps not, but this is so terribly sad.


3 posted on 11/01/2011 7:55:29 AM PDT by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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To: Rannug
True enough.

Great tagline, btw.

4 posted on 11/01/2011 7:56:59 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Our navy deals with all kinds of non-naval situations, natural disasters, places near the coast where emergency water and power are required, etc.

I'm surprised there has only been one RN vessel filling this roll up until now.

6 posted on 11/01/2011 7:58:03 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: sukhoi-30mki; archy

Formerly Great Britain. How sad.

Their present, America’s future, as we transform into welfare entitlement states.


7 posted on 11/01/2011 7:58:15 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Not to worry. We shall have “peace in our time.”


8 posted on 11/01/2011 7:59:49 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: sukhoi-30mki
"HMS Victory" still floats. Could be a temporary solution.

Alas, I fear that "The Immortal Memory" is now just that...

9 posted on 11/01/2011 8:00:54 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Rule, Britannia! Britannia, rule the waves!
Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.

When Britain first, at heaven's command,
Arose from out the azure main,
This was the charter of the land,
And Guardian Angels sang this strain:

(Chorus)

The nations not so blest as thee
Must, in their turn, to tyrants fall,
While thou shalt flourish great and free:
The dread and envy of them all.


Ahem...well, those days are long gone, eh?
10 posted on 11/01/2011 8:01:46 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: ken5050

hms victory is no longer afloat.

so when will the argentinians take the falklands since the brits can’t do anything and president dumbo supports the argentinians?


11 posted on 11/01/2011 8:04:14 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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Is it in a drydock?..for some reason, I thought it was permanently moored alongside, like The USS Constitution..


12 posted on 11/01/2011 8:06:46 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

...but we’re equipping Radio Caroline with a couple of pepper-spray canons, so all is well


13 posted on 11/01/2011 8:09:20 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Now that the Royal Navy has been slashed to ribbons, time to start slashing the number of admirals, unless the 'conservative' (har-har, snicker, snort) government of David Cameron decides to rebuild the fleet.
14 posted on 11/01/2011 8:10:20 AM PDT by mkjessup (I stand with Herman Cain, a God-fearing, Jesus-loving, Constitution-honoring PATRIOT.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Does this mean that moslem pirates will again start raiding England?

Oh wait! They are already inside the walls!


15 posted on 11/01/2011 8:14:17 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Bet those Spanish are wishing they could get their armada together right about now....


16 posted on 11/01/2011 8:16:00 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The Royal Navy has been reduced to a very small husk of its former self.

The new Tyrpe 45 destroyers are nice...but they are building ony 6 of them total and they are lacking several critical combat systems to allow them to fulfill their multi-role requirements. Great AAW, but lacking in ASW and anti-surface.

The two new carriers are going to be great...but they have already retired all of their HArriers, and they may well not have any JSF ready when the carriers come out so may be reduced to being helo carriers until they can embark an airwing.

They are showing the path we will tread if we do not get the spending (particularly social spending and foreign aid) under control and balance our budget so we can maintain adequate defense posture.


17 posted on 11/01/2011 8:21:24 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: ken5050

HMS Victory is permanently in drydock and does not float under its own power. USS Constitution is not “permanently moored” and does a sail in Boston Harbor every year, with US Navy sailors and officers and US Marines aboard.

The Victory is the oldest commissioned warship, but the Constitution is the oldest “operational” warship.


18 posted on 11/01/2011 8:26:41 AM PDT by Sigurdrifta
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To: Jeff Head

The navy of the Japanese Defense Force now has more ships than the Royal Navy.


19 posted on 11/01/2011 8:28:35 AM PDT by Sigurdrifta
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The RPM rate in Lord Nelson’s casket is so high, it is cavitating


20 posted on 11/01/2011 8:35:11 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (So much stress was put on Bush's Fault that it finally let go, magnitude 6)
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