Posted on 11/02/2011 9:26:01 AM PDT by Kevmo
Andrea Rossi May Sell eCat Shares
admin on November 2, 2011 — 5 Comments
Andrea Rossi has always indicated that he would only use his own money until he was selling eCat products on the open market. It should be no surprise then that the possibility of opening up investment opportunities to the public looms now that the 1MW plant has shipped. Of course, without knowledge of the customer’s identity or verifiable scientific proof, any such venture at this time would be high risk. If you assume for now that the eCat is real, AR has money coming in the door (probably around 2m Euro a pop) and so some of the immediate financial pressure is relieved. Even so, the scale of his task is enormous. This would just be the start and we are told that it will be three months before the next delivery. Therefore, it is unlikely that he will be flush with cash for some time at least. It makes sense then, to consider raising money through the issue of public shares.
A serious businessman with a real product would not attempt to do so in the midst of uncertainty regarding the product. Doubt and suspicion will lower the value of such shares. For that reason, I would only expect such a move after the clouds obscuring the eCat have been lifted. As Dr Rossi hints on his blog, we may be seeing the seeds of exactly that.
Simon Basovich
November 1st, 2011 at 9:12 PM
Dear Mr. Andrea Rossi,
Congratulations on your outstanding success! Please, inform me how I could buy the shares of your company. I have many inventions, mostly related to biomedicine, and I have ideas how to increase mental capability, how to primary prevent mental diseases, how to get people healthy from the beginning of the life and some others. A lot of money is needed for realization, and in an attempt to promote it (partly, of course), I hope to buy the shares of your company.
Many thanks.
Best regards,
Simon Basovich,
Australia
Andrea Rossi
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:45 AM
Dear Simon Basovich: OK, Warm Regards, A.R.
Andrea Rossi
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:35 AM
Dear Francesco D.M.: We are just producing heat, so far. Probably we will sell shares to allow everybody to participate to this enterprise. But before this we have to consolidate our manufacturing and commercial system. Warm Regards, A.R.
I postulated in an earlier post that there were now so many people involved in AR’s project across too many organisations, that it would become increasingly difficult to keep secrets such as: Who is the customer? It seems that Dr Rossi agrees.
Andrea Rossi
November 2nd, 2011 at 4:40 AM
Dear Neil Ferguson: The names of Customers unavoidably will pop up, before or later. I agree with you. Warm Regards, A.R.
Andrea Rossi
October 31st, 2011 at 9:23 AM
Dear Luca Salvarani: 1- yes 2- more 3- I want not our Customers assailed by the puppetts moved by their puppetteers. Let the plant go to work, then they will reveal themselves automatically. Probably you did not understand that there is a war against us. Warm Regards, A.R
Finally, we have AR reiterate his hope/plan for the coming years.
Andrea Rossi
November 2nd, 2011 at 5:55 AM
Dear Paul Calvo: The price can drop to 500 $/kW if we will have to produce millions of pieces. Warm Regards, A.R.
Andrea Rossi
November 1st, 2011 at 2:01 PM
Dear Paolo: To be ready to sell household E-Cats we need from 1 to 2 years. Warm Regards, A.R.
We are not looking at a hit-and-run con-job but a long-term strategy that is cohesive and well thought out. To achieve the scale needed to produce millions of pieces will require money and confidence in the product. Right now, he is building that confidence even as the eCat starts to earn its keep. He knows that eventually we will learn who the customers are and it seems obvious to me that such knowledge would dispel many fears. All of this is being played out in a sea of commercial warfare, even if the battle is obscured for now.
Robert Mockan
October 31st, 2011 at 5:30 PM
Dear Mr. Rossi,
You have commented there “is a war” against you (your organization? your efforts to market the E-Cat?). Do you expect the successful sale of the megawatt demo module to stop the war, or is it going to get bigger?
Andrea Rossi
October 31st, 2011 at 5:45 PM
Dear Robert Mockan: Bigger. Warm Regards, A.R.
Thus, it makes sense to retain a certain mystique, making it difficult for competitors to gauge the truth or guess the technological details behind the eCat’s apparent success. To attract the money required, he has to own and protect the intellectual property:
Andrea Rossi
November 1st, 2011 at 3:29 AM
Dear lenr4you: Nobody would invest anything in a non proprietary technology. Warm Regards, A.R.
And yet, to sell the product and shares widely he has to take the risk of building confidence, of attracting an army of opponents alongside allies. It is a tough path to walk. Those who say he should have simply proven beyond doubt a year ago that the eCat was genuine do not consider that without handing it over to third parties for many months (with all the risks that entails) during which time he is in limbo, there is no test he could have done that would have satisfied the attackers. Indeed, I am certain that even that would have achieved little apart from arming his competitors. Instead, he is now bringing in money as interest is growing. He has kept ahead of everyone else by being shrewd as well as clever.
That said, he also knows that he cannot keep such a delicate balance going forever. A conman would want to sell you shares now while you are confused, an entrepreneur knows he will get more on delivering proof. To me, this all adds up. When we will know the truth is anyone’s guess.
I’m frightened to say it but I’ll guess anyway. Soon.
.
Rossi.
What is actually written:
In a scientific sense, it is easy to pick holes in what we have been presented and I would understand any scientist reserving judgement. However, I really do not understand the mean spirit of certain individuals when expressing that doubt. You come away after reading some of that stuff as though something foul has touched your thoughts.
He’s talking about guys like you.
The "Abuse" button is right where it's always been. Press it and let the mods decide. Otherwise clam up.
Swamp Sniper takes better pictures.
And we are talking about him and he doesn't like it. Poor Rossi. Three-time fraud and believes there is a conspiracy out to discredit this one.
I copied and pasted directly the entire sentence. I resent your implication that I misquoted him.
You resent the implication? Then let me be direct: you misquoted him.
Quoting someone out of context is misquoting him.
Otherwise, you could just take this sentence and repost it to convince everyone here that I think you’re a swell guy.
hmmm. Please show how I misquoted him and took the sentence out of context inorder pre misrepresent what he said.
And we are talking about him and he doesn’t like it. Poor Rossi.
***I have noticed in prior correspondence with you that you have selective reading comprehension. In this case the author of the article was talking about guys like you, not about Rossi, nor is it Rossi who is saying it , nor is it Rossi saying he does not like it.
I think I’ll give up on you early in this thread. You’re not worth the keystrokes and pulled posts.
Looks like I gave up on you at the right time.
T4BTT
According to your rules, you misquoted Jack.
If he was heating his factory with one of these things for two years, what happened to that one? Did the factory mysteriously burn down like last time for his last miracle, what happened to that E-cat? Oh, he sold that factory. No mention of that Ecat since.
Why do all of his companies use names similar to real companies that are actually in the same field?
I couldn't for the life of me figure out what the end game is though, he built something, then again, so did Dennis Lee and Joseph Newman and yet the production device is always just a little bit away from completion. Now, with this announcement, I see the end game, shares in E-Cat.
Do these E-cats come with the built in self destruct feature to protect the secret? No worries there if true, I'm sure that's safe as well.
He kept the Petrol Dragon scam going for a while as well and made money, produced nothing yet the mess was left to the Italian taxpayer.
This time we know we can trust him because after all, he's going to put his profits into cancer research for children.
Kevmo, let's make this sporting:
I propose we put a little one to one wager on this. The wager is this:
It's 1:1, loser pays in winner's name, a $100 donation to Freerepublic.
Now, I don't expect Kevmo to shoulder other Rossi bets, it would not be 1:1 for him anymore so for the believers as well as the skeptics, I'm sure we can get a little Freep-a-thon action going and keep in mind, I never, ever, bet.
Winning this bet will bring neither of us any money but it will bring satisfaction and if I lose a bet where the whole world wins and not just the house, I can live with that.
The complication is I need some input on what constitutes winning and losing, within a time frame?
Is this Dr Rossi related to Andrea Rossi?
“Otherwise clam up.”
Really? You think that’s how it works? Silly kid.
Bummer that I gave up on you, huh? Not worth the keystrokes, you know the rest.
T4BTT
He said that 'us guys' smelled something foul. I clarified that the foul we smelled was Rossi.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2800058/posts?page=55#55
To: Moonman62
It appears that a relatively innocuous post responding to you was pulled.
This means I have nothing more to say to you about LENR. Bye.
55 posted on Sunday, October 30, 2011 4:41:07 PM by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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“As Dr Rossi hints on his blog, we may be seeing the seeds of exactly that.”
We know that Rossi has a fake diploma from some diploma mill that was shutdown for giving out fake diplomas but I haven’t heard from where he got his PhD?
Giving up on you, not worth the keystrokes, you know the rest.
T4BTT
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