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Developer with shotgun scared off Oakland rioters
sfgate.com ^ | 11/3/11 | Henry K. Lee

Posted on 11/03/2011 3:05:38 PM PDT by GSWarrior

Oakland developer Phil Tagami is used to working behind the scenes to broker some of the biggest deals in town. Late Wednesday, he was using different persuasive skills - holding a loaded shotgun to scare away rioters trying to get into a downtown building.

"We had people who were attempted to break into our building," the landmark Rotunda Building on Frank Ogawa Plaza outside City Hall, Tagami said today. He grabbed a shotgun that he usually keeps at home, went down to the ground floor and "discouraged them," he said.

No police were in sight, he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; oakland; occupy; occupyoakland; occupywallstreet; ows; secondamendment
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1 posted on 11/03/2011 3:05:43 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: GSWarrior

It started.


2 posted on 11/03/2011 3:08:19 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: GSWarrior

Time to dust off the ole gatling guns I guess.


3 posted on 11/03/2011 3:08:32 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: GSWarrior

I’m surprised one of the ‘leaders’ of the OWS gang didn’t egg on some of their useful idiots to enter the building. They’re dying to get some martyrs (as long as its someone else) for their cause...


4 posted on 11/03/2011 3:08:32 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: GSWarrior

Think about it, the cops are own their own trying to keep civility.

The Mayor is tweeting the rioters, then they give teachers etc. the day off to shut down the Oakland Port. I haven’t heard did the LONGSHOREMAN join the shut down? I guess the police union knows who their real friends are now.

At least this guy had enough sense to realize the danger and do something about it.


5 posted on 11/03/2011 3:10:01 PM PDT by marty60
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To: El Cid
You knew California would be first.

If I owned buildings in New York City, I think I would pay the Mafia to protect my buildings.

6 posted on 11/03/2011 3:10:38 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: GSWarrior

The Mayor will want that man lynched, the mayor totally supports OWS tearing down his city.


7 posted on 11/03/2011 3:14:39 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: marty60
Think about it, the cops are own their own trying to keep civility.

True, the mayor has already made it clear that police are on their own and won't have the backing of city government.
8 posted on 11/03/2011 3:19:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: GSWarrior

The so-called “occupy” movement is a combination of two things - it is a demonstration of our dumbed down education system and Obama’s “community organizing” skills.

The occupiers are not sophisticated enough to put a nationwide “movement” together and they are clealy being orchestrated by government higher ups. And, when we hear the idiotic utterances that come from them, it is undeniable proof that the American education system is a complete and abject failure on all counts. The occupiers are so clueless, they aren’t smart enough to even know how to BUY a clue!!

We got work to do, folks - lots and LOTS of work!!!


9 posted on 11/03/2011 3:20:08 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: DustyMoment

Good for this guy!


10 posted on 11/03/2011 3:20:55 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: El Cid
yup, it's called the Bravery of Being Out of Range...
11 posted on 11/03/2011 3:21:01 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: GSWarrior

Too bad he didn’t “discourage” the protesters with a few rounds.


12 posted on 11/03/2011 3:21:44 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: GeronL

“The Mayor will want that man lynched, the mayor totally supports OWS tearing down his city.”

I don’t think there is any doubt they will attempt to prosecute him for something.


13 posted on 11/03/2011 3:23:31 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: DustyMoment

The OWS is the same cast of characters we all know and love—ANSWER, MoveOn, etc,—just under a new banner.


14 posted on 11/03/2011 3:24:47 PM PDT by GSWarrior (Click HERE to read the entire post.)
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To: El Cid

I’m surprised one of the ‘leaders’ of the OWS gang didn’t egg on some of their useful idiots to enter the building. They’re dying to get some martyrs (as long as its someone else) for their cause...

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

You know the OWS captains in the various city talk to each other, and they are sure to talk about this and trade notes. This happened, that works, this doesn’t, etc.

OWS is an attempted revolution given the chance, and yes, absolutely, they are most definitely looking for martyrs. They are going to probe this Tagami guy, and get him to make a mistake. Cat and mouse.


15 posted on 11/03/2011 3:26:02 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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To: scooby321
I feel sick to my stomach saying this, but I think they did deliver on actually protecting the neighborhoods where they collected “protection money”. Business went down from crime, their own pockets took hits.

Not to say they are completely reliable, imagine if they thought it was too their advantage the unions they are in with protest and riot. They will sell you out in a second if their is a conflict of interest

16 posted on 11/03/2011 3:27:14 PM PDT by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: cripplecreek
Remember when the Black Panthers were trying to KILL Oakland police. Talk about Dejavu.
17 posted on 11/03/2011 3:28:00 PM PDT by marty60
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To: El Cid
They’re dying to get some martyrs (as long as its someone else) for their cause...

I knew it, a bunch of wussies (and for w, read...)

18 posted on 11/03/2011 3:32:04 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: FlyingEagle

And the press is spinning it into a giant party,

http://news.yahoo.com/occupy-oakland-stealing-occupy-wall-streets-mojo-172604392.html

Summary, the fun and peaceful protest with prayer services was invaded by bad apples.

*sigh*


19 posted on 11/03/2011 3:32:20 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: scooby321

I was just thinking that the Mafia might just be seeing an upsurge in business if the cops get rolled by OWS.

They are crooks, but they aren’t Communists.


20 posted on 11/03/2011 3:34:56 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: nerdwithagun; scooby321

From stories we’ve heard from Tucson old-timers, it used to be safe here when the Mob was in charge (well, for ordinary people, I guess). Now, it’s like some 3rd world, people’s republic, police won’t even go into most neighborhoods — including ours — (a working class formerly decent one).


21 posted on 11/03/2011 3:36:41 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: marty60

About a year back, Glenn Beck was trying to get a response from police union officials about their union aligning themselves with people like Van Jones who happily supports cop killers.

Naturally the union wouldn’t respond but he did get a large number of letters from individual cops who are real concerned about it.


22 posted on 11/03/2011 3:38:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: VanDeKoik

Are the Hells Angels available?

Didn’t they do a bang-up job at some west coast rock concerts?


23 posted on 11/03/2011 3:40:19 PM PDT by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: GSWarrior

Calling all Hells Angels.


24 posted on 11/03/2011 3:41:31 PM PDT by freedomtrail (EEOC- Eventual Elimination Of Caucasians)
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To: FlyingEagle

Just a matter of time!


25 posted on 11/03/2011 3:42:33 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: VanDeKoik
They are crooks, but they aren’t Communists

Perhaps not in the days of La Cosa Nostra, but from what we've seen of these guys, they can be quite flexible, they will adapt to prevailing conditions.
Its not as if they have any particular moral conviction. (I know, I know: only indictments, no convictions)

26 posted on 11/03/2011 3:43:28 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: nascarnation

In the Hell’s Angels defense, they stabbed a guy trying to murder Mick Jagger. They maybe went overboard and made hamburger out of him, but the guy had a gun and was stopped pretty close to Mick. IMO, it isn’t about the Hell’s Angels. It is about right of lethal defense. They may have gone too far, but I’ll take that over Mick being shot and killed in cold blood


27 posted on 11/03/2011 3:45:05 PM PDT by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: El Cid
I guess they're not as committed to die for the cause as the islamofascists are. Pity.
28 posted on 11/03/2011 3:45:15 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: GSWarrior

Send in "Epic Beard Man"

29 posted on 11/03/2011 3:45:55 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: marty60
Remember when the Black Panthers were trying to KILL Oakland police.

If you go by the Occupy Oakland site, the first thing you will see are two large banners: Abolish Capital and Close All Prisons.

Paging Angela Davis....

30 posted on 11/03/2011 3:47:23 PM PDT by GSWarrior (Click HERE to read the entire post.)
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To: DustyMoment
they aren’t smart enough to even know how to BUY a clue!!

They aren't even smart enough to know they need one, or they'd be asking for free ones.

31 posted on 11/03/2011 3:49:27 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: nerdwithagun

Altamont—Where the ‘60s died.


32 posted on 11/03/2011 3:49:42 PM PDT by GSWarrior (Click HERE to read the entire post.)
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To: GeronL

I thought Oakland was already an urban hell hole.


33 posted on 11/03/2011 3:49:49 PM PDT by Dem Guard (Obama's 57 States = The Organization of The Islamic Conference (OIC).)
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To: DustyMoment

It appears “community organizing” = “fomenting and achieving revolution” a la 1917-21.

Many of the Occupiers throughout the nation do not realize they are being used as tools by anti-Americans who wish to dramtically transform (remake, not rebuild) our country.

As your comments re the education system suggest, how can we be surprised?

Are our RINO’s paying attention?


34 posted on 11/03/2011 3:50:23 PM PDT by frog in a pot (The IRS denies tax deductions to our domestic terrorists. Why the hell do we not just deport them ?)
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To: GSWarrior
Because of lack of cleaning out by police I fear guns will be coming out.
35 posted on 11/03/2011 3:52:59 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Logical me
Because of lack of cleaning out by police I fear guns will be coming out.

Isn't that what they're for?

36 posted on 11/03/2011 3:55:53 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: GSWarrior

While you’re wielding a loaded shotgun, seldom is heard a discouraging word.


37 posted on 11/03/2011 3:56:17 PM PDT by JPG (The loons at OWS will soon be at each others throats.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

We are attaining the “existential” level of so called “inevitable” frictions and conflict. Blood will be drawn and anger on both side is to ripple, bridges burned etc. The idiot psycho democrates will “use” (rather be used) to legitimize foreign thugs to rape it all.

If you do not have the arms nor the will to defend self/freedom, you invested without real responsible will, and folkes might as well forfeit.

Others feel shackled and will be given force to free themselves.

Capitalism may attract volatilizing exuberance and speculation, but at least it’s not volatile weathervane nonsense whim of lunatic ignorant commi protestors who destroy walstreet wokers to start wih.

Shades of FARC.


38 posted on 11/03/2011 3:59:26 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: GSWarrior

Good ole Angela (/s), is she still hanging out with that commie University Prof in SD. Or has she kicked the bucket?

Ofcourse they want the prisons closed, they think nothing of raping and destroying public and private property. These people are the dregs of society.


39 posted on 11/03/2011 4:00:20 PM PDT by marty60
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To: nerdwithagun
I’ll take that over Mick being shot

YOU KNOW HIM ON A FIRST NAME BASIS!?

40 posted on 11/03/2011 4:03:42 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: marty60

She was addressing the mob.


41 posted on 11/03/2011 4:05:40 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

ummmm...Mr. Jagger? XD


42 posted on 11/03/2011 4:06:05 PM PDT by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: GSWarrior

She was there speaking


43 posted on 11/03/2011 4:13:42 PM PDT by easternsky
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44 posted on 11/03/2011 4:13:42 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: El Cid

They want martyrs, yes, but they want the police to do the shooting, not a private citizen, even if he is a “one percenter”. Even the brainless left has enough sense to know that the public would sympathize with the property owner over the rioters, and they couldn’t use it to their advantage.


45 posted on 11/03/2011 4:20:36 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: cripplecreek

Yes I really feel for them. They know full well if ANYTHING happens. They may all end up in Prison.


46 posted on 11/03/2011 4:20:44 PM PDT by marty60
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To: tacticalogic
They aren't even smart enough to know they need one, or they'd be asking for free ones.

LOL!! Good point!

47 posted on 11/03/2011 4:21:34 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: RitchieAprile

The second sentence was referring to the OWS.


48 posted on 11/03/2011 4:23:11 PM PDT by marty60
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To: FlyingEagle
It started.

late in the 19th century.

49 posted on 11/03/2011 4:23:20 PM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: DustyMoment
The so-called “occupy” movement is a combination of two things - it is a demonstration of our dumbed down education system and Obama’s “community organizing” skills.

No. It is a socialist/marxist revolution financed by one of the richest men in the world.

50 posted on 11/03/2011 4:24:49 PM PDT by NewinTexsas
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