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Santorum promises to ban abortion, discharge gay soldiers and abolish the 9th circuit
Daily Caller ^ | November 4, 2011

Posted on 11/05/2011 11:36:00 AM PDT by NYer


Republican presidential candidate former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum speaks during a Republican presidential debate Tuesday, Oct. 18, 2011, in Las Vegas.

Republican presidential candidate and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum laid out an ambitious social policy agenda on Friday during the first in a series of three policy speeches he will deliver over the coming weeks.

The program Santorum outlined, the Des Moines Register reports, would include reinstating “don’t ask, don’t tell,” pursuing a constitutional ban on abortion, enforcing the Defense of Marriage Act and abolishing the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, which has traditionally been liberal-minded.

While other presidential candidates have mostly focused on economic policy, Santorum began the speech by focusing on social policy, describing the two as inextricably connected.

“The economy is inextricably linked to the moral fabric of this country,” Santorum proclaimed. “And we can’t have a real solution-based conversation about fixing the economic problems in this country without faith and family being a large part of that conversation.”

The family, he said, is a necessary building block for fiscal goals.

“You cannot have limited government if you have broken families because someone has to pick up the pieces, and the ones who pick up the pieces are the taxpayers,” Santorum said.

Santorum said that using the power of the executive branch, he would separate abortion and family planning and restore a ban on abortion referrals, as well as re-institute the “Mexico City Policy,” which prevents taxpayer funding or promotion of overseas abortions. (RELATED: Santorum aide: Cain should be more forthcoming on allegations)

He would also ban federal funding for embryonic stem cell research and would ask Congress to implement several laws to that effect. He additionally pledged to repeal the mandate included in Obama’s health care reform that provides contraceptive services, and promised to veto any bill providing funds to Planned Parenthood.

Santorum added that he would defend the Defense of Marriage Act from court challenges, ban same-sex marriages on military bases and demand that Congress restore the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.

Though his socially conservative message appeals to a significant number of Iowa caucus-goers, it hasn’t significantly aided his poll numbers. In a Des Moines Register poll of likely caucus participants released last weekend, Santorum was in sixth place with five percent support.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; gays; homosexualagenda; military; moralabsolutes; prolife; santorum
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1 posted on 11/05/2011 11:36:05 AM PDT by NYer
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah

Ping!


2 posted on 11/05/2011 11:36:38 AM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

“...ban abortion, discharge gay soldiers, and abolish the 9th circuit...”
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Which of these does the executive branch have the power to do?


3 posted on 11/05/2011 11:38:26 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: NYer

Wow!
That’s a good start.


4 posted on 11/05/2011 11:39:53 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Repeal The 17th
Which of these does the executive branch have the power to do?

All of them, by good appointments and leadership.

5 posted on 11/05/2011 11:41:15 AM PDT by Lancey Howard (Repeal the 19th)
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To: NYer

And if I am elected president I promise to put a chicken in every pot and a car in every garage.


6 posted on 11/05/2011 11:42:17 AM PDT by ProudFossil
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To: NYer

In the meantime, we’re slipping into economic totalitarianism and kids are being taught straight-up Marxism.

Santorum has a good message, but a bit tin-eared for our time.


7 posted on 11/05/2011 11:44:05 AM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: NYer
While he's focusing on the right things, The Constitution gives Congress the power to set up federal courts. I see a spot for Santorum in Keith Olbermann’s “Worst Persons in the World”.
8 posted on 11/05/2011 11:46:41 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Lancey Howard

santorum is dangerous.. if he can get rid of the 9th circuit would u be happy if obama did it to a republican leaning circuit? u would flip... he should only do what constitution allows. which is to fill vacancies with senate approval.


9 posted on 11/05/2011 11:47:45 AM PDT by GreaterSwiss
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To: agrarianlady
I think the moral issues are more important. The free market cannot survive public immorality.
10 posted on 11/05/2011 11:48:20 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: NYer
Don't care for him but will go for abolishing the 9th circuit court bunch of anti-Constitutional communists.
11 posted on 11/05/2011 11:55:07 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: NYer

By these statements he shows how little he cares for separation of powers and how desperate he is to attract a little attention before he flames out.


12 posted on 11/05/2011 11:55:26 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: NYer
I support all three of these proposals, but I am afraid the American sheeple will balk on the gay issue - culture ROT.

As for abolishing the 9th Circus I wish every GOP candidate would take this pledge.
13 posted on 11/05/2011 11:55:46 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: NYer

Promises, promises, and good ones too, but fulfilling them will require more than a willing president. What a president can do is shrink the size of government and government interference, and help revive this nation, so we can start reversing bad economics and cultural degeneracy. It is going to take a conservative president working with a conservative Congress to save this country, and it won’t be easy.


14 posted on 11/05/2011 11:57:25 AM PDT by pallis
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To: NYer
Sorry, I find Santorum just a little weird.
15 posted on 11/05/2011 11:57:25 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: NYer

It’s a bit late to win over hard core conservatives with fresh red meat. Smells like pandering. I like Santorum, but I think he should serve well in a cabinet position before running for pres.


16 posted on 11/05/2011 11:59:54 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (It's fun to play with your vision, but don't ever play with your eyes.--1970s PSA)
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To: Cheerio
As for abolishing the 9th Circus I wish every GOP candidate would take this pledge.

Not in the office of president. Setting up and abolishing federal courts is the job of Congress, not the president.

17 posted on 11/05/2011 12:00:30 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: hinckley buzzard
Sorry, I find Santorum just a little weird.

Me too. And more than a little charisma-challenged.

18 posted on 11/05/2011 12:01:48 PM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: hinckley buzzard
These kind of promises tell me Santorum is either desperate or off balance.

I, agree very WEIRD!

19 posted on 11/05/2011 12:02:44 PM PDT by not2worry
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To: NYer

Santorum is a solid guy and a true Conservative. It’s mystifying how too many Republicans take someone elses word that he’s unelectable. If he is the nominee he’ll get my vote. Here in PA our primary is so late we have no say.


20 posted on 11/05/2011 12:05:27 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: bigbob

“By these statements he shows how little he cares for separation of powers and how desperate he is to attract a little attention before he flames out.”

And how poor his judgement is, talking about social issues, when the VOTING public is MOST concerned about the economy.

Hence, the voting public deems him out of touch. Hence his low polls.


21 posted on 11/05/2011 12:05:44 PM PDT by truth_seeker (is)
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To: NYer

Promises...Promises so many promises...

I have not heard everything Cain has said in this campaign but what I have heard never included promises...I have heard him say what he wants to do and how he wants to do it.

To me there is a vast difference between the two men IMHO.

It could be Cain has made some promises but I have not heard them (a flame preventative statement).


22 posted on 11/05/2011 12:21:29 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again for our justification)
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To: Eagles6

I like Santorum. Stuff like this puts him number two on my ballot behind Cain and ahead of Perry and Gingrich and Bachmann.

You never lose with conservativism.


23 posted on 11/05/2011 12:23:12 PM PDT by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: NYer

Reinstating “don’t ask, don’t tell” whould not result in gay soldiers being kicked out simply because they’re gay. I’m not gay, I’m a retired LTCand married to a woman. Gays have a right to serve their country just like I did.

All ask, don’t tell did was require gays to keep their private life to themselves—same as heterosexuals. In fact ask, don’t tell enabled gay soldiers to serve without prejudice. The only caveat being they refrain from pushing their sexual preference in people’s faces.

In fact, most gays who serve, do so honorably. They are also God’s children and should be treated as such.

And, yes, I support reinstating don’t ask, don’tell.


24 posted on 11/05/2011 12:26:06 PM PDT by dools0007world
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To: NYer

Easy to take positions when you know that you’ll never have to defend them or vote for them.


25 posted on 11/05/2011 12:38:48 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: NYer

Talk is cheap Rick. You lost my support a LONG, LONG time ago.


26 posted on 11/05/2011 12:50:02 PM PDT by CSI007
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To: NYer
abolish the 9th circuit

Oh Rick, this is just sad.

27 posted on 11/05/2011 12:52:22 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Jonty30

You know, I have to wonder why, exactly, the GOP keeps pushing abortion when they haven’t done anything about abolishing it like they say they will.

I mean, if ever there was a time to do it, it would have been when they had a supermajority in Congress, W. in the White House, and a pretty conservative SCOTUS.

I mean, if I didn’t know any better, I’d start thinking that maybe they *want* to keep abortion legal simply because it gives them a ready-made issue to back with a bloc of voters who aren’t going to change their minds on it.

As for Santorum, pushing a social agenda is career suicide in this economy. People don’t have time to worry about gays in the military when they’re busy trying not to lose their houses.


28 posted on 11/05/2011 12:52:59 PM PDT by OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings
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To: OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings

Most people are quite able to be concerned about more than one thing at a time!


29 posted on 11/05/2011 1:01:11 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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30 posted on 11/05/2011 1:14:53 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: BenKenobi

Yep. No skeletons in his closet either.


31 posted on 11/05/2011 1:15:22 PM PDT by Eagles6
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32 posted on 11/05/2011 1:37:07 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Repeal The 17th
Which of these does the executive branch have the power to do?

Well, it seems that executive branch power has been expanded of late, hasn't it? Might as well take advantage of the precedent.

33 posted on 11/05/2011 1:41:59 PM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: Eagles6

Separation of powers Mr Santorum. Great goals, however if one is to restore America, rule of law must apply. You sir are just as wrong as Osluma. We need no elected King in America, no matter how much I like your goals.

However I have listened to the other 8 canidates, with the exception of Ron Paul make some of the same statements. So Mr Santorium is not alone.


34 posted on 11/05/2011 1:43:21 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (John McCain is a proud Ted Kennedy conservative!)
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To: NYer

If Santorum does not get elected President, I nominate him for HHS Secretary.


35 posted on 11/05/2011 1:43:43 PM PDT by eCSMaster (Democrats: the Party of NO!)
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To: Repeal The 17th
The Commander-in-Chief has the broad power to handle the military in this way.

The recent, unprecedented advances against abortion have been stymied by this "president" and his dept of jus' dis. Think what advances could be made if a real president let our Republican form of government actually work?

The 9th is a joke. I'm sure the president could exert sufficient pressure to abolish it through the Legislature.

36 posted on 11/05/2011 1:45:33 PM PDT by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: OnlyTurkeysHaveLeftWings

If a politician solves every problem, they don’t have a reason to run for office. That is why, as much as they might accomplish in office, they always leave at least one problem unsolved on a perpetual basis.

However, on the issue of abortion, I think the pro-life side is expecting too much, too soon and that is why they keep either losing or making only the smallest gains, only to lose them again.

Based on the comments I see repeatedly here, the more conservative side wants everything accomplished and everything accomplished now, while our liberal compatriots will take whatever small victories they can, however they can get it, by whomever they can get it done through.

Guess which side has been winning.


37 posted on 11/05/2011 1:49:55 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: NYer

Santorum is the sleeper candidate. I believe he may be the nominee.


38 posted on 11/05/2011 1:58:07 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

Why is he still running? Doesent the increase in overhead expense to campaign more than overwhelm the increase in speaking fees he will generate down the road ? Has he done the math?


39 posted on 11/05/2011 1:58:17 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: NYer
You guys can rip into me if you'd like,but there are certain cases in which abortion could be acceptable. If the child will be severely mentally retarded that they will not be able to live a decent life,then it would be more humane than allowing the child to live a miserable life. Another example is if the mother's life is in danger. This is the Jewish view,although there may be some others who'd agree. I'm not advocating abortion when a woman's a slut as a form of birth control.
40 posted on 11/05/2011 2:13:07 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
You guys can rip into me if you'd like,but there are certain cases in which abortion could be acceptable. If the child will be severely mentally retarded that they will not be able to live a decent life,then it would be more humane than allowing the child to live a miserable life.

No one is going to rip into you. You are expressing personal opinions that do not fit the Judeo-Christian argument for life. Who is to define 'severely retarded' and the standard that should be applied? I have read countless testimonies of such instances over the years. Based on pre-natal tests, parents were told their child would be born a vegetable only to learn afterwards that something went wrong in the testing. How many perfectly normal children have been aborted because of such a mistake?

Then there are the cases of children discovered to have physical abnormalities while still in the womb. Immediately, I think of Samuel Alexander Armas.

Take a good look at this picture. It's one of the most remarkable photographs ever taken. The tiny hand of a fetus reaches out from a mother's womb to clasp a surgeon's healing finger. It is, by the way, 21 weeks old, an age at which it could still be legally aborted. While undergoing spina bifida surgery in utero, 21-week-old fetus Samuel Armas grips the finger of Dr. Joseph Bruner through the incision.At that age the mother could have chosen to have the foetus aborted. Her decision not to, however, led to an astonishing test not just of medical technology, but of faith. Who are we to question why God sends such children into this world?

Another example is if the mother's life is in danger.

This is one of those "broad" excuses that doctors have used since ad finitum to justify abortion. High blood pressure is an example of a 'life threatening' situation. It's treatable.

Last year, I posted the story of an abortion that took place in Italy. The young woman decided to abort her child because it had a cleft palate, a condition easily resolved through surgery. She falls into the category of a woman who was psychologically challenged to give birth to such a child.

I don't know if you are a person who practices your faith on a daily basis but I would encourage you to take a deeper look at scripture and the truths contained therein.

41 posted on 11/05/2011 2:40:21 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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Well,in Judaism it is stated that abortion is acceptable when the mother's life is in danger,but remember,Judaism is all about life. We are G-d’s partners in Tikkun Olam,or repairing the world. I know it's a little off topic but it does have some relevance. Saving one life is equivalent to saving the entire world is also a very important tenet of Judaism,so it's not as though we advocate the idea of abortion.
42 posted on 11/05/2011 2:56:42 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Straight and proud.)
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To: Salvation

Santorum is not going to be the nominee.

For Santorum to be one, Cain and and Romney would have to take about an equal amount of votes, but not enough for Santorum to come up the middle.

That is not going to happen.


43 posted on 11/05/2011 3:03:36 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

You are not allowed to decide who lives and who dies.
You are not G_D.


44 posted on 11/05/2011 3:06:46 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

That is all quite interesting and thank you for sharing the faith perspective but you did not answer any of my questions.


45 posted on 11/05/2011 3:10:24 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

“The expression tikkun olam is used in the Mishnah to indicate that a practice should be followed not because it is required by Biblical law, but because it helps avoid social chaos.”
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Does this say your pro abortion stance is non-biblical social engineering?
Or am I misreading it?


46 posted on 11/05/2011 3:35:24 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: Repeal The 17th
“...ban abortion, discharge gay soldiers, and abolish the 9th circuit...” -

Which of these does the executive branch have the power to do?

Precisely. This is a "Hail Mary" if there ever was one.

One of the reasons I dropped Bachmann was her signing of one of those silly pledges that, among other things, promised to ban pornography. I couldn't help but wonder about her concept of the presidency that she thought she could just overrule the 1st Amendment.

And, if she really does understand the Constitution, then she signed the thing solely to pander. Either way, that was it for me. And Santorum's become a joke, too.

47 posted on 11/05/2011 3:45:43 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: NYer

I think that Rick Santorum is refreshing.

Many people complain about RINO’s, moderates, Country Club Republicans, free shrimpers, or whatever you want to call them. But many of the same people who are critical of the more liberal elements within the Party are also highly critical of Santorum when he runs as a conservative. Sigh...

One criticism many lay at Santorum’s feet is that he lost his Senate election by 18 points. One of the reasons that happened (not the only reason, granted, but one of the big ones) is that he ran as a conservative in a non-conservative election cycle. A lot of politicians were running to the middle to get re-elected. Sure, he had an issue or two that can be pointed to that were not as conservative; but primarily he ran to the right of George Bush during an election in which the general populace thought that George Bush was too conservative. He did it even though he knew that it could cost him his Senate seat. That’s refreshing to me.

You might not like Rick Santorum, but he has the courage of his convictions. We need more like him, in good times and in bad.


48 posted on 11/05/2011 3:48:05 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

**You might not like Rick Santorum, but he has the courage of his convictions. We need more like him, in good times and in bad.**

BTTT — I really won’t be surprised if all the other candidates drop out and leave Santorum standing.


49 posted on 11/05/2011 3:59:37 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Why doesn't any other R address the moral/social issues as clearly as Santorum? Chicken or don't care?

50 posted on 11/05/2011 4:13:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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